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Matthias Buelow | 1 Jul 2002 14:15
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Re: generic HBA error messages on 1.6beta2

Matthew Jacob wrote:

> http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob/netbsd.gz
> built off of Top of Tree with some diagnostic code.

Ok, I've been running your kernel and in the meantime it has
actually caught something... unfortunately I wasn't able to
produce a kernel corefile in ddb since I didn't have enough
swap so I can only give you the following kernel message
and I wasn't proficient enough with ddb to actually find out
where it faulted (well, I didn't try hard since I thought
I could produce a crashdump, only to find out I was rather
short on swap...);
Incidentally it occured when I was about to login and reboot
the machine -- the "generic HBA error" hasn't occurred then
for 3 days; I was glad that it _did_ happen right on time. :)
Not much info here but it's probably better than nothing.

login: root
isp0: unable to setup dma (22)
sd0(isp0:0:0:0): generic HBA error

CPU 0: fatal user trap:

CPU 0    trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault)
CPU 0    a0         = 0x1600a5c00
CPU 0    a1         = 0x1
CPU 0    a2         = 0xffffffffffffffff
CPU 0    pc         = 0x1600a5c00
CPU 0    ra         = 0x120003cc4
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Matthew Jacob | 1 Jul 2002 18:54
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Re: generic HBA error messages on 1.6beta2


Unfortunately, the only piece of information that is of any value here is the 

	isp0: unable to setup dma (22)

lines. It's probably some breakage in isp's usage of busdma map stuff that
only gets tickled in sgmap cases.  I'll *probably* be putting up another
kernel for you to try shortly.

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Matthias Buelow wrote:

> Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob/netbsd.gz
> > built off of Top of Tree with some diagnostic code.
> 
> Ok, I've been running your kernel and in the meantime it has
> actually caught something... unfortunately I wasn't able to
> produce a kernel corefile in ddb since I didn't have enough
> swap so I can only give you the following kernel message
> and I wasn't proficient enough with ddb to actually find out
> where it faulted (well, I didn't try hard since I thought
> I could produce a crashdump, only to find out I was rather
> short on swap...);
> Incidentally it occured when I was about to login and reboot
> the machine -- the "generic HBA error" hasn't occurred then
> for 3 days; I was glad that it _did_ happen right on time. :)
> Not much info here but it's probably better than nothing.
> 
>
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Matthew Jacob | 1 Jul 2002 20:59
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Re: generic HBA error messages on 1.6beta2


Pick up a new netbsd.gz from http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob

As far as I can tell, isp is doing the right thing. I put some debugging
messages into the CIA DMA code to see where the EINVAL is getting returned
from.

Unfortunately, I don't have the h/w to push a CIA based system above 1GB of
memory.

-matt
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Matthias Buelow | 2 Jul 2002 01:44
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Re: generic HBA error messages on 1.6beta2

Matthew Jacob wrote:
> Pick up a new netbsd.gz from http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob

Oops, kernel won't boot:

Support for system type 30 is not present in this kernel.
Please build a kernel with "options DEC_550" and reboot.

panic: platform not configured

> Unfortunately, I don't have the h/w to push a CIA based system above 1GB of
> memory.

I'll see if I can get you access to the serial console if that would be
of any help.  Then you at least could fumble in ddb if something
happens.

--mbk
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Glenarvan | 2 Jul 2002 09:46
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DEC 3000 Model M300L

Hi!

recently I talked to Hubert and he suggested you could help me.

I tried to install netbsd 1.5.1 on a dec alpha 3000. The box booted from
cd-rom drive, but after "SWITCHING TO SERIAL CONSOLE" there was no further
action... (I must add - there is no floppy drive available..)

(Previously there were some information like

Open netbsd: No such file or directory

netbsd.gz
netbsd.bak
netbsd.bak.gz
netbsd.dd)

Do you have a clue how to go ahead?

Thanks in advance

Sebastian

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Collin Baillie | 2 Jul 2002 09:50

RE: DEC 3000 Model M300L

Sebastian,

You need to hook up a serial console. By default the NetBSD 1.5.x kernels
don't have support for TurboChannel console. Serial is your only option.

