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Jack Twilley | 1 Jun 2002 06:03
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Multia blues

I've finally gotten my Multia set up, and I'm trying to netboot.  I've
got SRM 3.8-2 and a friend of mine ported the setnetbootinfo code to
FreeBSD/i386 so I could modify my kernel.  It boots to the point where
it tries to get its address the second time for DHCP.  It keeps
asking, my server keeps on offering a response, it doesn't care.

Any suggestions on what to try now?

Jack.
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David Brownlee | 1 Jun 2002 17:21
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Multia serial console netboot fun

	Trying to setup a multia on a serial console for a friend.

	It has SRM version V3.8-2, so it _should_ be able to netboot.

	The machine has NetBSD 1.5.2 installed, but fails to boot on
	a serial console with various 'stray isa irq X' messages, with
	the final one being 'stray isa irq 4' (4==com0). Booting single
	user ends up with:
	    root on sd0a dumps on sd0b
	    root file system type: ffs
	    Enter pathname ostray isa irq 4
	at which poing the console is unresponsive, though plugging in a
	pcmcia card will kick out a line of output.

	Trying to netboot a current kernelhas its own fun - a 1.5 netboot
	fails with:
	    Boot flags: a
	    boot: boot device name does not contain ethernet address.

	    Boot device name was: "BOOTP 0 8 0 0 0 3 0"

	    Your firmware may be too old to network-boot NetBSD/alpha,
	    or you might have to hard-code an ethernet address into
	    your network boot block with setnetbootinfo(8).
	while a 1.5ZC netboot just hangs.

	I'm, going to go away and play with setnetbootinfo, but its
	concerning that -current netboot fails without any message...

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Roland Dowdeswell | 1 Jun 2002 20:37
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Re: Multia serial console netboot fun


On 1022944862 seconds since the Beginning of the UNIX epoch
David Brownlee wrote:
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>	I'm, going to go away and play with setnetbootinfo, but its
>	concerning that -current netboot fails without any message...

Please refer to port-alpha/6446 which I filed quite some time ago.
I can help via email, but I do not have access to any Multias at
the moment so I cannot actually fix this myself.  Basically, the
short form was from memory:  if you hard-code the ethernet address
in netbsd.alpha then broken_firmware will be set to 1 in
/sys/arch/alpha/stand/netboot/if_prom.c.  This doesn't work for
the Multia which needs a hard-coded ethernet address, but
broken_firmware = 0.

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David Brownlee | 2 Jun 2002 16:27
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Re: Multia serial console netboot fun

	To follow up on my own post:

On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, David Brownlee wrote:

> 	Trying to setup a multia on a serial console for a friend.
>
> 	The machine has NetBSD 1.5.2 installed, but fails to boot on
> 	a serial console with various 'stray isa irq X' messages
> 	[...]

	This seems to be fixed in 1.6_BETA1.

	Still having fun trying to netbot - going to try Roland's
	suggestion about setting mac address but not broken_firmware
	next.

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David Brownlee | 2 Jun 2002 16:48

Multia rebooting problems

	Trying to reboot a multia rnnng 1.6_BETA1 with serial console ends
	up with	a machine check - is ayone else seeing this?

lead# reboot
syncing disks... done
rebooting...

*** keyboard not plugged in...
Keyboard error; using serial port terminal

halted CPU 0

halt code = 5
HALT instruction executed
PC = fffffc0000300118
*** no timer interrupts on CPU 0 ***

CPU 0 booting

Unexpected Machine Check through vector 00000067

IPRs:
EXC_ADD:00000000001303A0  ICCSR:   0000000000000000  HIER:   000000001FFFDC70
HIRR:   0000000000001022  MM_CSR:  00000000000053A0  DC_STAT:0000000000000003
DC_ADDR:00000007FFFFFFFF  ESR:     6FB0D8F900020000  EAR:    2008000000000070
STAT0:  0000013A0000013A  STAT1:   0000080000000800  VA:     0000000000000000
EXC_SUM:0000000000000000  BC_TAG:  0000000000000000

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Juergen Weiss | 3 Jun 2002 19:59
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RE: Multia rebooting problems

I think this happened with the 1.5.x tree as well. I put
a hardware reset (read a specific location) in the
reboot code. Sorry I'm not at home for the week -- so
I do not have access to the diffs.

By the way, netbooting works within the same subnet,
not over a router (bad firmware) along the way of Roland's
suggestion (I think, I recompiled netboot instead).

