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SODA Noriyuki | 1 Feb 2010 11:58

Re: Adobe Reader

>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:56:00 +0900,
      SODA Noriyuki <soda <at> yuruyuru.net> said:

> I strongly believe print/acroread and print/acroread5 should be
> removed from pkgsrc

FYI,
I sent a PR about it:
http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=42688

Note that this PR says acroread 8 should be removed.
Since it has same security issue, and it isn't a good thing that
NetBSD is weaker than RHEL from security POV (Red Hat already dropped
acroread 8 from supported packages).

Is there any objection?
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Hubert Feyrer | 1 Feb 2010 12:08
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Re: Adobe Reader

On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, SODA Noriyuki wrote:
> I sent a PR about it:
> http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=42688

The PR does not mention the voices that were previously raised against 
deleting acroread4 & 5.
(I don't care for version 8).

  - Hubert
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SODA Noriyuki | 1 Feb 2010 12:11

Re: Adobe Reader

Hi, Hubert.

>>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:08:26 +0100 (CET),
      Hubert Feyrer <hubert <at> feyrer.de> said:

>> I sent a PR about it:
>> http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=42688

> The PR does not mention the voices that were previously raised against 
> deleting acroread4 & 5.

What was the issue at that time?
Is the reason still applicable to the current situation?
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OBATA Akio | 1 Feb 2010 12:20
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Re: Adobe Reader

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:58:31 +0900, SODA Noriyuki <soda <at> yuruyuru.net> wrote:

>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:56:00 +0900,
>       SODA Noriyuki <soda <at> yuruyuru.net> said:
>
>> I strongly believe print/acroread and print/acroread5 should be
>> removed from pkgsrc
>
> FYI,
> I sent a PR about it:
> http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=42688
>
> Note that this PR says acroread 8 should be removed.
> Since it has same security issue, and it isn't a good thing that
> NetBSD is weaker than RHEL from security POV (Red Hat already dropped
> acroread 8 from supported packages).
>
> Is there any objection?

JFYI:
All of acroread packages in pkgsrc are marked as EOL,
so users should already know using vulnerable, out-of-date version.

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SODA Noriyuki | 1 Feb 2010 13:04

Re: Adobe Reader

>>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:43:42 +0100 (CET),
	Hubert Feyrer <hubert <at> feyrer.de> said:

>>> It was the discussion that was raised a few days ago,
>>> so I think it still applies. You started it, so I think you should 
>>> remember. Please do not ignore the answers you got.
>>
>> As you see in the following mail archive:
>> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/tindex.html
>> the following my message was the last mail in the thread:
>> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/01/28/msg011585.html
>> 
>> And the message was the only one I sent to the thread.
>> i.e. I didn't get any answer in the thread.
>> Thus, there was no objection against my message, of course.
>> 
>> Or, am I missing something?

> Three people objecting the removal:
> 
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/01/27/msg011562.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/01/27/msg011564.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/01/27/msg011564.html

As I already said, all of these mails were sent before my mail.
i.e. All of then are not objection to me.
Also, I'm not the person who started the thread.

> I'll stop answering to this now as it seems I'm wasting my time here.
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SODA Noriyuki | 1 Feb 2010 12:39

Re: Adobe Reader

Hi, Hubert

>>>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:26:58 +0100 (CET),
	Hubert Feyrer <hubert <at> feyrer.de> said:

> It was the discussion that was raised a few days ago,

Ah, I thought the thread you mentioned was something different.

> so I think it still applies. You started it, so I think you should 
> remember. Please do not ignore the answers you got.

I think your memory is not right.
As you see in the following mail archive:
	http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/tindex.html
the following my message was the last mail in the thread:
	http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/01/28/msg011585.html

And the message was the only one I sent to the thread.
i.e. I didn't get any answer in the thread.
Thus, there was no objection against my message, of course.

Or, am I missing something?
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Robert Elz | 1 Feb 2010 18:17
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Re: Adobe Reader

    Date:        Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:54:16 +0900
    From:        SODA Noriyuki <soda <at> yuruyuru.net>
    Message-ID:  <19302.63784.192905.569252 <at> gargle.gargle.HOWL>

  | I don't think there is any actual user whose benefit is greater than
  | her/his risk.

My point was that this is not your responsibility - other users get to
decide for themselves, using their own judgment, not yours.

You can warn them of the dangers, and of course, you don't have to do
anything to assist people do something that you think is wrong, or ill
advised, but you don't get to make other people's decisions for them.

  | Because users of your machine might use acroread despite of your
  | suggestion

What users?   My laptop, has me, and that's it.   If I don't use it,
no-one uses it.   Now what was that danger?

  | Showing too old version of acroread is not benefit at all, but
  | just shame.

It just shows that it exists, and that NetBSD has the same stuff available
as other systems.

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Quentin Garnier | 1 Feb 2010 19:09

Re: Adobe Reader

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 12:17:15AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
>     Date:        Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:54:16 +0900
>     From:        SODA Noriyuki <soda <at> yuruyuru.net>
>     Message-ID:  <19302.63784.192905.569252 <at> gargle.gargle.HOWL>
> 
>   | I don't think there is any actual user whose benefit is greater than
>   | her/his risk.
> 
> My point was that this is not your responsibility - other users get to
> decide for themselves, using their own judgment, not yours.

