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Dan Langille | 1 Dec 2009 03:04
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BSDCan 2010

Hello folks,

BSDCan 2010 will be held 13-14 May, 2010 in Ottawa at the University of
Ottawa. It will be preceded by two days of tutorials on 11-12 May.

We are now accepting proposals for talks.

The talks should be designed with a very strong technical content bias.
Proposals of a business development or marketing nature are not
appropriate for this venue.

If you are doing something interesting with a BSD operating system,
please submit a proposal. Whether you are developing a very complex
system using BSD as the foundation, or helping others and have a story
to tell about how BSD played a role, we want to hear about your
experience.  People using BSD as a platform for research are also
encouraged to submit a proposal. Possible topics include:

* How we manage a giant installation with respect to handling spam.
* and/or sysadmin.
* and/or networking.

 From the BSDCan website, the Archives section will allow you to review
the wide variety of past BSDCan presentations as further examples.

Both users and developers are encouraged to share their experiences.

The schedule is:

19 Dec 2009 Proposal acceptance begins
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jhtaoppk | 1 Dec 2009 19:32

advocacy/141064: jhtaoppk


>Number:         141064
>Category:       advocacy
>Synopsis:       jhtaoppk
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>Priority:       high
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>Arrival-Date:   Tue Dec 01 18:40:02 UTC 2009
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ehaupt | 1 Dec 2009 19:52
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Re: advocacy/141064: jhtaoppk

Synopsis: jhtaoppk

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SPAM

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John Marshall | 4 Dec 2009 06:41
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Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup

Gentlemen,

Sorry if this topic is inappropriate for this mailing list - please
point me in the right direction if so, or pass this on to the
appropriate hat.

Readers of the FreeBSD web site and handbook are directed to the the
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce newsgroup.  This newsgroup, created in
1995 and moderated by Jordan Hubbard, is inactive and under threat of
extinction.

The newsgroup folks have started their "Moderator Vacancy Investigation"
(MVI) process for this newsgroup and unless a replacement moderator is
appointed the group will probably be removed.

I suggest that the FreeBSD Project:
  1. Respond to the MVI proposing a new moderator for the newsgroup;
  2. Arrange for the freebsd-announce mailing list to be gated to
     the newsgroup (since that fits the newsgroup's charter).

Extract from the MVI...

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  CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.FREEBSD.ANNOUNCE

          Moderated by Jordan Hubbard <jkh <at> freefall.cdrom.com>

          This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the
          FreeBSD operating system. Things appropriate for the
          .announce group would include announcements of new
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David Wolfskill | 4 Dec 2009 14:04

Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup

On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 04:41:56PM +1100, John Marshall wrote:
> ...
> I suggest that the FreeBSD Project:
>   1. Respond to the MVI proposing a new moderator for the newsgroup;
>   2. Arrange for the freebsd-announce mailing list to be gated to
>      the newsgroup (since that fits the newsgroup's charter).

I haven't paid attention to netnews in several years, so my perspective
may well be biased.

And I haven't actually paid attention to the issues involved in running
a news site for most of the last couple of decades.

But my recollection is that *bidirectional* gateways (news <=> mail) are
rather difficult to "get right" and the consequences of misconfiguration
tend toward "cascade failure."

It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional
gateway were set up (mail => news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup
were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list.

In that scenario, it would not be possible to "post" directly the
newsgroup -- and I believe that would be appropriate.

> ...
> I am happy to help if necessary but somebody like the -announce mailing
> list moderator is probably more appropriate.  I have never done any
> mail-to-news stuff but I could learn.
> 
>  - I mailed jkh <at>  on 30-Nov and got no response.
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav | 4 Dec 2009 14:46
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Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup

David Wolfskill <david <at> catwhisker.org> writes:
> But my recollection is that *bidirectional* gateways (news <=> mail) are
> rather difficult to "get right" and the consequences of misconfiguration
> tend toward "cascade failure."

They're not trivial to get right "from first principles", but they're
very common, and I'm sure someone who's done it before can lend a hand.

> It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional
> gateway were set up (mail => news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup
> were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list.

...and that would be sufficient for -announce.

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John Marshall | 4 Dec 2009 23:25
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Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup

On Fri, 04 Dec 2009, 14:46 +0100, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
> David Wolfskill <david <at> catwhisker.org> writes:
> > It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional
> > gateway were set up (mail => news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup
> > were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list.
> 
> ...and that would be sufficient for -announce.

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your responses.  Jordan subsequently replied to my email
and CC'd the FreeBSD Core Team.  Core has nominated philip <at>  to succeed
jhk <at>  as moderator of the .announce newsgroup.

Philip intends to funnel messages from -announce <at>  into the .announce
newsgroup.  I think that liaison between philip <at>  and postmaster <at>  on the
mechanics of this process would be good.

Thank you for helping (re)establish an official presence for FreeBSD on
USENET.

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David Wolfskill | 4 Dec 2009 23:29

Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup

On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 09:25:11AM +1100, John Marshall wrote:
> ...
> Thank you for your responses.  Jordan subsequently replied to my email
> and CC'd the FreeBSD Core Team.  Core has nominated philip <at>  to succeed
> jhk <at>  as moderator of the .announce newsgroup.
> 
> Philip intends to funnel messages from -announce <at>  into the .announce
> newsgroup.  I think that liaison between philip <at>  and postmaster <at>  on the
> mechanics of this process would be good.
> 
> Thank you for helping (re)establish an official presence for FreeBSD on
> USENET.

Glad to help; that's why I'm here.

I'm pretty sure Philip knows how to reach postmaster <at> .  :-}

Thanks again for taking the initiative to address the matter.

Peace,
david   (postmaster <at> freebsd.org hat lying about somewhere near here)
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Marc G. Fournier | 5 Dec 2009 20:10
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Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup

On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, David Wolfskill wrote:

> It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional 
> gateway were set up (mail => news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup 
> were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list.

In case it is needed, I do run a news server, and would be most willing to 
put a uni-directional posting filter onto that mailing list, so that mail 
gets there ... just let me know if this is what is decided / needed ...

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Rodrigo OSORIO (ros | 7 Dec 2009 14:06

FreeNAS moves from FreeBSD to Debian Linux ?


Bad news,

According with Slashdot[1] the freeNAS project plans to disconinue the FreeBSD based system
and moves to Debian Linux. A concurent project called coreNAS was started by the FreeNAS main 
developer Volker Theile.

- rodrigo

[1] http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/06/152205
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