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Pavel Cahyna | 2 Feb 2008 17:04
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differencies in generated .html files

Hello,

I have often observed "spurious" changes in html files that I have
regenerated from XML myself. The changes looked like e.g.

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 <at>  <at>  -144,7 +144,7  <at>  <at> 

 

-    <p>You can <a class="ulink" href="http://www.NetBSD.org/Gnats/" target="_top">
+    <p>You can <a href="http://www.NetBSD.org/Gnats/" target="_top">
       <span class="bold"><strong>view the PR database summaries</strong></span></a>
       and look for PRs you can handle.</p>
     <p>There are many of them divided to many categories; most are

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I have discovered that after upgrading the docbook-xsl package from 1.69.1
to 1.73.2nb1 the differences disappear. So if you have this problem and
avoid committing the generated files because of it, try upgrading
docbook-xsl.

Pavel
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Matthias Drochner | 22 Feb 2008 00:03
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Re: CVS commit: src


dholland+sourcechanges <at> eecs.harvard.edu said:
> One case would be that I (have) import(ed) NetBSD's libc more or less
> wholesale into more than one research project; I would like to be able
> to continue to do that without wading through every file to check for
> licensing problems. 

As said in another mail, FreeBSD seems to take that easier.
I wouldn't assume that to be a result of different negotiations
with TOG, but of different interpretation.
As a person which can barely read english text written by
normal humans, I can't honestly contribute to the interpretation
of the license text.
My gut feeling is "no worries", but I'd like to hear experts first
before I move the manpages forth and back in the source tree.

> This should probably be discussed somewhere other than source-changes,
> too. :-| 

OK, moved to netbsd-docs.

best regards
Matthias

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YAMAMOTO Takashi | 25 Feb 2008 09:57
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Re: CVS commit: src

> dholland+sourcechanges <at> eecs.harvard.edu said:
> > One case would be that I (have) import(ed) NetBSD's libc more or less
> > wholesale into more than one research project; I would like to be able
> > to continue to do that without wading through every file to check for
> > licensing problems. 
> 
> As said in another mail, FreeBSD seems to take that easier.
> I wouldn't assume that to be a result of different negotiations
> with TOG, but of different interpretation.
> As a person which can barely read english text written by
> normal humans, I can't honestly contribute to the interpretation
> of the license text.
> My gut feeling is "no worries", but I'd like to hear experts first
> before I move the manpages forth and back in the source tree.

to me, i doesn't seem like a matter of interpretation.
iirc, we have been explicitly told that formatted man pages should have
the TOG license notice.  freebsd doesn't seem to have it.

YAMAMOTO Takashi

> 
> > This should probably be discussed somewhere other than source-changes,
> > too. :-| 
> 
> OK, moved to netbsd-docs.
> 
> best regards
> Matthias
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Matthias Drochner | 26 Feb 2008 12:17
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Re: CVS commit: src


yamt <at> mwd.biglobe.ne.jp said:
> iirc, we have been explicitly told that formatted man pages should
> have the TOG license notice.  freebsd doesn't seem to have it. 

I don't argue that we should put the text there if we got
told so - this doesn't hurt.
The question is whether we can redistribute the stuff without
further restrictions.

Hubert - any progress here?

best regards
Matthias

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Hubert Feyrer | 26 Feb 2008 12:20
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TOC licensing [was: Re: CVS commit: src]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Matthias Drochner wrote:
>> iirc, we have been explicitly told that formatted man pages should
>> have the TOG license notice.  freebsd doesn't seem to have it.
>
> I don't argue that we should put the text there if we got
> told so - this doesn't hurt.
> The question is whether we can redistribute the stuff without
> further restrictions.
>
> Hubert - any progress here?

Er no (sorry), but I'll go and ask now. I don't expect us to get 
permission for re-licensing, though.

  - Hubert
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Hubert Feyrer | 26 Feb 2008 16:11
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Re: CVS commit: src

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Matthias Drochner wrote:
> Hubert - any progress here?

Here we go: I've answer from TOG that descendants of NetBSD don't have to 
get an extra license.

As such, I think there's no problem adding those TOG-licensed manpages 
(e.g. from the Linux documentatino project, as mentioned) into NetBSD.

  - Hubert
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