Masao Uebayashi | 5 Feb 18:17 2007
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AsiaBSDCon 2007 timetable is published

The timetable of AsiaBSDCon 2007 has been published.  

	http://asiabsdcon.org/timetable.html

AsiaBSDCon 2007, University of Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan
8 - 11 March, 2007
http://asiabsdcon.org/

AsiaBSDCon is a conference for users and developers on BSD based systems.
The conference is for anyone developing, deploying and using systems based
on FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, DragonFly BSD, Darwin, and MacOS X.
AsiaBSDCon is a technical conference and aims to collect the best technical
papers and presentations available to ensure that the latest developments
in our open source community are shared with the widest possible audience.

Please contact secretary <at> asiabsdcon.org if you have any questions.

Kevin Lahey | 12 Feb 07:10 2007
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NetBSD at SCALE 5x

For the third year in a row, we had a NetBSD booth at the Southern
California Linux Expo (SCALE 5x).  It was a great time, with all sorts
of interesting folks stopping by the booth to chat, and check out the
NetBSD Toaster.

Saturday was great fun, as Jan Schaumann, John Hickey, and I spent the
day working the booth.  Jan flew from San Francisco for the day to
deliver a talk and help out with the booth.  John not only spent the
whole day at it, but made a mid-day run to grab a USB keyboard and loaf
of bread for the toaster.

Sunday was slightly less entertaining, as I found working the booth all
day without any assistance was kind of a bummer.  No props at all to
the NetBSD developer and his girlfriend who failed to show, after I got
extra passes for them to come.

Big thanks to Jeff Rizzo, who hooked me up with a bunch of the NetBSD
booth paraphernalia (and Jan, who carried it down on the plane!).  Huge
thanks to Jesse Off of Technologic Systems who sent me his NetBSD
Toaster, on something like a week's notice. The Toaster was a total hit.

Kevin
kml <at> patheticgeek.net

Jan Schaumann | 12 Feb 20:03 2007

Re: NetBSD at SCALE 5x

Kevin Lahey <kml <at> patheticgeek.net> wrote:
> For the third year in a row, we had a NetBSD booth at the Southern
> California Linux Expo (SCALE 5x).  It was a great time, with all sorts
> of interesting folks stopping by the booth to chat, and check out the
> NetBSD Toaster.

Thanks a lot for manning the booth bravely for the entire weekend,
Keving!  I know it's no fun to be there all by yourself.

A few additional notes:

- The FreeBSD folks were kind enough to give us some of their blinking
  horns, which for reasons I can't quite fathom myself ;-) are
  attracting lots of visitors.

- The toaster remains our main attraction.  We should try to bring more
  hardware to these shows to better show off that we also run on the
  cool new toys.  We should show KDE and GNOME (even if the developers
  manning the booth don't use them) to assure possible converts that
  they can continue to run their applications.

- At least one person complimented us on our logo.  He was a person with
  a design background, and said he was mainly attracted to NetBSD b/c it
  had such a clear logo (compared to the other BSDs).

- We need to keep the flyers up to date.  And we should not just sell
  t-shirts etc., but also consider just offering them for a voluntary
  donation.  (Ie be willing to incur a monetary loss for a marketing
  gain.)

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Aaron J. Grier | 13 Feb 18:28 2007

Re: the path from nathanw_sa -> newlock2

moved from current-users, as advocacy seemed more appropriate.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:01:13PM +0000, Alistair Crooks wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:22:00PM -0800, Aaron J. Grier wrote:
> > any chance for [minutes of core meetings] to be published?  the core
> > list is still opaque to us plebeians.
> 
> The minutes of the core team meetings are distributed internally to
> the project - there hasn't really been a need in the past to make them
> any more public than that. Not that we're trying to be opaque, just
> that no-one's asked.

the CVS updates bulletins are great; something along those lines for
core traffic would be fantastic.  I'm not asking for complete
transparency, but some periodic translucency would be extremely welcome.
quarterly reports instead of yearly, perhaps?

> As to M:N being fixable, we asked the developer in question if he
> wanted to fix them, but we were told that time was an issue which
> would not be rectified any time soon, and so we decided to proceed
> with the 1:1 work in newlock2 which Andrew was proposing.

thanks.  that's what I wanted to hear.

> Finally, a huge thanks from me to Andrew for undertaking this work - a
> huge task, a truly excellent effort, and the final product deserving
> of many beers, which I'm sure he'll collect fairly soon.

indeed.  I'll build up -current for my sparcs now...

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Jeremy C. Reed | 13 Feb 19:48 2007
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Re: Force10 Networks uses NetBSD to build Software Scalability into FTOS Operating System

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Hubert Feyrer wrote:

> NEW YORK CITY, February 13, 2007: The NetBSD Foundation today
> announced that Force10 Networks(R), the pioneer in building and
> securing high performance networks, has leveraged NetBSD(R) as the
> foundation for the Force10 Operating System (FTOS). Based on the open
> source UNIX-like system, FTOS provides the software scalability and
> resiliency that powers the Force10 TeraScale E-Series(R) family of
> switch/routers.

