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Frank Wennmohs | 15 Mar 2003 09:24
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Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

Hello!

Yesterday I tried to install the 1.6.1_RC2 on my RiscPC
but during the install of a completely new system the 
install system something got seriously wrong....:

After installing the sets from 200303140000
and then after unpacking those the system died when trying
to access the hard disc again.
A restart and trying to mount the partitions by hand
showed the the discs inodes etc. were totally screwed up!!!

Can anyone verify this?

I did this on a hard disc on which I installed versions of
NetBSD a dozen times without any problems, so I don't think
that the hardware is damaged.

Frank
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Gavan Fantom | 15 Mar 2003 10:15
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:

> Yesterday I tried to install the 1.6.1_RC2 on my RiscPC
> but during the install of a completely new system the
> install system something got seriously wrong....:
>
> After installing the sets from 200303140000
> and then after unpacking those the system died when trying
> to access the hard disc again.
> A restart and trying to mount the partitions by hand
> showed the the discs inodes etc. were totally screwed up!!!
>
> Can anyone verify this?
>
> I did this on a hard disc on which I installed versions of
> NetBSD a dozen times without any problems, so I don't think
> that the hardware is damaged.

I didn't have any problems with an earlier build of RC2.. what hardware
are you running on?

I'm using the plain old internal IDE interface.

Is the problem repeatable? What happens if you restart the installation
from scratch?

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Frank Wennmohs | 15 Mar 2003 13:16
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 09:15:44AM +0000, Gavan Fantom wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:
> 
> > Yesterday I tried to install the 1.6.1_RC2 on my RiscPC
> > but during the install of a completely new system the
> > install system something got seriously wrong....:
> >
> > After installing the sets from 200303140000
> > and then after unpacking those the system died when trying
> > to access the hard disc again.
> > A restart and trying to mount the partitions by hand
> > showed the the discs inodes etc. were totally screwed up!!!
> >
> > Can anyone verify this?
> >
> > I did this on a hard disc on which I installed versions of
> > NetBSD a dozen times without any problems, so I don't think
> > that the hardware is damaged.
> 
> I didn't have any problems with an earlier build of RC2.. what hardware
> are you running on?
> 
> I'm using the plain old internal IDE interface.
> 

Yes, I am also using quite a plain system:
RPC700 board, internal IDE, SA110, 64MB

> Is the problem repeatable? What happens if you restart the installation
> from scratch?
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Gavan Fantom | 16 Mar 2003 13:42
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:

> Yes, I am also using quite a plain system:
> RPC700 board, internal IDE, SA110, 64MB

Just to rule this out, whivh revision of the SA110?

> > Is the problem repeatable? What happens if you restart the installation
> > from scratch?
> >
>
> The whole installation was from scratch.
> I just did an installation of 1.6O (200302240000)
> and the problem does not occur.
>
> Any suggestions?

It would seem that one of the more recent changes to -current has
eliminated this problem, then. As for what I'm not too sure as I haven't
been keeping up with -current recently, though.

Are you in a position to try earlier versions of -current to give a rough
idea of when it started working?

And it's definitely worth sending a PR.

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Frank Wennmohs | 16 Mar 2003 14:05
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:42:50PM +0000, Gavan Fantom wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I am also using quite a plain system:
> > RPC700 board, internal IDE, SA110, 64MB
> 
> Just to rule this out, whivh revision of the SA110?
> 

The good one with the DEC Logo ;)
Revision S

> > > Is the problem repeatable? What happens if you restart the installation
> > > from scratch?
> > >
> >
> > The whole installation was from scratch.
> > I just did an installation of 1.6O (200302240000)
> > and the problem does not occur.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> It would seem that one of the more recent changes to -current has
> eliminated this problem, then. As for what I'm not too sure as I haven't
> been keeping up with -current recently, though.
> 

I never had problems like this with -stable either.
This morning I tried it agagin with different block- and filesizes.
No way. The first hint that something is wrong is, after the
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Chris Gilbert | 17 Mar 2003 03:11
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

Frank Wennmohs said:
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:42:50PM +0000, Gavan Fantom wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, I am also using quite a plain system:
>> > RPC700 board, internal IDE, SA110, 64MB
>>
>> Just to rule this out, whivh revision of the SA110?
>>
>
> The good one with the DEC Logo ;)
> Revision S

S or T is good 8)

>> > > Is the problem repeatable? What happens if you restart the
>> installation from scratch?
>> > >
>> >
>> > The whole installation was from scratch.
>> > I just did an installation of 1.6O (200302240000)
>> > and the problem does not occur.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>>
>> It would seem that one of the more recent changes to -current has
>> eliminated this problem, then. As for what I'm not too sure as I
>> haven't been keeping up with -current recently, though.
>>
>
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Frank Wennmohs | 17 Mar 2003 09:39
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:11:48AM -0000, Chris Gilbert wrote:
> Frank Wennmohs said:
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:42:50PM +0000, Gavan Fantom wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes, I am also using quite a plain system:
> >> > RPC700 board, internal IDE, SA110, 64MB
> >>
> >> Just to rule this out, whivh revision of the SA110?
> >>
> > Revision S
> 
> >> > The whole installation was from scratch.
> >> > I just did an installation of 1.6O (200302240000)
> >> > and the problem does not occur.
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >>
> 
> Could you try 1.6, see if it was broken then, narrows it down to a change
> that was pulled up...
> 

The problem did not occur with 1.6

> >
> > I tried to compile X with -current, but there seem to be
> > some pthread problems. It compiled correctly, but
> > when trying to startx it stops because of problems with pthread.
> > But due to the fixed dynamic linker it's ways faster.
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Gavan Fantom | 17 Mar 2003 17:53
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Re: Install failure 1.6.1_RC2

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Frank Wennmohs wrote:

> > Could you try 1.6, see if it was broken then, narrows it down to a change
> > that was pulled up...
> >
>
> The problem did not occur with 1.6

In that case, I suppose it would be best to try a snapshot of the 1.6
branch half way between the 1.6 release and now.

Do date based checkouts work nowadays?

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Frank Wennmohs | 20 Mar 2003 09:55
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Install 1.6.1_RC2 ...

Hello!

Having cross-compiled the 1.6.1_RC2 from i386
the install process still crashed with '/ full',
but all information have been written to disk up to
that point. And the reboot worked this time, without
any disk corruption. As this version should be
roughly the same I checked last time from releng.netbsd.org,
I cannot explain why it worked this time.

BTW, is it really neccessary to mount the discs async during
sysinst? Might be this is a reason for failure, although
less reproducable.

Frank
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Gavan Fantom | 26 Mar 2003 12:51
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Wakefield show

Are we planning a presence this year?

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