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Havard Eidnes | 4 Nov 2007 18:20
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Package binaries for NetBSD/alpha 4.0_BETA2 / pkgsrc-2007Q3

Hi,

I've uploaded the new files in the results of a bulk rebuild for
NetBSD/alpha 4.0 to

   ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/alpha/4.0_2007Q3/

A total of 5.8GB of packages were uploaded, as this was the first
upload for the pkgsrc-2007Q3 branch.

The source tree this was built from was updated Oct 12 2007.

Regards,

- Håvard
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Emil Skoeldberg | 6 Nov 2007 17:24
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Re: Replace AS200 power supply with ATX?

Miles, der Mouse, Anders,

Thanks for clearing this out for me. I still have not got it to work
though - the PSU does not power up when I try to switch it on. I have
checked the connections, (after getting a multimeter), so my suspicion
is that it could have something to do with the PS_ON and/or PWR_OK
connectors. Does anybody know if they do - and how to wire them in
that case?

Cheers,

Emil

On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:00:39PM +0100, Anders Hogrelius wrote:
> 
> Yes, you're quite right. The positive supply to the CMOS or NMOS circuits 
> is called VDD and the negative or ground VSS or GND. According to 
> "Application-Specific Integrated Circuits" by by Addison Wesley Longman, 
> Inc it should be VDD and VSS in upper case letters rather than Vdd or Vss.
> 
> As the CMOS circuits normally use a +5V supply I'm pretty sure that the 
> connectors marked VDD should be connected to the +5V wires from the ATX 
> PSU.
> 
> Cheers,
> Anders
> 
> ****************************************************
> Anders Hogrelius, MSc
> Senior Exploration Geologist
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der Mouse | 6 Nov 2007 18:05
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Re: Replace AS200 power supply with ATX?

> Thanks for clearing this out for me. I still have not got it to work
> though - the PSU does not power up when I try to switch it on.  I
> have checked the connections, (after getting a multimeter), so my
> suspicion is that it could have something to do with the PS_ON and/or
> PWR_OK connectors.

Have you verified that the PSU powers up OK on its own?  ATX supplies
are, in my experience at least, generally willing to power up with zero
load; just ground the "please power on" line.  (This, again in my
experience, is a green wire going to the 2x10 connector, in the middle
of a bunch of grounds (black) on one side.  It is a lighter (thinner)
wire than most of the wires to that connector.)  Conveniently, there
are a bunch of grounds right next to it, so just a piece of wire bent
to fit between two adjacent pins should do the trick.  Always has for
me, at any rate. :)

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Anders Hogrelius | 6 Nov 2007 17:49
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Re: Replace AS200 power supply with ATX?


Yes, I would agree that it has something to do with those signals. 
PS_ON Should be low (grounded) to power up the PSU. PWR_OK is asserted 
high (+5V) when all +12 VDC, +5 VDC, and +3.3 VDC voltages are within the 
specs.

Since the AS200 MoBo seems to miss the PWR_OK input you will probably be 
able leave that signal unconnected. Have you checked if the PWR_OK 
signal is present in a second connector on the AS200 PSU? The PS_ON signal 
should be connected to GND or to a On/Off switch that ties it to GND when 
the switch is set to "On".

Cheers,
Anders

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Emil Skoeldberg wrote:

> Miles, der Mouse, Anders,
>
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Skoldberg, Emil | 6 Nov 2007 22:05
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RE: Replace AS200 power supply with ATX?


>> Thanks for clearing this out for me. I still have not got it to work
>> though - the PSU does not power up when I try to switch it on.  I
>> have checked the connections, (after getting a multimeter), so my
>> suspicion is that it could have something to do with the PS_ON and/or
>> PWR_OK connectors.

>Have you verified that the PSU powers up OK on its own?  ATX supplies
>are, in my experience at least, generally willing to power up with zero
>load; just ground the "please power on" line.  (This, again in my
>experience, is a green wire going to the 2x10 connector, in the middle
>of a bunch of grounds (black) on one side.  It is a lighter (thinner)
>wire than most of the wires to that connector.)  Conveniently, there
>are a bunch of grounds right next to it, so just a piece of wire bent
>to fit between two adjacent pins should do the trick.  Always has for
>me, at any rate. :)

Yes, I just now checked this: the PSU does indeed power up when PS_ON

is grounded,  I'll see what happens when I try to connect to the motherboard

with the grounding in place.

