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NetBSD source update | 1 Nov 2004 01:22
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triweekly CVS update output


Updating release-1-5 src tree (netbsd-1-5):

Running the SUP scanner:
SUP Scan for release-1-5 starting at Mon Nov  1 00:05:17 2004
SUP Scan for release-1-5 completed at Mon Nov  1 00:05:29 2004

Updating release-1-6 src tree (netbsd-1-6):

Running the SUP scanner:
SUP Scan for release-1-6 starting at Mon Nov  1 00:14:18 2004
SUP Scan for release-1-6 completed at Mon Nov  1 00:14:35 2004

Updating release-2-0 src tree (netbsd-2-0):

Running the SUP scanner:
SUP Scan for release-2-0 starting at Mon Nov  1 00:21:34 2004
SUP Scan for release-2-0 completed at Mon Nov  1 00:22:49 2004
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Marko Schütz | 1 Nov 2004 01:14
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Re: unofficial poll about new logo

From: "d.zanon <at> infinito.it" <d.zanon <at> infinito.it>
Subject: Re: unofficial poll about new logo
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:30:56 +0000

> On Sunday 31 October 2004 18:31, you wrote:
> > Sean Davis wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:14:47PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> > >>Could someone once more please explain why the BSD Demon wasn't allowed?
> > >>Put that demon in there, and I think it should have worked.
> > >
> > > Because the daemon (not demon) apparently offends christians, according
> > > to
> >
> > I think that should be "may offend some christians". Or, even,
> > "may offend some people".
> 
> Right. If we don't want to offend anyone, we have to use a beautiful white
> circle on a white background. I am Christian, but daemons don't offend me.
> And if they would offend me, I wouldn't do anything. I think the daemon
> was very nice and represented BSD well. The new logo, sorry, doesn't seem
> to mean anything...
> I'd like back the old daemons!

The sad thing is that there seems not much if any symbolism hidden in
the logo. If at least the flagpole was pointing the other
direction... 

Marko
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Kouichirou Hiratsuka | 1 Nov 2004 04:14
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Re: problem with Serial ATA disk on amd64

Hello,

I updated my box from -current/i386 to -current/amd64 but I forgot
to update /dev...  I've updated /dev, then problem has gone.

Thank you for your reply, and sorry for the noise.

best regards.
--

-- 
 Kouichirou Hiratsuka
   hira <at> po6.nsk.ne.jp
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enami tsugutomo | 1 Nov 2004 04:21
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Re: ext2fs support broken in -current

Juergen Hannken-Illjes <hannken <at> NetBSD.org> writes:

> What are the values of vp->v_size and ip->i_size?

It looks like ext2fs dones't use i_size field.

from inode.h:
	/*
	 * Copies from the on-disk dinode itself.
	 *
	 * These fields are currently only used by FFS and LFS,
	 * do NOT use them with ext2fs.
	 */

enami.
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NetBSD source update | 1 Nov 2004 04:35
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daily CVS update output


Updating src tree:
P src/distrib/notes/common/contents
P src/distrib/notes/macppc/hardware
P src/distrib/notes/macppc/install
P src/share/man/man9/spl.9
P src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/fpu.c
P src/sys/arch/sparc64/sparc64/machdep.c
P src/sys/arch/vax/mba/mba.c
P src/sys/arch/vax/vax/autoconf.c
P src/sys/arch/x68k/dev/vsvar.h
P src/sys/arch/x86/include/intr.h
P src/sys/arch/x86/include/lock.h
P src/sys/arch/x86/x86/lock_machdep.c
P src/sys/dev/bi/kdb.c
P src/sys/dev/mscp/mscp.c
P src/sys/dev/mscp/mscp_disk.c
P src/sys/dev/mscp/mscp_tape.c
P src/sys/dev/pci/auich.c
P src/sys/dev/qbus/uda.c
P src/sys/dist/ipf/netinet/ip_fil_netbsd.c
P src/usr.bin/usbhidaction/usbhidaction.c
P src/usr.bin/usbhidctl/usbhid.c

Updating pkgsrc tree:
? pkgsrc/INDEX
? pkgsrc/README-IPv6.html
? pkgsrc/README-all.html
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U pkgsrc/archivers/php-bz2/DESCR
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David Maxwell | 1 Nov 2004 06:47
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Re: unofficial poll about new logo

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, Daniel K?hl Lima wrote:
> Could we see others 399 logos submitted to NetBSD Foundation ? Is it 
> possible ?

I don't think that's an option. TNF doesn't own the rights to the
submissions which were not selected.

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Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek | 1 Nov 2004 09:41
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Re: unofficial poll about new logo

On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 08:30:56PM +0000, d.zanon <at> infinito.it wrote:
> On Sunday 31 October 2004 18:31, you wrote:
> > Sean Davis wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:14:47PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> > >>Could someone once more please explain why the BSD Demon wasn't allowed?
> > >>Put that demon in there, and I think it should have worked.
> > >
> > > Because the daemon (not demon) apparently offends christians, according
> > > to
> >
> > I think that should be "may offend some christians". Or, even,
> > "may offend some people".
> 
> Right. If we don't want to offend anyone, we have to use a beautiful white
> circle on a white background. I am Christian, but daemons don't offend me.
> And if they would offend me, I wouldn't do anything. I think the daemon
> was very nice and represented BSD well. The new logo, sorry, doesn't seem
> to mean anything...
> I'd like back the old daemons!

yes, me too.

Maybe the logo looks quite old by now, but if somebody would paint the
old daemons with the new modern look of the new logo it would be
perfect.

oh, well, logos usually change to the worse. Eventually everything will
have a new modern non-offensive meaningless orange logo.

Or maybe I am too conservative..
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Chris Pinnock | 1 Nov 2004 10:26
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Re: unofficial poll about new logo

On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0500, Sean Davis wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:14:47PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, Piotr Meyer wrote:
> > 
> > >[apologize for cross-post]
> > >
> > >I create very simple, unofficial, poll page. Please, visit
> > >http://smutek.pl/netbsd/ and vote. :)
> > 
> > Could someone once more please explain why the BSD Demon wasn't allowed? 
> > Put that demon in there, and I think it should have worked.
> 
> Because the daemon (not demon) apparently offends christians, according to
> the propaganda used by TNF as a reason for switching logos.

The daemon might offend some Christians - it doesn't offend all. I believe
that the reason for removing it is that ist is associated more with
FreeBSD (but I could be wrong).

Regards,
Chris
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Johnny Billquist | 1 Nov 2004 10:37
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Re: unofficial poll about new logo

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Chris Pinnock wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0500, Sean Davis wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:14:47PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, Piotr Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> [apologize for cross-post]
>>>>
>>>> I create very simple, unofficial, poll page. Please, visit
>>>> http://smutek.pl/netbsd/ and vote. :)
>>>
>>> Could someone once more please explain why the BSD Demon wasn't allowed?
>>> Put that demon in there, and I think it should have worked.
>>
>> Because the daemon (not demon) apparently offends christians, according to
>> the propaganda used by TNF as a reason for switching logos.
>
> The daemon might offend some Christians - it doesn't offend all. I believe
> that the reason for removing it is that ist is associated more with
> FreeBSD (but I could be wrong).

That might be true.
Should we drop the "BSD" moniker from NetBSD as well? After all, people 
might think NetBSD is somehow FreeBSD from that too.

Let's call it NetOS.

 	Johnny

Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
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Martin J. Laubach | 1 Nov 2004 11:14
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Re: dump(8) behaviour

> I always have used "compress none", and I still see the problem.

   Dang. So much for blaming gzip...

	mjl
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