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John Kozubik | 1 Jan 2008 02:13

Bounty announced for Flash9 in Opera in FreeBSD


"... I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe
for running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9
on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is already a
linux-flashplugin9 port. The trouble is, even if you do convince your
browser to use the plugin, it crashes frequently and generally "doesn't
work". I think a good proof of success would be the ability to play
arbitrary content on YouTube without complication, or perhaps use all of
google maps / google finance without crashing."

http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html
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Dan Langille | 1 Jan 2008 02:50
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Re: Bounty announced for Flash9 in Opera in FreeBSD

John Kozubik wrote:
> 
> "... I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe
> for running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9
> on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is already a
> linux-flashplugin9 port. The trouble is, even if you do convince your
> browser to use the plugin, it crashes frequently and generally "doesn't
> work". I think a good proof of success would be the ability to play
> arbitrary content on YouTube without complication, or perhaps use all of
> google maps / google finance without crashing."
> 
> 
> http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html

My contribution to the bounty is free admission to BSDCan and tutorials.

 From 2007, this was worth roughly CAD$400.

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Szilveszter Adam | 1 Jan 2008 08:28
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Re: Bounty announced for Flash9 in Opera in FreeBSD

On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:13:30PM -0800, John Kozubik wrote:
> 
> 
> "... I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe
> for running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9
> on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is already a
> linux-flashplugin9 port. 

Well, perhaps it should be noted that even though a port exists for
Flash 9, it does not really work even with the linux-firefox port, the
browser locks up from time to time with it even on sites that work
OK with Flash 7 + native or linux-firefox. So there may be some more
work to do than just the Opera part.

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Tim Clewlow | 1 Jan 2008 10:19
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Re: Bounty announced for Flash9 in Opera in FreeBSD


--- Szilveszter Adam <sziszi <at> bsd.hu> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:13:30PM -0800, John Kozubik wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > "... I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe
> > for running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9
> > on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is already a
> > linux-flashplugin9 port. 
> 
> Well, perhaps it should be noted that even though a port exists for
> Flash 9, it does not really work even with the linux-firefox port, the
> browser locks up from time to time with it even on sites that work
> OK with Flash 7 + native or linux-firefox. So there may be some more
> work to do than just the Opera part.
> 
> -- 
> Regards:
> 
> Szilveszter ADAM
> Budapest
> Hungary

Just one more idea - how about we do it ourselves. I'm guessing there are a
number of people who want to have native flash 9 working in the netscape family
of browsers, in particular firefox. Maybe the maintainer(s) who put together
flash 7 can let us know what needs to be done, and we could help each other
with creating the code together. It could be an opportunity for new people to
learn how to code for FreeBSD, I suspect there are many out there who want to
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matt donovan | 2 Jan 2008 14:16

Re: Bounty announced for Flash9 in Opera in FreeBSD

On Jan 1, 2008 4:19 AM, Tim Clewlow <tim1timau <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> --- Szilveszter Adam <sziszi <at> bsd.hu> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:13:30PM -0800, John Kozubik wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > "... I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable
> recipe
> > > for running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of
> Opera 9
> > > on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is
> already a
> > > linux-flashplugin9 port.
> >
> > Well, perhaps it should be noted that even though a port exists for
> > Flash 9, it does not really work even with the linux-firefox port, the
> > browser locks up from time to time with it even on sites that work
> > OK with Flash 7 + native or linux-firefox. So there may be some more
> > work to do than just the Opera part.
> >
> > --
> > Regards:
> >
> > Szilveszter ADAM
> > Budapest
> > Hungary
>
> Just one more idea - how about we do it ourselves. I'm guessing there are
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Toomas Aas | 2 Jan 2008 17:48
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bsdstats low numbers this month

The numbers for this month at www.bsdstats.org seem strangely low. There 
are currently only 1645 systems listed. There was only one FreeBSD system 
listed from Estonia, while I personally have more than one system (in 
Estonia) which did report in on January 1st using the monthly periodic 
script. Just now I re-ran the periodic script manually on one system and 
the number of FreeBSD systems in Estonia instantly doubled :)

Maybe there is some change-of-year bug in the bsdstats website code?

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Andy Elvey | 5 Jan 2008 02:16
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Just installed 6.2 - it's outstanding!