Fixes for stray interrupts with serial console have been
sent this list a while ago. Seems to be fixed in 1.5.3RC,
but without access to a system I'm not sure.

I the problems persist, I can post solutions next week.

Juergen Weiss	  | Universitaet Mainz, Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung,
weiss <at> uni-mainz.de| 55099 Mainz, Tel: +49(6131)39-26361, FAX: +49(6131)39-26407 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Brownlee [mailto:abs <at> formula1.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 4:48 PM
> To: port-alpha <at> netbsd.org
> Subject: Multia rebooting problems 
> 
> 
> 	Trying to reboot a multia rnnng 1.6_BETA1 with serial 
> console ends
> 	up with	a machine check - is ayone else seeing this?
> 
> lead# reboot
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Jarkko Teppo | 4 Jun 2002 09:35

AS1000, 32/36-bit memory ?


Does Alphaserver 1000 need 36-bit SIMMs ? I know it needs them in
sets of 5 (4+1 for ECC) but after googling I've got sort of mixed
results. I tried some 32-bit 32MB simms from my junk box but they
didn't work.

I'll get by with 352MB but I'm a greedy bastard and it'll be a
cold day in hell before I start buying 36-bit 32MB FPM SIMMs with
the current prices in .fi (one quote was 118 euros per SIMM, $ ~ euro).
That ludicrous price is the main reason why I won't upgrade my
AS600 with , uh, eight SIMMs per bank :-)

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Collin Baillie | 4 Jun 2002 09:46

RE: AS1000, 32/36-bit memory ?


Try these guys:
http://www.mchoward.com/

Or look at their auctions on ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=mc
howard <at> prismnet.com&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1

At $10.99 / 32MB 72-pin 36-bit parity fpm simm, they're pretty decent.

I've had good dealings with them, and that includes shipping from USA to
Australia.

Collin

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From: Jarkko Teppo [mailto:jarkko.teppo <at> er-grp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2002 5:36 PM
To: port-alpha <at> netbsd.org
Subject: AS1000, 32/36-bit memory ?

Does Alphaserver 1000 need 36-bit SIMMs ? I know it needs them in
sets of 5 (4+1 for ECC) but after googling I've got sort of mixed
results. I tried some 32-bit 32MB simms from my junk box but they
didn't work.

I'll get by with 352MB but I'm a greedy bastard and it'll be a
cold day in hell before I start buying 36-bit 32MB FPM SIMMs with
the current prices in .fi (one quote was 118 euros per SIMM, $ ~ euro).
That ludicrous price is the main reason why I won't upgrade my
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Murray Armfield | 5 Jun 2002 15:09
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Support for alphaserver 2100?

Hi Folks,
	I've been searching through the NetBSD mail archives and found some 
references to some work done on getting the alphaserver 2100 going from a 
while back. The box is a 4/275 and I've tried the 20020512-1.5ZC snapshot in 
the arch/alpha area on the ftp server and the boot floppies in the 
jensen-sable-lynx area in arch/alpha, but it doesn't get any further than 
loading floppies and saying...
	Entering NetBSD at 0xblahblahblah....
	[ netbsd ELF symbol table not valid ]
	[ no symbol table formats found ]
and then just sits there, humming away.

	Am I missing something here in the way I boot the box?
	Is there any interest in supporting this machine? If so I'd be happy to try 
things out for anyone.

Please CC me as I haven't signed up for the post-alpha mailing list.

Take care,
Murray Armfield
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Peter B | 6 Jun 2002 04:15
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Powersupply question.


I have an Digital AlphaStation 4/255 266 MHz that miss the power supply.
I have looked into the hardware documentation of the machine (online). And it
seems that of the four power connectors. The two first (J19) seems compatible 
with standard PC AT-supply. While the second two are GND & 3,3 Volt. Is that 
true?  (I assume VDD is +5V).

If so could I make an converter adapter so I can run the AlphaStation with a
standard PC ATX power supply ?, 

How many Watts does that need to be to just run the motherboard+cpu+memory ..?

     /Peter

ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/ek-pcdsa-ti.pdf.gz

p150, Table 10-6 AlphaStation 200 Series System Motherboard Power Connectors

    J19
Open	1   <-- Power good?
VDD	2   <-- +5V ?
+12V	3
-12V	4
Ground	5
Ground	6

Ground	7
Ground	8
-5V	9
VDD	10
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