Re: Git (was:Mercurial (was: Patch format))

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:00:59 -0500, Ryan Leavengood <leavengood@...>
wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Niels Reedijk <niels.reedijk@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> If by wrong you mean not looking beyond the end of your nose, then
yeah.
> 
> I am not sure if you are aware, but the way you phrased your sentence
> is needlessly rude. Let's try not to treat fairly reasonable questions
> with such disrespect.

+1, Niels, you did open that can of worms in public.

Andreas, I tried playing around with hg a while back and had endless
issues with stuff like that...  my personal opinion is if the scm is that
easy to break it usually causes more fuss then what it's worth. Just use
git.. it's better :P

I noticed that http://git.haiku-os.org/ is pretty outdated, are there any
plans out there to make it more live?  I could do some really cool
animations showing the committer activity if there was an up-to-date git
repo.  (locally, git-svn always chokes for me for some reason around
r11000)

--Alex

Re: Git (was:Mercurial (was: Patch format))

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Alex von Gluck <kallisti5@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed that http://git.haiku-os.org/ is pretty outdated, are there any
> plans out there to make it more live?  I could do some really cool
> animations showing the committer activity if there was an up-to-date git
> repo.  (locally, git-svn always chokes for me for some reason around
> r11000)

I'm not sure what the situation is with http://git.haiku-os.org, but
Travis Geiselbrecht maintains a Git repo mirroring Haiku's trunk and
buildtools SVN here:

http://git.newos.org/

Starting from that should save you a lot of pain versus trying to pull
down 35000+ SVN revisions.

We could probably talk with Travis to see if he was OK with us
advertising that on the Haiku site. Though the fact that it is out
there in the wild means he probably expects it to be used.

--

-- 
Regards,
Ryan

Re: Git (was:Mercurial (was: Patch format))

Re: R1alpha 2 : time to get the ball rolling ?

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:01, PulkoMandy <pulkomandy@...> wrote:
....
> This message is an attempt to get such an effort started. So, below is a
> proposal for such a milestone set. It may or may not suit you, so feel free
> to improve on it.
>
> R1 alpha 2 :
...
>  * ACPI enabled by default, in order to get it some exposure. Of course it
> needs to be tested in dev. builds for some time before, and maybe give an
> option to disable it in the bootloader ?

Looking back. ACPI could be analogous to the IDE vs ATA driver
situation.  We really won't know how and who it'll affect without
enabling it in default images. So ... can we flip the switch now as
opposed to later?

--mmadia

Re: Mercurial (was: Patch format)

On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:04:16AM +0100, Niels Reedijk wrote:
> On 1 March 2010 00:00, Ryan Leavengood <leavengood@...> wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Niels Reedijk
<niels.reedijk@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> If by wrong you mean not looking beyond the end of your nose, then yeah.
> >
> > I am not sure if you are aware, but the way you phrased your sentence
> > is needlessly rude. Let's try not to treat fairly reasonable questions
> > with such disrespect.
> 
> I think it is unnecessary to voice that response on a mailing list.

I don't think it was at all unnecessary, because I would have posted
a similar comment if Ryan hadn't.  Rudeness is totally unwelcome here.

		-- Pete --

Re: R1alpha 2 : time to get the ball rolling ?

2010/3/1 Matt Madia <mattmadia@...>:

>>  * ACPI enabled by default, in order to get it some exposure. Of course it
>> needs to be tested in dev. builds for some time before, and maybe give an
>> option to disable it in the bootloader ?
>
> Looking back. ACPI could be analogous to the IDE vs ATA driver
> situation.  We really won't know how and who it'll affect without
> enabling it in default images. So ... can we flip the switch now as
> opposed to later?
>

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with Matt. BTW there is already an
option to disable it in the boot loader.

Re: R1alpha 2 : time to get the ball rolling ?

On 2010-03-01 at 08:12:12 [+0100], Stefano Ceccherini 
<stefano.ceccherini@...> wrote:
> 2010/3/1 Matt Madia <mattmadia@...>:
> 
> >>  * ACPI enabled by default, in order to get it some exposure. Of course 
> >>  it
> >> needs to be tested in dev. builds for some time before, and maybe give an
> >> option to disable it in the bootloader ?
> >
> > Looking back. ACPI could be analogous to the IDE vs ATA driver
> > situation.  We really won't know how and who it'll affect without
> > enabling it in default images. So ... can we flip the switch now as
> > opposed to later?
> >
> 
> Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with Matt. BTW there is already an
> option to disable it in the boot loader.

I am not opposed to that, but just thought I'd throw in that with ATA, we at 
least tried to fix all known issues before flipping the switch. If memory 
doesn't fail me, that is... I haven't updated my T60 in a while, but ACPI 
worked reliably there. On my desktop, I have the problem that shutting down 
works half of the time, the other half I have to press the power button a 
long time until I force shutdown the BIOS.

Best regards,
-Stephan

Re: Git (was:Mercurial (was: Patch format))

Hi,

On 1 March 2010 02:58, Ryan Leavengood <leavengood@...> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Alex von Gluck <kallisti5@...> wrote:
>>
>> I noticed that http://git.haiku-os.org/ is pretty outdated, are there any
>> plans out there to make it more live?  I could do some really cool
>> animations showing the committer activity if there was an up-to-date git
>> repo.  (locally, git-svn always chokes for me for some reason around
>> r11000)
>
> I'm not sure what the situation is with http://git.haiku-os.org, but
> Travis Geiselbrecht maintains a Git repo mirroring Haiku's trunk and
> buildtools SVN here:
>
> http://git.newos.org/
>
> Starting from that should save you a lot of pain versus trying to pull
> down 35000+ SVN revisions.
>
> We could probably talk with Travis to see if he was OK with us
> advertising that on the Haiku site. Though the fact that it is out
> there in the wild means he probably expects it to be used.

The git.haiku-os.org is a project of mine, obviously it is not
finished yet. The reason it is on hold is because I have to get in
touch with Travis (which I have not done until now), because I guess
there are already many check outs of the git tree and I want to see
whether it is possible to migrate it to our server (and whether Travis
wants to work with that) so that people don't have to do new check
outs.

As I said, the project is on hold right now.

As for advertising it, I would argue against that. It is currently as
experimental and unsupported as our Mercurial mirror, so in that sense
it should be under wraps from an official perspective. I would not
mind advertising (preferably both options) in a blog post though.

N>

Re: Mercurial (was: Patch format)

Come on guys! At least have the decency to scape goat me in the same
way you would like me to formulate my misinterpreted messages.

I am not going to defend myself here in public as it is unnecessary.
If Andreas feels offended, please speak up. But I am not answering to
a group of non-existing moderators.

Regards,

N>

Re: Mercurial (was: Patch format)

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 08:10, Niels Reedijk <niels.reedijk@...> wrote:
> If Andreas feels offended, please speak up.

I am asking everyone else to refrain from commenting.

It is important to keep our energies where they belong : pushing
forward with R1/Alpha2 and other productive discussions.

Thanks.