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John Klos | 9 Mar 2010 05:57

Can't get Alpha to boot...

Hi,

I'm trying to get an AlphaStation 4000 set up with NetBSD. I'm using a 
NetBSD 5.0.2 CD, which works fine, but regardless of whether I let the 
installer do the installing or I newfs and untargzip then installboot 
myself, it won't boot. Am I missing something?

Here are the SRM settings:

>>>boot dka0
(boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags a)
failed to open dka0.0.0.6.0
>>>show
auto_action             BOOT
boot_dev                dka0.0.0.6.0
boot_file
boot_osflags            a
boot_reset              OFF
bootdef_dev             dka0.0.0.6.0
booted_dev              dka400.4.0.6.0
booted_file
booted_osflags          a
bus_probe_algorithm     old
char_set                0
console                 graphics
control_disfd           enable
control_idema           enable
control_irq11           scsi
control_irq12           mouse
control_scsi_term       internal
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Gianluca Bonetti | 9 Mar 2010 11:13
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Re: Can't get Alpha to boot...

2010/3/9 John Klos <john <at> ziaspace.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get an AlphaStation 4000 set up with NetBSD. I'm using a
> NetBSD 5.0.2 CD, which works fine, but regardless of whether I let the
> installer do the installing or I newfs and untargzip then installboot
> myself, it won't boot. Am I missing something?
>
> Here are the SRM settings:
>
>>>> boot dka0
>
> (boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags a)
> failed to open dka0.0.0.6.0

Hello John

I think that you have a bootloader problem.
Is the bootloader installed properly?

Also, boot as:
>>> BOOT DKA0 -FLAGS 0

Or
>>> SET BOOT_OSFLAGS 0
>>> BOOT DKA0

Try this and let me know.

Bye
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John Klos | 9 Mar 2010 08:46

Re: Can't get Alpha to boot...

I should've included:

>>>show dev
dka0.0.0.6.0               DKA0                    ST316002 3A  8.01
dka400.4.0.6.0             DKA400                        RRD43  1084
dva0.0.0.0.1               DVA0
pka0.7.0.6.0               PKA0                  SCSI Bus ID 7

The CD ROM boots fine; it's the hard drive which won't boot.
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Tobias Nygren | 10 Mar 2010 10:19
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Re: Can't get Alpha to boot...

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:57:26 +0000 (UTC)
John Klos <john <at> ziaspace.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get an AlphaStation 4000 set up with NetBSD. I'm using a 
> NetBSD 5.0.2 CD, which works fine, but regardless of whether I let the 
> installer do the installing or I newfs and untargzip then installboot 
> myself, it won't boot. Am I missing something?
> 
> Here are the SRM settings:
> 
> >>>boot dka0
> (boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags a)
> failed to open dka0.0.0.6.0

In order to rule out other problems, you can try to write the
alpha/installation/diskimage/cdhdtape file directly to the disk with dd
and attempt to boot from it.
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John Klos | 20 Mar 2010 08:22

Re: Can't get Alpha to boot...

Hi, all,

Thanks for all of the suggestions so far. A few people have suggested that 
the SRM might be too old to be happy with a large SCSI volume. However, 
updating presents a problem.

The bootable CDs work, but don't have updated SRM for my model 
(AlphaStation 400). I can't MOP boot a firmware updater because I don't 
have an ethernet card which is recognized by the SRM. I tried making a 
bootable floppy, but could only make it using PC-DOS because I have 
neither VMS nor Ultrix.

So does anyone know how to update the SRM without ethernet, without 
Ultrix, and without VMS?

Thanks,
John Klos
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John Klos | 25 Mar 2010 01:03

Alpha firmware update (was Can't get Alpha to boot...)

Hi,

I finally got my SRM firmware updated. I thought (there I go again - I 
should always know that thinking causes trouble) that firmware update CDs 
which had a lower version number than the firmware I already have would 
also have lower version numbered firmware. Oops.

I found a version 5.7 firmware ISO and it upgraded my SRM to version 72.1:

AlphaStation 400 4/233
Console V7.2-1 Mar  6 2000 14:46:15

The version 5.7 ISO is here:

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/alphaserver/firmware/iso_images/v57.iso

Thanks, everyone!

John Klos
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John Klos | 26 Mar 2010 00:10

Alpha boot magic questions

Hi,

After updating my firmware, I still can't get my Alpha to boot from the 
hard disk. I tried doing a complete install from a 5.0.2 CD and tried 
running installboot manually:

# installboot -v /dev/rsd0c bootxx_ffs
File system:         /dev/rsd0c
Primary bootstrap:   bootxx_ffs
Bootstrap start sector:  1
Bootstrap sector count:  13
New boot block checksum: 0xa3dbcfeefd5d168e
Writing bootstrap
Writing boot block

Why does partition "a" start at sector 0 if the bootstrap code takes 13 
sectors? Just curious.

No matter what I try, I always get:

failed to open dka0.0.0.6.0

If I try to use the bootloader on the CD to boot the kernel off the SCSI 
disk, I get:

Boot file: dka0:netbsd
Boot flags: a
open dka0:netbsd: No such file or directory

Boot failed!  Halting...
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..I'd rather be coding ASM! | 26 Mar 2010 05:16
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Re: Alpha boot magic questions


Can VMS or Tru64 boot off the drive? I suspect that would answer the "is 
it the scsi converter, or is it the BSD bootloader that is committing the 
crimes question.

Regards,
Al

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  adb -w -P "world> " -k /dev/meta/galaxy/ksyms /dev/god/brain

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, John Klos wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After updating my firmware, I still can't get my Alpha to boot from the hard 
> disk. I tried doing a complete install from a 5.0.2 CD and tried running 
> installboot manually:
>
> # installboot -v /dev/rsd0c bootxx_ffs
> File system:         /dev/rsd0c
> Primary bootstrap:   bootxx_ffs
> Bootstrap start sector:  1
> Bootstrap sector count:  13
> New boot block checksum: 0xa3dbcfeefd5d168e
> Writing bootstrap
> Writing boot block
>
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John Klos | 26 Mar 2010 07:22

Re: Alpha boot magic questions

Hi,

> Can VMS or Tru64 boot off the drive? I suspect that would answer the "is it 
> the scsi converter, or is it the BSD bootloader that is committing the crimes 
> question.

Thanks, Al. I was actually going to try exactly that after I try a regular 
SCSI drive. Good idea - we'll see how it goes.

John
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Gianluca Bonetti | 26 Mar 2010 09:22
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Re: Alpha boot magic questions

Hello John

2010/3/26 John Klos <john <at> ziaspace.com>:
> failed to open dka0.0.0.6.0

Sorry to say, but it really seems that dka0.0.0.6.0 is now in good health.
Could you please send again a "SHO DEV" listing?

> If I try to use the bootloader on the CD to boot the kernel off the SCSI
> disk, I get:
>
> Boot file: dka0:netbsd
> Boot flags: a
> open dka0:netbsd: No such file or directory
>
> Boot failed!  Halting...
>
> Maybe dka0:netbsd isn't the correct syntax.

I think that when you boot from SRM by "BOOT DKA0", the bootloader
already knows what the boot disk is, so you should simply digit
"netbsd"

> I even tried a different SCSI-IDE adapter, but no go. I suppose my next test
> will be to see if a real SCSI drive works...

Yes, could be a broken controller or faulty cable.
And, of course, check SCSI bus termination.

Ciao!
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