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Rowdy | 1 Jan 2006 01:42
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Re: kernels on the restore CD

Rowdy wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> While trying to create a restore CD for 3.0, I have started poking 
> around in the install scripts, and found an oddity.
> 
> The script I am looking at is
> /nfsroot/install/scripts/install-core.sh. There is a function therein
> install_boot() that looks like this:
> 
<snip>
> 
> It mounts /dev/wd0e, copies from the restore CD boot.gz (this is the
> one from Dennis' original restore CD), netbsd.gz (from the version of
> NetBSD being installed, in my case 3.0) and netbsd-GENERIC.gz (also
> from 3.0).
> 
> Then it iterates thru the $RAQ_KERNELS list (vmlinux.gz 
> vmlinux-nfsroot.gz vmlinux_RAQ.gz vmlinux_raq-2800.gz) and links each
>  one to boot.gz.
> 
> In the instructions.txt file, it notes that if the installation
> fails, you should manually boot, manually mount /dev/wd0e, and link
> each of the alternative names to netbsd.gz.
> 
> Which is correct?
> 
> After restoring from Dennis' restore CD, it seems that all kernels
> are linked to boot.gz, and the Qube boots.  After restoring from my
> 3.0 restore CD, all the files are still linked to boot.gz (as per the
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Rowdy | 1 Jan 2006 06:26
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NetBSD 3.0 cobalt restore CD - success!

Greetings and happy new year,

After a few false starts, help from the newsgroup, and a lot of reading,
I have succeeded in creating a NetBSD 3.0 cobalt restore CD that has
been used to successfully install NetBSD 3.0 onto a Qube 2.

Claudio has kindly offered to host the ISO, but I have a couple of final
questions.

Is there any point in including the X sets (xbase, xcomp, xetc, xfont
and xserver) in the restore CD?  The Qube has no attached monitor, and I
would not imagine it would be used to run X, however someone, somewhere
might want to.  Removing the files it would reduce the ISO size from
around 200M to around 150M.

Currently games are not installed, but games.tgz is included in the sets
directory.  Should games be included in the installed packages, or left
to the individual user?

I have used netbsd-GENERIC.gz (entire boot log below, in case anyone can
find anything anomalous).  I also compiled a new boot.gz bootloader from
the 3.0 sources.

I have patched a couple of files, as follows:

/nfsroot/install/scripts/install-core.sh:

1. copy netbsd-INSTALL.gz into wd0e:/boot (as a sort of emergency
recovery kernel)
2. copy INSTALL and GENERIC (conf files) into wd0e:/boot (for reference,
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Brian McEwen | 1 Jan 2006 14:52
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Re: NetBSD 3.0 cobalt restore CD - success!


On Jan 1, 2006, at 12:26 AM, Rowdy wrote:

>
> I have used netbsd-GENERIC.gz (entire boot log below, in case  
> anyone can
> find anything anomalous).  I also compiled a new boot.gz bootloader  
> from
> the 3.0 sources.

Izumi? I think it was, had some patches needed to make USB cards work  
properly; they are referred to here:
<http://www.aironaut.ch/content/blogcategory/69/61/>

I looked a little on the list archive but did not find them.

Does someone know   where these posts are, and if the patches were  
rolled into 3.0 release or -current?

-Brian
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Rowdy | 2 Jan 2006 02:52
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NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

Greetings,

On the restore CD is a file /root/instructions.txt containing a lot of
information.  Once the restore CD is booted, this file is shown to the
user via 'less'.

I have expanded on it slightly, including a few snippets of information
I found useful.

The full proposed text appears below, for comments or suggestions.  The 
text might get wrapped by various email clients, the text does appear 
coherent, and the longest line is the first line of '====' at 79 characters.

Specifically:

1. Is the 'NetBSD Foundation' reference at the top correct/permissable?

2. Do either Dennis or Alex object to being included in the credits :) ?

3. Any other comments or suggestions.

Thanx

Rowdy

===============================================================================
The NetBSD Foundation, Inc.
NetBSD/cobalt Installation CD [3.0 Release]
===============================================================================
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Daniel Ouellet | 2 Jan 2006 04:46

Re: NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

Rowdy wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> On the restore CD is a file /root/instructions.txt containing a lot of
> information.  Once the restore CD is booted, this file is shown to the
> user via 'less'.
> 
> I have expanded on it slightly, including a few snippets of information
> I found useful.
> 

Looks good. You may want to add a bit more step by step as for many 
users, the first time they do it, it's not always obvious what should be 
done, or even how to do it.

