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Google Kreme | 1 May 2005 01:23
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Re: abortion blocked in Florida

On 30 Apr 2005, at 16:00 :16, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> "A pregnant 13-year-old girl in Florida has been told she cannot  
> have an abortion because she lacks the maturity to make such a  
> decision"
>
> Yet she does have the maturity to bring a baby into the world, look  
> after it...

Ain't America great?

She should sue the state for child support.

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Kevin Callahan | 1 May 2005 01:31
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Re: abortion blocked in Florida


On Apr 30, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Google Kreme wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2005, at 16:00 :16, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
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>> "A pregnant 13-year-old girl in Florida has been told she cannot  
>> have an abortion because she lacks the maturity to make such a  
>> decision"
>>
>> Yet she does have the maturity to bring a baby into the world,  
>> look after it...
>>
>
> Ain't America great?

it's certainly gotten a LOT worse in 4+ years.

>
> She should sue the state for child support.
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Jared 'Danger' Earle | 1 May 2005 03:44
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Re: Xah's edu corner: A Love of Torture

Xah Lee wrote:
> Recently i went to watch the movie Kill Bill. On the most popular movie 
> site the Internet Movie Database imdb.com , it is rated 8.2 out of 10, 
> climbing fastly into and among the top 100 movies of all times. The 
> movie is about one female assasin's revenge over her colleagues, and 
> that's about all the story line there is. The movie's popularity can be 
> attributed simply to the realistic depiction of gruesome decapitation 
> and mayhem by good looking female at good looking female.

You are so fucking thick it's funny. No, no and no.

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Jonathan G. Ballard | 1 May 2005 10:03
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Re: abortion blocked in Florida

I rarely jump in on these kind of threads, but it IS nutters, and I 
just got in from a long night, which included drinking, so here 
goes....
On Apr 30, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:

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> On Apr 30, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Google Kreme wrote:
>
>> On 30 Apr 2005, at 16:00 :16, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
>>
>>> "A pregnant 13-year-old girl in Florida has been told she cannot 
>>> have an abortion because she lacks the maturity to make such a 
>>> decision"
>>>
>>> Yet she does have the maturity to bring a baby into the world, look 
>>> after it...
>>>
>>
>> Ain't America great?
>

Abortion issues aside, it's a general rule in the American legal system 
that minors are incompetent to make legal decisions.  Let a 13 year old 
say she needs breast implants, or an appendectomy, and they all need 
parental/guardian approval absent emergency situations (although I 
can't now think of an emergency wherein one would need breast 
implants).  Hell, my brother got out of a ridiculous contract with a 
workout gym because he was 17 when he signed it (they apparently didn't 
notice).  So it's no surprise to me that a state would tell a minor 
that she needs parental permission to do a medical procedure.
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Kevin Callahan | 1 May 2005 18:47
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U.S. relying on regime notorious for torture?

<http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/ 
2002259115_rend01.html>

Chuck, you can defend that, right?

K

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Google Kreme | 1 May 2005 18:52
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Re: abortion blocked in Florida

On 1 May 2005, at 02:03 :16, Jonathan G. Ballard wrote:
> Abortion issues aside, it's a general rule in the American legal  
> system that minors are incompetent to make legal decisions.

The irony is the "too young to NOT have a baby" position she's been  
placed in.

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Matt Johnston | 1 May 2005 19:06
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Re: U.S. relying on regime notorious for torture?


On 1 May 2005, at 17:47, Kevin Callahan wrote:

> <http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/ 
> 2002259115_rend01.html>
>
> Chuck, you can defend that, right?

It's all part of the puzzle.

Step 1. Find somewhere to attack. (iRaq)
Step 2. Find somewhere to torture prisoners (Uzbekistan)
Step 3. Find someone who will make and export torture implements (UK)

Makes sense....
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Shawn Erickson | 1 May 2005 19:08
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Apple hosts lists not sending?

Is it just me or are the Apple hosts lists not sending emails out?

(looks like even the archives are not getting updated)

They down for an update, etc.?

-Shawn
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Stefano Mori | 1 May 2005 19:20
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Re: U.S. relying on regime notorious for torture?


On 2005-May-01, at 18:06, Matt Johnston wrote:

> Find somewhere...
> Find somewhere...
> Find someone...
>
> Makes sense....

Whatever the problem, outsource?  [1]

Stefano

[1] And the only reason India isn't on the list is that they're too 
decent?

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Scott Stevenson | 1 May 2005 19:25

Re: Apple hosts lists not sending?


On May 1, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote:

> Is it just me or are the Apple hosts lists not sending emails out?
>
> (looks like even the archives are not getting updated)
>
> They down for an update, etc.?

Looks fine here.

But we certainly know who to harass if they aren't working.

    - Scott

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