Jeff Sickel | 1 Feb 07:57 2010

Re: Color depth


On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:

>> I once wondered why appl/charon/[chutils,img] wasn't relocated to
>> a more generic module that the likes of wm/view could then be
>> adapted to use.
> 
> it was talked about. there is only one thing worse than being talked
> about, and that's the work not being done.
> 
> certainly a better version of imagefile should be in a library module,
> not specially buried in charon, since there are indeed other plausible
> applications that could use it. the interface could possibly use some attention.

I don't have that many spare cycles for extra projects at the moment.  But I would like to help in this regard if
at all possible.  Is there any way we could coordinate a few individuals to actually set forth requirements
and implement changes like these?

-jas

Nikolai Saoukh | 1 Feb 10:26 2010

Re: Color depth

> I don't have that many spare cycles for extra projects at the moment.  But I would like to help in this
regard if at all possible.  Is there any way we could coordinate a few individuals to actually set forth
requirements and implement changes like these?

inferno-os at google code?

EBo | 2 Feb 08:49 2010

GSoC announcement, etc.


Hello,

I thought I would let everyone know that an announcement for Google's Summer
of Code has gone out:

http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f

If I read the announcement correctly, applications for mentoring organizations
is only open for 4 days and student applications are open for about 11 days. 

My current research is in multiscale integrative modeling and would likely
interface well with the Zeroconf Networking, Ventilator, or Glendix project
ideas listed on http://gsoc.cat-v.org/ideas/.  To start gearing up for GSoC
and dust off some old skills I developed gentoo portage ebuilds for the kernel
patches.  These have just passed review for inclusion into Gentoo's Sunrise
overlay in sys-kernel/glendix-sources.  I would like to start discussions on
various projects to see what might be the best fit. Is there a list of people
who would be willing to mentor a GSoC student?  

Let me know what I can do to help move forward on both the organization and
personal applications.

  Thanks and best regards,

  John (EBo) David --

Charles Forsyth | 2 Feb 09:48 2010
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Re: Color depth

>Is there any way we could coordinate a few individuals to actually set forth requirements and implement
changes like these?

google wave?

Noah Evans | 2 Feb 09:56 2010
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Re: Color depth

inferno-npe has sort of become the de facto public development tree.
I've added you to the committers list. If your google account is
different from your list email just send me an update.

Likewise, anybody interested in contributing should feel free to send
me or any of the other inferno-npe administrators a mail to be added
to the committers list.

Noah

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Jeff Sickel <jas@...> wrote:
>
> On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
>>> I once wondered why appl/charon/[chutils,img] wasn't relocated to
>>> a more generic module that the likes of wm/view could then be
>>> adapted to use.
>>
>> it was talked about. there is only one thing worse than being talked
>> about, and that's the work not being done.
>>
>> certainly a better version of imagefile should be in a library module,
>> not specially buried in charon, since there are indeed other plausible
>> applications that could use it. the interface could possibly use some attention.
>
> I don't have that many spare cycles for extra projects at the moment.  But I would like to help in this
regard if at all possible.  Is there any way we could coordinate a few individuals to actually set forth
requirements and implement changes like these?
>
> -jas
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C H Forsyth | 2 Feb 11:13 2010

Re: Color depth

	``I'd like to revert most of the fiddly big parts of the system back to working with little languages rather
than complicated adt based apis.''

I wasn't sure what was meant by the first part of that sentence.

fgergo | 2 Feb 15:51 2010
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totally OT: Google Wave - collaboration (was: Re: Color depth)

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@...> wrote:
>>Is there any way we could coordinate a few individuals to actually set forth requirements and implement
changes like these?
>
> google wave?

After using wave lightly for a few weeks for keeping some ideas
private and sharing some with friends, I find the planned  "Save/Put
each character" feature suggesting a - probably unplanned, but
nevertheless - "warm and cosy" reliability feeling. (Yes, I also
think, that trusting google your content is a totally different
issue.)
Although I can hardly imagine using it for collaboration (concurrently
editing documents, aka chating) _as advertised_. It not only looks
ridiculous in the video, we tried it and it is ridiculous. Although I
have to admit, that most of the time this type of "collaboration"
diverts into a fun war-typing (new word?) game. I think wave needs new
conventions to be usable as advertised.
On the other hand, I can imagine using wave as a front-end for some
collaboration based applications.

Andrew Wingorodov | 6 Feb 10:32 2010
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Re: totally OT: Google Wave - collaboration (was: Re: Color depth)

>> google wave?

I do not see innovation into that. Just another just steep chat.
Client-server is a dead-end road of development networking. The future
for P2P-protocols and distributed data repositories. JavaScript is a
slow and complicated environment. Translated from Java into JavaScript
can not be a good technical solution for the economy always are finite
resources.

Idea as always good. Implementing serve no purpose. After all, the
Federation once lost already. Southerners want to take revenge? :)

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andr.mobi

- - | 7 Feb 03:28 2010
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Re: Re: totally OT: Google Wave - collaboration (was: Re: Color depth)

# -- server limbo prog --- VVV -------------------------

implement hw_nc2;

include "sys.m";
include "draw.m";

sys : Sys;

wdir := "/n/-";

hw_nc2: module
{
    init:    fn(ctxt: ref Draw->Context, argv: list of string);
};

init(nil: ref Draw->Context, nil: list of string)
{

    sys = load Sys Sys->PATH;

    sys->bind("#s", wdir, Sys->MREPL);
    ioch := sys->file2chan(wdir, "ch");
    spawn read_write(ioch);
}

read_write(ch : ref Sys->FileIO)
{
    while(1){
        alt {
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David Leimbach | 8 Feb 16:19 2010
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Re: totally OT: Google Wave - collaboration (was: Re: Color depth)



On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Andrew Wingorodov <mail <at> andr.ru> wrote:
>> google wave?

I do not see innovation into that. Just another just steep chat.
Client-server is a dead-end road of development networking. The future
for P2P-protocols and distributed data repositories. JavaScript is a
slow and complicated environment. Translated from Java into JavaScript
can not be a good technical solution for the economy always are finite
resources.

Idea as always good. Implementing serve no purpose. After all, the
Federation once lost already. Southerners want to take revenge? :)

I agree with you from a technical standpoint, that Javascript in a browser is not the peer to peer system we were looking for.  It is, however, the peer to peer system we get to have used most ubiquitously.  As we 9fans, and Inferno people know, the best technology isn't always the winner.

So we can try to change everyone's minds, or we can suck it up and play ball with the rest of them.  I think it takes a little of both to get people to see why one way is better than the other.

Dave
 

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andr.mobi


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