Dario Freni | 1 Mar 18:34 2004

[CVS Update of /freesbie/files - M:1 A:0 R:0]


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Update of /freesbie/files

Modified Files:
	freesbie_1st 
Log Message:
We don't need /usr uncompressed anymore...

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Bingel, Michael | 2 Mar 13:01 2004
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RE: FreeSBIE-1.0-i386 Released

FreeSBIE may experience a little Slashdot effect, as the German computer magazine c't just noted your release announcement on their website.

It would not be the first time that real Slashdot.org picks up the story and you will get A LOT of visitors and traffic...

German newsticker note:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/45170

Babelfish english translation is here:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?tt=url&lp=de_en&url=http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/45170


cheers,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Dario Freni [mailto:saturnero <at> gufi.org]
Sent: Sonntag, 29. Februar 2004 01:51
To: freesbie <at> gufi.org
Cc: freebsd-hackers <at> freebsd.org; freebsd-chat <at> freebsd.org
Subject: FreeSBIE-1.0-i386 Released


The FreeSBIE project is proud to announce the release of FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso

FreeSBIE is a bootable CD with the FreeBSD operating system and a collection of software to address the needs of an etherogeneus public.

FreeSBIE-1.0 is based on FreeBSD 5.2.1 for the ia32 platform, and has a hardware recognition system which lets it find automagically all the peripherals supported on FreeBSD 5.2.1.

FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso is the result of the toolkit provided for FreeBSD, and is released to show the power of the operating system and of FreeSBIE itself.

FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso is addressed to the following categories of users:

- System Administrators;
- Developers;
- Final users;

With FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso it is possible to satisfy users who:

- have the need for multimedia applications;
- make deep network analysis;
- have problems with damaged or unusable FreeBSD installations;
- want to test new FreeBSD functionalities;
- need a completely functional FreeBSD system;
- want to illustrate and/or release a product based on FreeBSD;
- need the power of FreeBSD but don't have the immediate chance to
  install it/configure it.

FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso is also designed for day-to-day use through a collection of programs which come with it, thought for a typical workstation use:

- Evolution as Personal Information Manager;
- Gaim as Instant Messenger;
- Pan as newsreader;
- XMMS and MPlayer as multimedia players;
- XChat as IRC client

For a complete list of available applications on FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso, check the file FreeSBIE-1.0-pkgs.txt available on our FTP sites (see below). When choosing the applications we tried to address both the needs of the desktop users and console users. In fact we give you the chance to use Mutt, as well as Evolution, and together with Firefox we provide links, while with XChat we offer irssi.

Those interested in downloading our software, can find FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso on the following FTP sites:
       
ftp://ftp.freesbie.org 
ftp://ftp2.freesbie.org


The main website for the FreeSBIE toolkit is:

http://www.FreeSBIE.org

where you can also find some more explicative screenshots.

Our thanks for the help provided goes to:
All the ones who are excluded from this list;
All the authors of the included packages;
The FreeBSD Team (http://www.FreeBSD.org);
The Italian FreeBSD Users Group (http://www.gufi.org); nocomp <at> d173.com for the hardware donated; fjoe <at> FreeBSD.org for the cloop utility FreeBSD port (compressed

filesystem)


FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso will surely not be error-prone, wanted or not, but it's a 1.0 release, and as such please beg our pardon for our mistakes. To contact the members of the FreeSBIE project, we invite you to visit the project's website in the "contacts" section.

Some programs included are released under the GPL license. The related sources can be found on the homepages of the rispected projects.

The FreeSBIE project remains open to suggestions, developments and observations. Hoping to have created a usable product, efficient and satisfying for your needs, we wish you

a great fun with FreeSBIE,
The FreeSBIE project

Filippo | 3 Mar 10:52 2004
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(Fwd) Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent


------- Forwarded message follows -------
From:           	Filippo Moriggia <filimori <at> yahoo.com>
To:             	Robert Citek <rwcitek <at> alum.calberkeley.org>
Subject:        	Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent
Send reply to:  	filimori <at> tin.it
Date sent:      	Wed, 03 Mar 2004 09:47:06 +0100

I think it could really be a good idea... Now that the project is out 
with a 1.0 release is even more important, as the ftp servers are 
busy... but to do that, we need:
- a tracker
- a couple of seeders with a really good connection.

