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Uwe Lienig | 3 Jul 2006 15:34
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Running java (kaffe) dumps core

Hello NetBSD-alpha friends,

this is a plain install of NetBSD/alpha, v2.1

NetBSD muxs1et0.fif.mw.htw-dresden.de 2.1 NetBSD 2.1 (GENERIC) #0: Mon Oct 24\
19:17:35 UTC 2005 jmc <at> faith.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-2-1-RELEASE\
/alpha/200510241747Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-2-1-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/\
alpha/compile/GENERIC alpha

I installed kaffe from pkgsrc by compiling the source.

I have the following problem

kaffe dumps core with a very simple Hello world. The source is 5 lines

public class Hallo {
     public static void main(String[] args) {
         System.out.println("Hallo Welt!");
     }
}

I'm running bash:
GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (alpha--netbsd)
Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

The environment is
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/pkg/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/pkg/java/kaffe/bin
CLASSPATH=/usr/pkg/java/kaffe/jre/lib/rt.jar:.

Compiling with jikes gives no error. Running the resulting class stops with the
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Pavel Cahyna | 3 Jul 2006 19:11
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Re: Running java (kaffe) dumps core

On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:34:08PM +0200, Uwe Lienig wrote:
> I have the following problem
> 
> kaffe dumps core with a very simple Hello world. The source is 5 lines
> 
> public class Hallo {
>     public static void main(String[] args) {
>         System.out.println("Hallo Welt!");
>     }
> }
> 
> I'm running bash:
> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (alpha--netbsd)
> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> 
> The environment is
> PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/pkg/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/pkg/java/kaffe/bin
> CLASSPATH=/usr/pkg/java/kaffe/jre/lib/rt.jar:.
> 
> Compiling with jikes gives no error. Running the resulting class stops with the 
> following message:
> 
> (kaffe-bin): unaligned access: va=0x1200d42f1 pc=0x160090090 ra=0x160090004 
> sp=0x1ffffe430 op=ldq

This sounds like a bug in kaffe. try setting the machdep.unaligned_fix
sysctl to 1.

Pavel
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Havard Eidnes | 5 Jul 2006 17:33
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Re: Package binaries for NetBSD/alpha 2.1 / pkgsrc-2006Q1

Hi,

the new files resulting from a new round of bulk builds for
NetBSD/alpha 2.1 has been merged into

   ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages-2006Q1/NetBSD-2.1/alpha/

This time the volume was 763MB rebuilt packages, arts, kdebase,
netpbm, mutt, gnupg, gd, sendmail and sylpheed were among the
updates.

The source this was built from was updated June 28, 2006.  This
was the last build based on the 2006Q1 branch, I'll switch the
build host to 2006Q2 and start a rebuild based on that shortly.

Regards,

- Håvard
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Uwe Lienig | 6 Jul 2006 13:24
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Re: Re: Running java (kaffe) dumps core

Hello Pavel,

Thanks for your input. The sysctl variable was already set to 1
$> sysctl machdep.unaligned_fix
machdep.unaligned_fix = 1

But I've set this. Sysctl wrote:

$> sysctl -w machdep.unaligned_fix=1
machdep.unaligned_fix: 1 -> 1

The error in kaffe persisted. Maybe there is something useful in the .work.log 
or anywhere else, produced by the compiler. I've build kaffee from source.

 > On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:34:08PM +0200, Uwe Lienig wrote:
 > > I have the following problem
 > >
 > > kaffe dumps core with a very simple Hello world. The source is 5 lines
 > >
 > > public class Hallo {
 > >     public static void main(String[] args) {
 > >         System.out.println("Hallo Welt!");
 > >     }
 > > }
 > >
 > > I'm running bash:
 > > GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (alpha--netbsd)
 > > Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 > >
 > > The environment is
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mowestusa | 12 Jul 2006 16:32
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Helping a newbie with a Digital Server 5305

I just got for free a Digital Server 5000 series model
5305. In looking around for a free OS that I could
install, it seems as if NetBSD is the best option for
the alpha platform.

I'm a little confused right now as to how to get
NetBSD installed, so I would appreciate some help and
direction.

1. I can't find my alpha server listed in any of the
lists that mention compatable hardware. Does this mean
that not even NetBSD will work on this machine? (On
the HP site it mentions that you can install tru64Unix
or OpenVMS on it, so I'm assuming you can have a free
Unix on there too.)