Hubert,

Thanks for all your great work on this news.

Does anyone else know of uses of NetBSD that should be highlighted like 
this? Please let us know!

  Jeremy C. Reed

Stephen Borrill | 14 Feb 10:30 2007
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Re: Force10 Networks uses NetBSD to build Software Scalability into FTOS Operating System

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Hubert Feyrer wrote:
>
>> NEW YORK CITY, February 13, 2007: The NetBSD Foundation today
>> announced that Force10 Networks(R), the pioneer in building and
>> securing high performance networks, has leveraged NetBSD(R) as the
>> foundation for the Force10 Operating System (FTOS). Based on the open
>> source UNIX-like system, FTOS provides the software scalability and
>> resiliency that powers the Force10 TeraScale E-Series(R) family of
>> switch/routers.
>
> Hubert,
>
> Thanks for all your great work on this news.

Not a question for -advocacy I know, but we sell NetBSD-based Internet 
servers and using them for routing and bridging. On any decent-sized 
network, we have real issues with nmbcluster exhaustion especially when 
doing bridging (or when clients have blaster-type viruses or people have 
created network loops). Makes me wonder how these people use this in 
serious dedicated applications. It seems like it's an easy DoS attack.

> Does anyone else know of uses of NetBSD that should be highlighted like
> this? Please let us know!

On a more positive note, I could mention http://www.fastclients.co.uk/

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Stephen

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Manuel Bouyer | 15 Feb 22:20 2007

Re: Force10 Networks uses NetBSD to build Software Scalability into FTOS Operating System

On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:30:03AM +0000, Stephen Borrill wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> >On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Hubert Feyrer wrote:
> >
> >>NEW YORK CITY, February 13, 2007: The NetBSD Foundation today
> >>announced that Force10 Networks(R), the pioneer in building and
> >>securing high performance networks, has leveraged NetBSD(R) as the
> >>foundation for the Force10 Operating System (FTOS). Based on the open
> >>source UNIX-like system, FTOS provides the software scalability and
> >>resiliency that powers the Force10 TeraScale E-Series(R) family of
> >>switch/routers.
> >
> >Hubert,
> >
> >Thanks for all your great work on this news.
> 
> Not a question for -advocacy I know, but we sell NetBSD-based Internet 
> servers and using them for routing and bridging. On any decent-sized 
> network, we have real issues with nmbcluster exhaustion especially when 
> doing bridging (or when clients have blaster-type viruses or people have 
> created network loops). Makes me wonder how these people use this in 
> serious dedicated applications. It seems like it's an easy DoS attack.

Just ajdust NMBCLUSTERS for your application :)

--

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Manuel Bouyer <bouyer <at> antioche.eu.org>
     NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
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Stephen Borrill | 15 Feb 22:52 2007
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Re: Force10 Networks uses NetBSD to build Software Scalability into FTOS Operating System

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
>> Not a question for -advocacy I know, but we sell NetBSD-based Internet
>> servers and using them for routing and bridging. On any decent-sized
>> network, we have real issues with nmbcluster exhaustion especially when
>> doing bridging (or when clients have blaster-type viruses or people have
>> created network loops). Makes me wonder how these people use this in
>> serious dedicated applications. It seems like it's an easy DoS attack.
>
> Just ajdust NMBCLUSTERS for your application :)

It's up to 16384 at one site which seems high to me.

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Stephen

Manuel Bouyer | 15 Feb 22:59 2007

Re: Force10 Networks uses NetBSD to build Software Scalability into FTOS Operating System

On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:52:04PM +0000, Stephen Borrill wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
> >>Not a question for -advocacy I know, but we sell NetBSD-based Internet
> >>servers and using them for routing and bridging. On any decent-sized
> >>network, we have real issues with nmbcluster exhaustion especially when
> >>doing bridging (or when clients have blaster-type viruses or people have
> >>created network loops). Makes me wonder how these people use this in
> >>serious dedicated applications. It seems like it's an easy DoS attack.
> >
> >Just ajdust NMBCLUSTERS for your application :)
> 
> It's up to 16384 at one site which seems high to me.

It depends on the underlying hardware. 16384 is "only" 32MB RAM.

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Manuel Bouyer <bouyer <at> antioche.eu.org>
     NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
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Jan Schaumann | 20 Feb 01:06 2007

FOSSCON 2007

Hi all,

At SCALE this year, Christel Dahlskjaer approached us regarding the
upcoming FOSSCON to take place in September in San Diego, CA.  It seems
the website about FOSSCON is up (http://fosscon.org/), but the CfP has
not yet been issued.

Either way, if you're interested in giving a talk about NetBSD at this
conference, keep an eye open for the CfP.  Also, if you would like to
volunteer to help man a NetBSD booth, please send mail here so we can
coordinate efforts.

-Jan

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   like eleventeen, thirty-twelve, and all those ...
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Gmane