Either a VTxx0 (VT100, VT220, VT420 etc) or a null-modem cable to a PC
serial port.

Cheers,

Collin

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenarvan <at> gmx.net [mailto:Glenarvan <at> gmx.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2002 5:46 PM
To: port-alpha <at> netbsd.org
Subject: DEC 3000 Model M300L

Hi!

recently I talked to Hubert and he suggested you could help me.

I tried to install netbsd 1.5.1 on a dec alpha 3000. The box booted from
cd-rom drive, but after "SWITCHING TO SERIAL CONSOLE" there was no further
action... (I must add - there is no floppy drive available..)

(Previously there were some information like

Open netbsd: No such file or directory
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Davor Kirin | 2 Jul 2002 11:11
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Re: DEC 3000 Model M300L


On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 Glenarvan <at> gmx.net wrote:

> Hi!
>
> recently I talked to Hubert and he suggested you could help me.
>
> I tried to install netbsd 1.5.1 on a dec alpha 3000. The box booted from
> cd-rom drive, but after "SWITCHING TO SERIAL CONSOLE" there was no further
> action... (I must add - there is no floppy drive available..)
>
> (Previously there were some information like
>
> Open netbsd: No such file or directory
>
> netbsd.gz
> netbsd.bak
> netbsd.bak.gz
> netbsd.dd)

netbsd on dec 3000 dont support graphical console. try install some
terminal program like SecureCRT or something like that on PC and connect
your digital via serial to PC.
i had same problem and this is only solution.

d.
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Matthew Jacob | 2 Jul 2002 11:16
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Re: generic HBA error messages on 1.6beta2


Oops. Sorry- I passed you the wrong kernel. Try it again.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Matthias Buelow wrote:

> Matthew Jacob wrote:
> > Pick up a new netbsd.gz from http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob
> 
> Oops, kernel won't boot:
> 
> 
> Support for system type 30 is not present in this kernel.
> Please build a kernel with "options DEC_550" and reboot.
> 
> panic: platform not configured
> 
> 
> 
> > Unfortunately, I don't have the h/w to push a CIA based system above 1GB of
> > memory.
> 
> I'll see if I can get you access to the serial console if that would be
> of any help.  Then you at least could fumble in ddb if something
> happens.
> 
> --mbk
> 
> 
>
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Jochen Kmietsch | 2 Jul 2002 11:44
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RE: DEC 3000 Model M300L

Hello!

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Collin Baillie wrote:

> You need to hook up a serial console. By default the NetBSD 1.5.x kernels
> don't have support for TurboChannel console. Serial is your only option.

What about
ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/netbsd/arch/alpha/TCWSCONS/
?
Are those "normal" kernels so they can't be used for installation?
Also,
http://www-personal.monash.edu.au/~barnesm/dec/
seems to have install-kernels with tcwscons-support?

Sebastian, I suggest that you go straight to NetBSD 1.6_BETA2.  All older
versions come with ancient compilers (egcs from '91) that are no fun at
all.  Sure, you can try to update later but I had much trouble on my
3000/300 with 1.5.2 and recently reinstalled with 1.6_BETA2 and things are
much better (except that the necessary security updates take hours to
compile, but that's not all NetBSD's fault :))

Jochen
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Jochen Kunz | 2 Jul 2002 11:55
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Re: DEC 3000 Model M300L

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 09:46:27AM +0200, Glenarvan <at> gmx.net wrote:

> I tried to install netbsd 1.5.1 on a dec alpha 3000. The box booted from
> cd-rom drive, but after "SWITCHING TO SERIAL CONSOLE" there was no further
> action...
The message says it all. This kernel does not support TC framebuffers.
Use a serial console, or better, use a 1.6 BETA / ALPHA prerelease.
This will give you TC framebuffer console and a good chance to get
a working Xserver. (I don't know if the Xserver now "officially"
supports TC framebuffers, but I got the Xserver working on my
DEC3k600 / PMAGB-B with -current last october.) 
Besids that, it is an other betatest for the upcoming release, 
and beta testing is good. ;-) 
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tschüß,
         Jochen

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