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Sean Davis | 1 Apr 2005 11:53
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Re: GPL violations

On Mar 31, 2005 10:05 AM, Geert Hendrickx <geert.hendrickx <at> ua.ac.be> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 05:43:04PM +0300, Mike M. Volokhov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > in the following article shown, how open-source developer Harald Welte,
> > one of core devopers of netfilter/iptables, personally handed warning
> > letters to 13 technology companies that he says are using Linux in
> > violation of the license that governs the software.
> >
> >       http://news.com.com/Defender+of+the+Linux+faith/2100-7344_3-5625667.html
> >
> > At the end of article Welte says about some benefits of BSD license vs GPL:
> >
> > ``ZDNet UK: How do you think the GPL compares with other licenses?
> >
> > Welte: It's a philosophical question. The BSD licence allows you to
> > integrate and modify without giving back modifications, while GPL
> > expects you to give back modifications. These are two philosophies of
> > how you develop software. Which you chose depends on the project. For
> > example, if you have a new standard and want it to spread quickly, it's
> > better to use the BSD licence, rather than the GPL.''
> 
> I usually summarize it like this:
> 
> GPL-guy: "Aargh, they used my code! :-/"
> BSD-guy: "Cool, they used my code! :-)"

That has to be the best way of putting it that I've EVER read. So, is
your message BSD or GPL? So will you be like Aargh, he quoted my
message, or Cool, he quoted my message, when I quote your message? :-P
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Geert Hendrickx | 1 Apr 2005 12:08
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Re: GPL violations

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:53:05AM -0500, Sean Davis wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2005 10:05 AM, Geert Hendrickx <geert.hendrickx <at> ua.ac.be> wrote:
> > I usually summarize it like this:
> > 
> > GPL-guy: "Aargh, they used my code! :-/"
> > BSD-guy: "Cool, they used my code! :-)"
> 
> That has to be the best way of putting it that I've EVER read. So, is
> your message BSD or GPL? So will you be like Aargh, he quoted my
> message, or Cool, he quoted my message, when I quote your message? :-P

Cool, he quoted my message! 8-)  

GH

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Geert Hendrickx | 3 Apr 2005 10:51
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Re: NetBSD 2 vs the rest with MySQL

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:45:22PM +0100, Frank van der Linden wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:20:38PM -0800, Jason Thorpe wrote:
> > >Hm.. is this a threaded test? It looks like it. If so, the lack of
> > >PTHREAD_CONCURRENCY > 1 explains the crappy 2-CPU results.
> > 
> > I would definitely suggest to the author of the article to increase 
> > PTHREAD_CONCURRENCY for his tests and run them again.
> 
> Yeah, I dropped him a note. I'm curious how well it will perform
> (if stable). I'm glad to see that we kick ass in the single-CPU
> case.

Have these benchmarks be re-run yet?  The author promised to do so, and
post the results, but I haven't heard anything about it anymore.  Which
is a pity.  

GH

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Matthew Mondor | 3 Apr 2005 18:58

Re: NetBSD 2 vs the rest with MySQL

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:51:47 +0200
"Geert Hendrickx" <geert.hendrickx <at> ua.ac.be> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:45:22PM +0100, Frank van der Linden wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:20:38PM -0800, Jason Thorpe wrote:
> > > >Hm.. is this a threaded test? It looks like it. If so, the lack of
> > > >PTHREAD_CONCURRENCY > 1 explains the crappy 2-CPU results.
> > > 
> > > I would definitely suggest to the author of the article to increase 
> > > PTHREAD_CONCURRENCY for his tests and run them again.
> > 
> > Yeah, I dropped him a note. I'm curious how well it will perform
> > (if stable). I'm glad to see that we kick ass in the single-CPU
> > case.
> 
> Have these benchmarks be re-run yet?  The author promised to do so, and
> post the results, but I haven't heard anything about it anymore.  Which
> is a pity.  

Chuck Silvers worked on the case and posted updates on
tech-kern <at> netbsd.org mailing list from time to time, maybe look through
its archives under topics:

"more on mysql benchmarks"
"direct I/O"

As for the site, I don't think any new mesurements were publically
posted yet

Matt
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Sean J. Schluntz | 9 Apr 2005 07:23

NetBSD related domains free to a good home.

A year ago or so I picked up netbsdcookbook.net/com/org for the hope of 
eventually putting together, well, a cookbook type of documents for 
NetBSD.  As is usual, life and work have gotten in the way.  Two of 
them expire in a year, one expires in a month.
 
I can just let them expire, but I though it would be better to first 
see if there was anyone who might want them for their own use before a 
squatter nabs them.
 
Just send me a private mail and we can talk.  I'm not looking to get 
anything out of this, just want them to go somewhere where they will be 
used.
 
-Sean

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Hubert Feyrer | 9 Apr 2005 19:42
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Mike Cheponis | 10 Apr 2005 06:40
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NetBSD on Sony PSP?

I just wondered if anybody has gotten NetBSD running on the Sony PSP game h/w?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/psplinux/

-Mike
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Simon Burge | 10 Apr 2005 08:06

Re: NetBSD on Sony PSP?

Mike Cheponis wrote:

> I just wondered if anybody has gotten NetBSD running on the Sony PSP game h/w?
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/psplinux/

From a quick glance at the psplinux site, it would seem that any free OS
is going to be a while before it's running if there's no known method of
actually executing your own code.

Simon.
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Chuck Silvers | 10 Apr 2005 17:22
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Re: NetBSD 2 vs the rest with MySQL

On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 10:51:47AM +0200, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:45:22PM +0100, Frank van der Linden wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:20:38PM -0800, Jason Thorpe wrote:
> > > >Hm.. is this a threaded test? It looks like it. If so, the lack of
> > > >PTHREAD_CONCURRENCY > 1 explains the crappy 2-CPU results.
> > > 
> > > I would definitely suggest to the author of the article to increase 
> > > PTHREAD_CONCURRENCY for his tests and run them again.
> > 
> > Yeah, I dropped him a note. I'm curious how well it will perform
> > (if stable). I'm glad to see that we kick ass in the single-CPU
> > case.
> 
> Have these benchmarks be re-run yet?  The author promised to do so, and
> post the results, but I haven't heard anything about it anymore.  Which
> is a pity.  

tony has posted an addendum to his benchmark articles on his blog:

http://vegan.net/tony/blog/index.php?Type=Article&ArticleID=2

-Chuck
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Hubert Feyrer | 10 Apr 2005 22:50
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Re: NetBSD on Sony PSP?

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Simon Burge wrote:
>> From a quick glance at the psplinux site, it would seem that any free OS
> is going to be a while before it's running if there's no known method of
> actually executing your own code.

Plus parts of NetBSD are shipped by Sony on the PSP out of the box.
http://www.scei.co.jp/psp-license/pspnet.txt

  - Hubert

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