netbsd-docs-ro

I'm wondering if NetBSD can open a new netbsd-docs
mailing list , for romanian speakers , like :
netbsd-docs-ro . Some of my friend, that are helping
me on the spanish project , are romanian , and they
ask me if may I ask for a new list , in romanian ,
what I did :)
It will be cool , and maybe , thanks of that , other
users may join the NetBSD Project and the local
usergroups , helping with whatever is possible. 
Thanks

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Re: guide - czech translation

On 2005.08.26 23:14:20 +0000, rudolf wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| after consultation with the kind people from www <at> netbsd.org I've started 
| translation of the NetBSD guide to czech language. It's not going to be 
| a rapid process, but I want to make it happen.
| 
| So I've put a dedicated site into operation and I'm going to publish the 
| translated files there:
| http://netbsd-guide.eq.cz/
| 
| I'm also going to publish generated html files so please review them and 
| let me know about any errors and issues.
| 
| I can't make the html files with the charset=ISO-8859-2 head, with 
| "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" in Makefile I achieved only ISO-8859-1 with 
| the specific czech characters in body as html entities. So the one html 
| file currently published is generated without "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" 
| in Makefile and the charset is manually changed. What's the canonical 
| way of generating different charset head here, please?

Isn't best to use XML entities to display czech characters?

| Two remarks to existing english text:
| 
| I have found following two sentences in the chap-intro.xml file:
| "When you install &os; you have a rich set of programs and applications 
| that you can install on your system."
| "When you install &os; you don't find huge pre-packaged collections of 
| applications;"

Re: guide - czech translation

Rui Paulo wrote:
> On 2005.08.26 23:14:20 +0000, rudolf wrote:
> | I can't make the html files with the charset=ISO-8859-2 head, with 
> | "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" in Makefile I achieved only ISO-8859-1 with 
> | the specific czech characters in body as html entities. So the one html 
> | file currently published is generated without "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" 
> | in Makefile and the charset is manually changed. What's the canonical 
> | way of generating different charset head here, please?
> 
> Isn't best to use XML entities to display czech characters?

IMHO, no.

> | In the chap-intro-applications section is also a todo mark:
> | <!-- *** TODO *** other emulations -->
> | Here definitely should be the NetBSD's capabiliy of backward 
> | compatibility. I've not seen very much operating systems, but I think 
> | the NetBSD's smooth way of upgrades makes it really different from them.
> 
> Err, what has backward compatibility to do with emulations ? I think that
> comment is there because the next <para> misses some emulations like
> Darwin, OSF1, Linux, Irix, etc.
> 
> 		-- Rui Paulo

Maybe I am just being confused by the name? Is the in-kernel mechanism 
totally different?

# Compatibility options
options         COMPAT_NOMID    # NetBSD 0.8, 386BSD, and BSDI

Re: guide - czech translation

On 2005.09.04 01:13:51 +0200, rudolf wrote:
| Rui Paulo wrote:
| >On 2005.08.26 23:14:20 +0000, rudolf wrote:
| >| I can't make the html files with the charset=ISO-8859-2 head, with 
| >| "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" in Makefile I achieved only ISO-8859-1 with 
| >| the specific czech characters in body as html entities. So the one html 
| >| file currently published is generated without "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" 
| >| in Makefile and the charset is manually changed. What's the canonical 
| >| way of generating different charset head here, please?
| >
| >Isn't best to use XML entities to display czech characters?
| 
| IMHO, no.

Why ?

| >| In the chap-intro-applications section is also a todo mark:
| >| <!-- *** TODO *** other emulations -->
| >| Here definitely should be the NetBSD's capabiliy of backward 
| >| compatibility. I've not seen very much operating systems, but I think 
| >| the NetBSD's smooth way of upgrades makes it really different from them.
| >
| >Err, what has backward compatibility to do with emulations ? I think that
| >comment is there because the next <para> misses some emulations like
| >Darwin, OSF1, Linux, Irix, etc.
| >
| >		-- Rui Paulo
| 
| 
| Maybe I am just being confused by the name? Is the in-kernel mechanism 

Re: [RAIDframe] 16.3.7 Setting up kernel dumps

On 2005.08.18 19:15:52 +0100, Rui Paulo wrote:
| On 2005.08.18 14:12:37 +0000, Ryan Cresawn wrote:
| | On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 12:21:56AM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote:
| | > | The URL I mentioned earlier was instrumental in getting this to work.
| | > | Booting now works correctly from either disk.  Would you like me to
| | > | attempt to modify the XML file again to include these details?
| | > 
| | > Yes, please. That would be great. Thanks!
| | > 
| | > 		-- Rui Paulo
| | 
| | Rui,
| | 
| | How do I build chap-rf.html from chap-rf.xml?  I would like to know
| | because I want to see how it looks in Firefox.  If there's
| | documentation which explains how to do this then please point me to
| | it.
| 
| http://www.netbsd.org/developers/htdocs.html#what-is-required
| 
| You'll need to install netbsd-doc and netbsd-doc-print too. Good luck!