2. It asks for Windows NT at boot, so I'm assuming
this is a bios issue. Yet, I only found information
about the SRM Console on www.alphalinux.org. It
mentioned that I need to upgrad the SRM firmware
before attempting to install. Is this true? Are there
different steps that I need to follow to install
NetBSD and using the SRM Console?

3. It has a floppy drive and a CD-ROM drive, so can I
use the CD-ROM image to install NetBSD like I do when
I install Ubuntu Linux on an i386?

4. Does anyone know if X11 works on this model alpha?
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Brian L. Stuart | 12 Jul 2006 17:52

Re: Helping a newbie with a Digital Server 5305

> I just got for free a Digital Server 5000 series model
> 5305.

Fun machine.  Unfortunately, I didn't get mine for free.
And I had to add memory to boot...

> In looking around for a free OS that I could
> install, it seems as if NetBSD is the best option for
> the alpha platform.

That was my conclusion as well.  Though I did boot the
Gentoo Alpha distro of Linux at one point.  My preference
was for NetBSD and that's what's been running for about
a year and a half on it.

> 1. I can't find my alpha server listed in any of the
> lists that mention compatable hardware. Does this mean
> that not even NetBSD will work on this machine?

It does indeed work.  As far as NetBSD compatibility
is concerned, it's really an AlphaServer 1200.  The 5000
series was the "NT-only" version, but it still has SRM
and will happily boot NetBSD.

> 2. It asks for Windows NT at boot, so I'm assuming
> this is a bios issue.

It actually has both AlphaBIOS (used for NT) and SRM
(used for VMS and Unix) in flash.  You'll need to switch
to SRM.  You can get into SRM the first time by pressing
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David Hopper | 16 Jul 2006 03:24

Re: Helping a newbie with a Digital Server 5305

On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:32 AM, mowestusa wrote:

> [...]
> 4. Does anyone know if X11 works on this model alpha?

I can tell you that I've never gotten XFree86 4.x working on my  
AS1200, but I encourage you to try.  It's either a general problem  
with that model's architecture, or a problem with my specific box.   
See my e-mail to port-alpha on 5/14 and give XFree 4.6.0 a shot.

If you have an 8-bit TGA (Powerstorm 3D30 or somesuch) card in it,  
then XFree86 3.x as shipped with NetBSD-Alpha likely works fine--  
this is how I last ran X11 years ago.  Since then I've learned to be  
happy with the console, especially now that SMP is nice and stable.

> Please give me any advice you have in getting this up
> and running. If it just is not worth the effort, let
> me know, and I won't waste my time. I am relatively
> new to Linux, but have enjoyed working with that OS,
> so I hope to expand my OS education/hobby with NetBSD
> using the alpha port.

*Very* worth the effort.  These Alphas were ahead of their time,  
clearly, and NetBSD represents the most complete OS solution for  
these beasts.  Want to plug in a USB card?  Upgrade to ATA-133?   
Machine-independent drivers are a great thing.

> Steve
> mowestusa <at> yahoo.com
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Steve Rikli | 20 Jul 2006 01:03

anyone need 4100 mem/cpu boards?

Scrounged from a dead AlphaServer4100 carcass:

  - CPU board, 533MHz 21164/4MB cache, part# B3005-CA (quantity=2)

  - memory board, 50ns EDO memory, part# B3032-GA (quantity=2)

These are located in Silicon Valley, USA.

Free to any good NetBSD home -- all I ask is repayment for shipping.

cheers,
sr.
--

-- 
|| Steve Rikli             ||| Smoking is a filthy, dirty habit that   ||
|| Systems Administrator   ||| ruins my wind & may eventually kill me  ||
||                         ||| off with lung cancer, but I happen to   ||
|| sr <at> genyosha.net         ||| _like_ filthy dirty habits.  -- R.A.H.  ||
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Dave McGuire | 20 Jul 2006 01:06

Re: anyone need 4100 mem/cpu boards?

Steve Rikli wrote:
> Scrounged from a dead AlphaServer4100 carcass:
> 
>   - CPU board, 533MHz 21164/4MB cache, part# B3005-CA (quantity=2)
> 
>   - memory board, 50ns EDO memory, part# B3032-GA (quantity=2)
> 
> These are located in Silicon Valley, USA.
> 
> Free to any good NetBSD home -- all I ask is repayment for shipping.

  If nobody else pipes up, I could use them...I have an empty AS4100
chassis here.  If someone *needs* them I will defer.

         -Dave

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-- 
Dave McGuire
Cape Coral, FL
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