More step by step here if you like:

http://netbsd.ouellet.biz/iso/install.html

It's also in the archive in November or December 2004 I think, may be 
2003, I can't recall exactly.

Just a thought.

Daniel
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Hubert Feyrer | 2 Jan 2006 05:52
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Re: NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Rowdy wrote:
> 1. Is the 'NetBSD Foundation' reference at the top correct/permissable?
...
> ===============================================================================
> The NetBSD Foundation, Inc.
> NetBSD/cobalt Installation CD [3.0 Release]
> ===============================================================================

I understand the 3.0 restore CD is based on an earlier CD.
While I don't know who made the earlier CD, to answer your question above:
who made the 3.0 CD (sorry, I haven't followed all the discussion here, 
and in particular missed the posting that says where the 3.0 CD can be 
downloaded from), and from what place is it available?

I'd say if someone with a  <at> NetBSD.org mail address made it (i.e. by 
someone who is a member of TNF) and maybe it is on ftp.NetBSD.org, 
claiming that it's from TNF is ok. Else, I recommend not using TNFs name 
but the creator's name.

  - Hubert
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Rowdy | 2 Jan 2006 10:23
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Re: NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> Looks good. You may want to add a bit more step by step as for many 
> users, the first time they do it, it's not always obvious what should
> be done, or even how to do it.
> 
> More step by step here if you like:
> 
> http://netbsd.ouellet.biz/iso/install.html
> 
> It's also in the archive in November or December 2004 I think, may be
>  2003, I can't recall exactly.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Daniel
> 

My thinking was that someone would find an interest in installing NetBSD
3.0 onto a Qube (or Raq), do a little research to discover the restore
CD methodology, then download the latest restore CD and go from there.

My current notion is to create a simple readme that explains the basic
steps and probably lists a bunch of web pages (including the page you
have identified) explaining installation in more detail, and tar that
along with the ISO and a md5, then gzip the tarball for distribution.

Thankyou for your input :)

Rowdy
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Rowdy | 2 Jan 2006 10:25
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Re: NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

Hubert Feyrer wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Rowdy wrote:
> 
>> 1. Is the 'NetBSD Foundation' reference at the top 
>> correct/permissable?
> 
> ...
> 
>> ===============================================================================
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The NetBSD Foundation, Inc. NetBSD/cobalt Installation CD [3.0 
>> Release] 
>> ===============================================================================
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> I understand the 3.0 restore CD is based on an earlier CD.

Yes, based on the 1.6 (or was it 1.6.1?) NetBSD/cobalt restore CD.

> While I don't know who made the earlier CD, to answer your question 
> above:

Dennis Chernoivanov.

> who made the 3.0 CD (sorry, I haven't followed all the discussion
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Hubert Feyrer | 2 Jan 2006 10:30
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Re: NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Rowdy wrote:
> I am not associated with TNF, so my thought was to remove it, unless
> anyone argued to keep that bit of the header there.

That's probably best.

You can (and probably should) still express gratitude towards Dennis 
Chernoivanov - maybe talk to him about the latest CD and your work on it?
He can be reached as cdi <at> NetBSD.org these days. ;)

  - Hubert
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Rowdy | 2 Jan 2006 10:39
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Re: NetBSD 3.0 restore CD - instructions.txt

Hubert Feyrer wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Rowdy wrote:
> 
>> I am not associated with TNF, so my thought was to remove it, unless
>> anyone argued to keep that bit of the header there.
> 
> 
> That's probably best.
> 
> You can (and probably should) still express gratitude towards Dennis 
> Chernoivanov - maybe talk to him about the latest CD and your work on it?
> He can be reached as cdi <at> NetBSD.org these days. ;)
> 
> 
>  - Hubert
> 

I have already included Dennis in the credits in instructions.txt :)

Thankyou for his updated contact information.  I suspect he still 
monitors the newsgroup, but if not I had planned on sending him an email 
to let him know about the 3.0 restore CD.

Rowdy
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