Are you having any problems ? If so, please tell me so I can help.

		-- Rui Paulo

error in dns documentation

Hello,

In: http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/chap-dns.html#chap-dns-files-zone-diverge there is an error
concerning the mx records. mx records should never point to cnames. 

thanks,
ryan olejnik

Re: error in dns documentation

On 2005.09.03 18:54:17 -0500, Charlie Root wrote:
| Hello,
| 
| In: http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/chap-dns.html#chap-dns-files-zone-diverge there is an error
concerning the mx records. mx records should never point to cnames. 
| 
| thanks,
| ryan olejnik

You are right. RFC 1912 says that (hi salo :) too.
I've made the changes.

Thanks

		-- Rui Paulo

Re: guide - czech translation

On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 12:05:59AM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote:
> On 2005.08.26 23:14:20 +0000, rudolf wrote:
> | I can't make the html files with the charset=ISO-8859-2 head, with 
> | "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" in Makefile I achieved only ISO-8859-1 with 
> | the specific czech characters in body as html entities. So the one html 
> | file currently published is generated without "XML_ENCODING= iso-8859-2" 
> | in Makefile and the charset is manually changed. What's the canonical 
> | way of generating different charset head here, please?

You seem to miss encoding in your XML files - you should be using
header:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-2"?>

the default is iso-8859-1 IIRC. No idea if it would make it work tho.

guide/pl seems to be using iso-8859-2, so I'd check what setting
they use.

> Isn't best to use XML entities to display czech characters?

Nope :)

Using the text entities is not maintainable. It's possible to
use UTF-8 tho - this is well supported by e.g. vim.

Jaromir
--

-- 
Jaromir Dolecek <jdolecek <at> NetBSD.org>            http://www.NetBSD.cz/
-=- We can walk our road together if our goals are all the same;     -=-

chap-rf typo

Hi,

I've spotted a typo in chap-rf.xml, patch attached.

r.

--- chap-rf.xml-orig	2005-09-06 17:17:27.000000000 +0200
+++ chap-rf.xml	2005-09-06 17:17:46.000000000 +0200
 <at>  <at>  -1047,7 +1047,7  <at>  <at> 

 /dev/raid0a  /  ffs  rw  1  1
 /dev/raid0b  none  swap  sw  0  0
-/dev/wd0b  none  swap  dw  0  0
+/dev/wd0b  none  swap  dp  0  0
 kernfs    /kern  kernfs  rw
 procfs    /proc  procfs  rw</screen>

Documentation ramblings... (was Re: Kernel config documentation (Re: seriousness of this Project))

On 2005-09-08 uhel <at> gmx.net wrote:

> > Kernel config documentation is really high on my wish list
> > and, I guess, a lot of other users...
>
> what kind of documentation do you have in mind?
> The options are described in *man options*. That seems to be the same
> as the link to the FreeBSD handbook but textmode only ;)

  I have been thinking that an interactive documentation reader along with
some additional metainfo in the man pages would allow combining and
limiting the information presented according to somewhat more detailed
context, while keeping the individual manpage as the basic unit of
documentation.  This would allow pulling in basic descriptions of kernel
configuration details from many manpages and also removing text such as
options for other processors.  You could interactively create lists of
various types (such as all network drivers).  For bonus points it could
even include a basic line editor that could assist in creating
configuration files (of all kinds) and able to copy and customize some
types of info from the man pages.  The basic combination and limiting
features would be available from the command line as well, but the
interactive element would allow context to accumulate as you determine it
and to maintain pointers to various pieces of documentation.  This would
also allow better integration of third party documentation that provides
the necessary metainfo (which most wouldn't, but would make it possible).
On the negative side, too much formalism can make it even harder to write
good documentation, so the manipulations would need to be limited to
maintain sanity.

  It seems to me that a major need in documentation that is almost always