I don't have the tracker and I only have a dsl connection....

Nobody on the mailing list picked up the idea and said: I'm here, I 
can be the tracker and/or the seeder...

What do you think about that? do you think you can help?

Bye

Robert Citek, martedì 2 marzo 2004 alle 18:11,  wrote:

> Hello Filippo,
> 
> I saw your e-mail about setting up a BitTorrent for FreeSBIE:
>    http://www.gufi.org/ricerca.php3?mode=show&id=gufi:freesbie:581
> 
> Using BitTorrent is a great idea.
> 
> Regards,
> - Robert

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Dario Freni | 3 Mar 11:17 2004

Re: (Fwd) Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:52:52 +0100
"Filippo " <filimori <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> From:           	Filippo Moriggia <filimori <at> yahoo.com>
> To:             	Robert Citek <rwcitek <at> alum.calberkeley.org>
> Subject:        	Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent
> Send reply to:  	filimori <at> tin.it
> Date sent:      	Wed, 03 Mar 2004 09:47:06 +0100
> 
> 
> I think it could really be a good idea... Now that the project is out 
> with a 1.0 release is even more important, as the ftp servers are 
> busy... but to do that, we need:
> - a tracker
> - a couple of seeders with a really good connection.
> 
> I don't have the tracker and I only have a dsl connection....
> 
> Nobody on the mailing list picked up the idea and said: I'm here, I 
> can be the tracker and/or the seeder...
> 
> What do you think about that? do you think you can help?
> 
> Bye

  I know almost nothing about this topic. I just received a mail from
Janne Johansson pointing me to this:

http://people.su.se/~jj/FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso.torrent

  Shall I publish it?

Bye,
Dario

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Filippo | 3 Mar 11:58 2004
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Re: (Fwd) Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent


I've downloaded the torrent and i'm trying to download it. It works. 
I see there is only 1 seeder (probably the person who created the 
torrent), so maybe after the publishing of the link it could happen 
to have a slow download for the first hours, at least since there are 
some more seeders. A good idea could be if someone has just 
downloaded the iso to seed it (you only need to have bittorrent 
installed in windows and to select the file you have just downloaded 
when it asks a place to save the file; same thing, but maybe more 
tricky if you have Linux or Freebsd (need python installed)).

I don't think the person who sent you the link is seeding an iso 
corrupted or different from the original, but doing a seed could also 
check that. I haven't already downloaded the iso so I can't do that.

If you publish the link anyway you will get the real advantages of 
bittorrent: faster downloads as more people are downloading...

Bye

Dario Freni, mercoledì 3 marzo 2004 alle 11:17,  aveva scritto:
>   I know almost nothing about this topic. I just received a mail from
> Janne Johansson pointing me to this:
> 
> http://people.su.se/~jj/FreeSBIE-1.0-i386.iso.torrent
> 
>   Shall I publish it?

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Filippo | 3 Mar 12:06 2004
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OT: Returned mail: Cannot send message after 5 retries


I think the IP spam blocking methods are useless... My email boxes 
are always full of spam, and when I use my personal smtp server to 
send email (because often my isp smtp has problems) every 2 days 
some server tells me I'm a spammer or an unauthorized ip... Don't 
think it's the right solution...

Only personal comments :-D

Bye

------- Forwarded message follows -------
Date sent:      	Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:48:14 +0100 (added by postmaster <at> virgilio.it)
From:           	"Mail Delivery Subsystem" <Mailer-Daemon <at> pippos>
Subject:        	Returned mail: Cannot send message after 5 retries

The original message was received at 03/03/2004 11.45.34
from 192.168.0.199

The following addresses had delivery problems:
=================================
freesbie <at> gufi.org

Transcript of session follows:
=================================
Error: 450 Service unavailable; Client host [62.123.censored] blocked using dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic
IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=62.123.118.117

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Oberon | 3 Mar 12:47 2004
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Re: (Fwd) Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent


On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:58:57 +0100
"Filippo " <filimori <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't think the person who sent you the link is seeding an iso 
> corrupted or different from the original, but doing a seed could also 
> check that. I haven't already downloaded the iso so I can't do that.