/Emil
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Skoldberg, Emil | 6 Nov 2007 22:09
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RE: Replace AS200 power supply with ATX?


>>Have you verified that the PSU powers up OK on its own?  ATX supplies
>>are, in my experience at least, generally willing to power up with zero
>>load; just ground the "please power on" line.  (This, again in my
>>experience, is a green wire going to the 2x10 connector, in the middle
>>of a bunch of grounds (black) on one side.  It is a lighter (thinner)
>>wire than most of the wires to that connector.)  Conveniently, there
>>are a bunch of grounds right next to it, so just a piece of wire bent
>>to fit between two adjacent pins should do the trick.  Always has for
>>me, at any rate. :)

>Yes, I just now checked this: the PSU does indeed power up when PS_ON
>is grounded,  I'll see what happens when I try to connect to the motherboard
>with the grounding in place.

What happens when trying to power up the computer with the above grounding
is that the PSU powers on and the speaker beeps the pattern 3 + 2 + 3; 
however I do not get any output on serial port or display. Hm.

/Emil
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Emil Skoeldberg | 7 Nov 2007 18:02
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Re: Replace AS200 power supply with ATX?

On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:09:17PM -0000, Skoldberg, Emil wrote:
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> >>Have you verified that the PSU powers up OK on its own?  ATX supplies
> >>are, in my experience at least, generally willing to power up with zero
> >>load; just ground the "please power on" line.  (This, again in my
> >>experience, is a green wire going to the 2x10 connector, in the middle
> >>of a bunch of grounds (black) on one side.  It is a lighter (thinner)
> >>wire than most of the wires to that connector.)  Conveniently, there
> >>are a bunch of grounds right next to it, so just a piece of wire bent
> >>to fit between two adjacent pins should do the trick.  Always has for
> >>me, at any rate. :)
> 
> >Yes, I just now checked this: the PSU does indeed power up when PS_ON
> >is grounded,  I'll see what happens when I try to connect to the motherboard
> >with the grounding in place.
> 
> What happens when trying to power up the computer with the above grounding
> is that the PSU powers on and the speaker beeps the pattern 3 + 2 + 3; 
> however I do not get any output on serial port or display. Hm.

And now when rtfm'ing I see that on page 4-9 in the "Digital AlphaStation
200 Series User information" we have a table of Error Beep codes! Will 
poke around a bit more when I get home.

Emil
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Jaap Boender | 7 Nov 2007 22:53

Machine check 660

Hello list,

Just a quick question: my Alphaserver has been giving "unexpected
machine checks" with vector 660, which, if I read the available
information correctly, indicates unrecoverable memory errors. Is there
any way to find out where exactly the memory errors occur, so that I can
replace that bank?

Thanks in advance,

  Jaap Boender
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mel kravitz | 23 Nov 2007 23:53

X no longer starts with kernel 4.99.37

I have noticed that recent kernels used with userland from a few months 
ago break many
important functions such as ifconfig, netstat and dhclient to name a 
few. However todays
new kernel 4.99.37 used with 4.99.33 userland renders X (xinit) useless?
xinit -> xf86MapVidMem : could not mmap framebuffer-why?
This is on alpha arch 164LX if it matters.
Mel
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Martin Husemann | 24 Nov 2007 01:41
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Re: X no longer starts with kernel 4.99.37

On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 05:53:51PM -0500, mel kravitz wrote:
> I have noticed that recent kernels used with userland from a few months 
> ago break many
> important functions such as ifconfig, netstat and dhclient to name a 
> few.

This sounds a bit more general than the lossage that happened - there were
small periods of current where compatibility was broken vs. previous and
future versions of -current - AFAIK.

> However todays
> new kernel 4.99.37 used with 4.99.33 userland renders X (xinit) useless?
> xinit -> xf86MapVidMem : could not mmap framebuffer-why?

Sorry, no idea.

Martin
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