That's not entirely true, because in order to give users that choice,
pkgsrc developers have to maintain the package.  It might not be a
tremendous amount of work to maintain it, but it is still *some*.

If you want to keep on using an antediluvian Acroread, it's your choice.
You'll always be able to find the files in the Attic to maintain your
own local package.

As an intermediary solution, why not creating an "unsupported" category,
that would never be automatically compiled by any means, and would only
receive packages whose maintainablity costs greatly outweighs their
value while remaining used by a vocal enough fraction of the pkgsrc user
community?  No PRs for such packages would be accepted.

I am certainly not suggesting that all deleted packages should go into
that...  ahem, retirement castle (nice choice of words, eh?).

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bougieskater | 1 Feb 2010 17:45
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Building groff

Hello

 

I am trying to build groff of pkgsrc-2009Q4 on a Solaris 10 u8 x86 with Sun Studio 12 update 1

But during the building step, I have some errors :

 

=> Automatic manual page handling

=> Running POST-INSTALL script actions

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/geqn'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/ggrn'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gindxbib'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/glookbib'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gneqn'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gnroff'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gpic'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/grefer'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gsoelim'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gtbl'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gtroff'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/geqn.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/ggrn.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gindxbib.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/glookbib.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gneqn.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gnroff.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gpic.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/grefer.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gsoelim.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gtbl.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gtroff.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gm.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmm.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmmse.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmse.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gs.tmac'

=> Registering installation for groff-1.20.1nb2

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/geqn' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/ggrn' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gindxbib' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/glookbib' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gneqn' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gnroff' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gpic' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/grefer' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gsoelim' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gtbl' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/bin/gtroff' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/geqn.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/ggrn.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gindxbib.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/glookbib.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gneqn.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gnroff.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gpic.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/grefer.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gsoelim.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gtbl.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gtroff.1' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gm.tmac' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmm.tmac' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmmse.tmac' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmse.tmac' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

pkg_admin: groff-1.20.1nb2: File `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gs.tmac' is in +CONTENTS but not on filesystem!

groff-1.20.1nb2 requires installed package libiconv-1.12nb1

groff-1.20.1nb2 requires installed package perl-5.10.1

groff-1.20.1nb2 requires installed package pkg_install-info-4.5nb3

===> Building binary package for groff-1.20.1nb2

=> Creating binary package /usr/pkgsrc/packages/All/groff-1.20.1nb2.tgz

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/geqn'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/ggrn'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gindxbib'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/glookbib'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gneqn'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gnroff'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gpic'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/grefer'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gsoelim'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gtbl'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/bin/gtroff'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/geqn.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/ggrn.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gindxbib.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/glookbib.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gneqn.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gnroff.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gpic.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/grefer.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gsoelim.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gtbl.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/man/man1/gtroff.1'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gm.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmm.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmmse.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gmse.tmac'

pkg_create: can't stat `/usr/pkg/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/gs.tmac'

pkg_create: lstat failed for file bin/geqn: No such file or directory

*** Error code 2

 

Stop.

bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/textproc/groff

*** Error code 1

 

Stop.

bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/textproc/groff

*** Error code 1

 

Stop.

bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/textproc/groff

 

See http://caracal.fmauneko.eu/files/8debbe18e0587534f9f7c8b43e877c99aaa3ca66.txt for the complete building log

 

Some more informations :

# ls /usr/pkg/bin/geqn

/usr/pkg/bin/geqn: Ce fichier ou ce répertoire n'existe pas

# ls /usr/pkg/bin/g*

/usr/pkg/bin/g3topbm     /usr/pkg/bin/gouldtoppm  /usr/pkg/bin/gs

/usr/pkg/bin/gdiffmk     /usr/pkg/bin/grap2graph  /usr/pkg/bin/gsbj

/usr/pkg/bin/gemtopbm    /usr/pkg/bin/grn         /usr/pkg/bin/gsc

/usr/pkg/bin/gemtopnm    /usr/pkg/bin/grodvi      /usr/pkg/bin/gsdj

/usr/pkg/bin/getafm      /usr/pkg/bin/groff       /usr/pkg/bin/gsdj500

/usr/pkg/bin/gettext     /usr/pkg/bin/groffer     /usr/pkg/bin/gslj

/usr/pkg/bin/gettext.sh  /usr/pkg/bin/grog        /usr/pkg/bin/gslp

/usr/pkg/bin/gif2tiff    /usr/pkg/bin/grolbp      /usr/pkg/bin/gsnd

/usr/pkg/bin/giftopnm    /usr/pkg/bin/grolj4      /usr/pkg/bin/gsx

/usr/pkg/bin/gm4         /usr/pkg/bin/grops

/usr/pkg/bin/gmake       /usr/pkg/bin/grotty

# echo $PATH

/config/bin:/config/bin/ant/bin:/opt/sunstudio12.1/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/pkg/bin:/usr/pkg/sbin

 

I really need help. Thanks

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Manuel Bouyer | 1 Feb 2010 20:39

pkgsrc-2009Q4 sparc binaries available

Hi,
The first round of bulk builds of pkgsrc-2009Q4 on NetBSD/sparc,
4.0.1 and 5.0.1 have completed. The binaries are available from
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/sparc/
This is also mirrored on ftp.fr.netbsd.org and probably others.

As for previous branches, new builds will be launched when pullups to the
stable branch are done.

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