I've checked the .iso with the .torrent and it's OK.

> If you publish the link anyway you will get the real advantages of 
> bittorrent: faster downloads as more people are downloading...

Two days ago I've posted a torrent on http://f.scarywater.net/ and it
has now 22 seeders and 212 people has already download it.
I think this time could be used it without create another .torrent and
split the sources (even though I've made the mistake of bzipping the
.iso ^_^;;)

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Dario Freni | 3 Mar 12:55 2004

Re: (Fwd) Re: FreeSBIE and BitTorrent

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:47:28 +0100
Oberon <ser_canof <at> tin.it> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:58:57 +0100
> "Filippo " <filimori <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I don't think the person who sent you the link is seeding an iso 
> > corrupted or different from the original, but doing a seed could
> > also check that. I haven't already downloaded the iso so I can't do
> > that.
> 
> I've checked the .iso with the .torrent and it's OK.
> 
> > If you publish the link anyway you will get the real advantages of 
> > bittorrent: faster downloads as more people are downloading...
> 
> Two days ago I've posted a torrent on http://f.scarywater.net/ and it
> has now 22 seeders and 212 people has already download it.
> I think this time could be used it without create another .torrent and
> split the sources (even though I've made the mistake of bzipping the
> .iso ^_^;;)

  Please, find somebody that can offer himself as a tracker for next
releases, keeping himself in sync with ftp, ftp2 or rsync.at.

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Dario Freni | 3 Mar 14:22 2004

slashdot

  Yes, we've been slashdotted :)

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Scott Long | 3 Mar 18:49 2004
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Excellent job!


FreeSBIE team,

I want to let you know that I downloaded the 1.0 release a few days ago
and have been really impressed with it.  Many of the people in my office
that were fans of things like Knoppix are now bigger fans of FreeSBIE.
I wanted to make a couple of small suggestions for it; I don't have the
time right now to come up with patches, but maybe someone else can be
inspired take a look:

Compatibility:
 - Many mice have compatibility problems, especially if going through a
   KVM switch.  Add the following line to /boot/device.hints:

hint.psm.0.flags=0x100

   This should have little consequence and will make many more mice work.

 - ACPI.  The ACPI code in 5.2.1 still has lots of compatibility problems
   for many users.  You might want to think about either disabling it by
   default, or re-arranging the beastie.4th menu to be more clear about
   ACPI.

Performance:
 - On my system, it takes quite a while for the desktop to come up.
   Turning on atapi_dma helps this considerably.  It's turned off by
   default due to some old baggage in the ATA driver, but can probably
   be turned on by default for FreeSBIE.  Add the following to
   /boot/loader.conf:

hw.ata.atapi_dma=1

Features:
 - As I said, my office mates really liked FreeSBIE as compared to
   Knoppix, but the one complaint that they had was that there was no
   KOffice or OpenOffice.  Also, it wasn't clear  to me if a printing
   interface like CUPS or LPRng was available.  This might be a very
   nice addition to future releases, as it makes it possible to have
   a truly mobile workstation.

Bugs:
 - I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I can't understand
   why I have to manually type 'xinit' at the command line after boot.
   Why doesn't X start up automatically?

 - The SMB browser couldn't find the domain master in my Windows network,
   but it could browse to individual computers if I went to them manually.
   I'm not sure if this is a problem with my network or with the SMB
   client, as I don't do much with Windows.  Just curious if others are
   seeing it.

In all, I'm very impressed by the work!  I'll be sending out a request for
submission to the Bi-Monthly FreeBSD status report, and I hope to see an
entry for FreeSBIE =-)

Scott

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