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Steve Clement | 3 May 2003 10:56
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Jornada720 Kernel build failure...

steve <at> jornabsd:/sys/arch/hpcarm/conf$ config JORNADA720
../../../../dev/ata/files.ata:17: syntax error
../../../../dev/ata/files.ata:21: undefined attribute `ataraid'
../../../../arch/hpcarm/conf/files.hpcarm: device `ataraid' used but not 
defined
*** Stop.

While configging a news Kernel for my Jornada.

The only thing I changed is that I am using cvsup now to keep pkgsrc and 
src up to date, here's my cvsupfile:

-su-2.05b# cat /etc/cvsupfile-netbsd
*default  host=cvsup.de.netbsd.org
*default  base=/jornada/usr
*default  prefix=/jornada/usr
*default  release=cvs
*default  tag=none
*default  delete use-rel-suffix

*default tag=.
netbsd

Guess I need to checkout !-current

what would my tag then be? how can I find out the tag?

Also -current autobuilds fail on hpcarm so no wonder :)

cheers Steve
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Robert Swindells | 3 May 2003 12:56
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Re: Jornada720 Kernel build failure...


Steve Clement wrote:
>steve <at> jornabsd:/sys/arch/hpcarm/conf$ config JORNADA720
>../../../../dev/ata/files.ata:17: syntax error
>../../../../dev/ata/files.ata:21: undefined attribute `ataraid'
>../../../../arch/hpcarm/conf/files.hpcarm: device `ataraid' used but not 
>defined
>*** Stop.

You need to use a newer version of /usr/sbin/config.

>Also -current autobuilds fail on hpcarm so no wonder :)

The autobuild wasn't failing at this point.

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Steve Clement | 6 May 2003 13:45
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Re: Jornada720 Kernel build failure...


Robert Swindells wrote:
| Steve Clement wrote:
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|>steve <at> jornabsd:/sys/arch/hpcarm/conf$ config JORNADA720
|>../../../../dev/ata/files.ata:17: syntax error
|>../../../../dev/ata/files.ata:21: undefined attribute `ataraid'
|>../../../../arch/hpcarm/conf/files.hpcarm: device `ataraid' used but not
|>defined
|>*** Stop.
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| You need to use a newer version of /usr/sbin/config.
|

Yers indeed :)

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|>Also -current autobuilds fail on hpcarm so no wonder :)
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| The autobuild wasn't failing at this point.
|

True, I guess I need to pay more attention...

Steve.C

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Klaus Heinz | 16 May 2003 01:46
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HP Jornada 720 or 728?

Hi,

I'm looking for opinions about HP Jornada 720 vs 728. As far as I know
the main (single?) difference is the amount of possible RAM (32MB vs
64MB). The primary purpose of this machine would be e-mail and writing
(ASCII-)text. Does someone really use X on this kind of machine? GUI
mail clients? Anyone tried to run a web browser?
I suppose that's where the second 32MB would be really helpful, even
crucial if you don't have swap because of the storage medium (CF card).

By looking through the archives I found someone mentioning a problem
with NetBSD and memory above 32 MB on the Jornada 728; is this really
solved?

What else do people do with their HPCs?

ciao
     Klaus
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Mattias Sandstrom | 16 May 2003 11:10
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Re: HP Jornada 720 or 728?

Klaus Heinz wrote:
> Does someone really use X on this kind of machine? GUI
> mail clients? Anyone tried to run a web browser?
> I suppose that's where the second 32MB would be really helpful

i don't have one of those, but i regularly run x, abiword, the sylpheed 
email client and the dillo web browser on 32 meg machines (m68k and 
i386) without swap. as long as you only start one or two of these 
programs you're fine, and there's even memory left for a couple of 
rxvt's at the same time... :-)

(yeah, 64 megs would be nice too, you're right)

	/matt
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Michael W . Lucas | 16 May 2003 13:49

Re: HP Jornada 720 or 728?

On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 11:10:21AM +0200, Mattias Sandstrom wrote:
> Klaus Heinz wrote:
> > Does someone really use X on this kind of machine? GUI
> > mail clients? Anyone tried to run a web browser?
> > I suppose that's where the second 32MB would be really helpful
> 
> i don't have one of those, but i regularly run x, abiword, the sylpheed 
> email client and the dillo web browser on 32 meg machines (m68k and 
> i386) without swap. as long as you only start one or two of these 
> programs you're fine, and there's even memory left for a couple of 
> rxvt's at the same time... :-)
> 
> (yeah, 64 megs would be nice too, you're right)
> 
> 	/matt

If you check the archives, I posted a patch to get 64MB working.

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Miles Nordin | 16 May 2003 16:03

Re: HP Jornada 720 or 728?

>>>>> "kh" == Klaus Heinz <k.heinz.mai.drei <at> onlinehome.de> writes:

    kh> Does someone really use X on this kind of machine?

absolutely.  I had a MobilePro 800, an 800x600 screen, but I suspect
I'd want it on smaller screens too.  wscons scrolling is much slower
than X and an xterm.  You can have more than one xterm, while multiple
wscons screens historically doesn't work with all NetBSD revisions
except on i386.  Also with X you can have a virtual desktop with olvwm
or similar to help with the small screen.  Finally, there's emacs,
which is best with X because of i18n.

    kh> GUI mail clients? Anyone tried to run a web browser?

no.

My Linux-using friend says Opera is faster than links.  But it's
proprietary and there is no NetBSD package except for i386 and sparc.

    kh> 32MB would be really helpful, even crucial if you don't have
    kh> swap

yeah!

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Mattias Sandstrom | 17 May 2003 12:23
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Re: HP Jornada 720 or 728?

Miles Nordin wrote:
> My Linux-using friend says Opera is faster than links.  But it's
> proprietary and there is no NetBSD package except for i386 and sparc.

sorry if this is off topic, but dillo is even faster than opera and 
doesn't use more than a meg or so of ram while running. and it's free 
software. and the next release will include frames and https support 
which are the only things that are really missing right now...

	/matt
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