Hi all -

I'm a first-timer here (have been using Linux for about five years or 
so).  I've just installed FreeBSD 6.2 on my second PC and it is excellent!
I can say now that when 7.0 comes out, that will be going on my main PC 
( *really* looking forward to 7.0 coming out ... :-)  )

I think that when 7.0 comes along, you'll see quite an increase in the 
number of people like myself who will try it and be utterly sold on it.
Excellent engineering, beautifully done! 

One of the things that was the "tipping point" for me to use Free was 
that I saw a performance comparison graph of Free v7 versus Linux.  Free 
semed to be way ahead, and that (coupled with the excellent design) made 
it easy to decide to go with Free.... ;-)  

<Homer Simpson mode> 
   "Mmmmmmmm....... 7.0......... 
</Homer Simpson mode> 

Bye for now - 
- Andy

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Vadim Goncharov | 5 Jan 2008 15:44
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Re: sbrk(2), OOM-killer and malloc() overcommit

05.01.08  <at>  07:10 Peter Jeremy wrote:

>> So why we are losing users due to this "feature",
>
> Other than your previous post, I don't recall seeing this claim before.
> Can you provide references to people stating that they are abandoning
> FreeBSD because it doesn't support swap reservation?  I've had a quick
> look at can't find anything.  Definitely, no-one considers it enough of
> a problem to have raised a PR.

Those people usually do not read or write any maillists, PRs, etc. - they  
simply take another OS, which they heard of support from commercial  
vendors, and which CAN do what they want, in this case - enable space  
reservation for at least some processes. I don't remember all of that  
people, but at least one lives in my town, and it is him program (with his  
name/address in comments) which I gave as illustration of problem in my  
first letter of this thread. And this man now says everyone that FreeBSD  
is good for education/small systems, but unsuitable for serious  
data-mining tasks...

>> Can I find somewhere summary of that discussions in archives?
>
> Since you're making the claim, how about _you_ produce the evidence.

I don't have too many time to search through all bikeshedding on a  
non-native language. But sometime ago this topic was discussed in russian  
NNTP BSD group, which shown in actuality of problem for some people - as a  
result, I was told that Kostik Belousov made a patch partially solving  
problem. So - why do not have tunable, which can pleasure both camps?  
Every time when people want XXX and others want the opposite - make it an
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Marc G. Fournier | 6 Jan 2008 05:41
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Re: bsdstats low numbers this month


--On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 18:48:26 +0200 Toomas Aas 
<toomas.aas <at> raad.tartu.ee> wrote:

> The numbers for this month at www.bsdstats.org seem strangely low. There are
> currently only 1645 systems listed. There was only one FreeBSD system listed
> from Estonia, while I personally have more than one system (in Estonia) which
> did report in on January 1st using the monthly periodic script. Just now I
> re-ran the periodic script manually on one system and the number of FreeBSD
> systems in Estonia instantly doubled :)
>
> Maybe there is some change-of-year bug in the bsdstats website code?

No, failed monitoring on one of the reporting servers ... we added a second 
circuit onto our network in '07 to deal with some DDoS issues, and moved our 
secondary reporting server onto that circuit end of Dec, and failed to notice 
that it wasn't connecting properly to the database server ...

Everything is fixed now, but we lost the '1st of the month' data that went 
through that reporting server :(

I'm working on fixing the stats, as someone else suggested, so that we're 
dealing with 'last 30 days' (or even 60) vs 'this month', which will hopefully 
make the reported stats a bit less 'jumpy' ... working on that one tonight ...

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Marc G. Fournier | 6 Jan 2008 07:27
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Re: bsdstats low numbers this month


There, I've just modified the code so that it reports on distinct hosts over 
the past 60 days, vs just this past month ... for those that *may* have 
reported several times but have changed their OS (in theory, the only way that 
could happen is *if* they save/copy their /var/db/bsdstats file across a 
re-build, mind you), their last reported operating system is what will show up 
...

This should make the statistics a bit more 'static', since we aren't reporting 
'from zero' at the start of each month ...

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> - --On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 18:48:26 +0200 Toomas Aas
> <toomas.aas <at> raad.tartu.ee> wrote:
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>> The numbers for this month at www.bsdstats.org seem strangely low. There are
>> currently only 1645 systems listed. There was only one FreeBSD system listed
>> from Estonia, while I personally have more than one system (in Estonia) which
>> did report in on January 1st using the monthly periodic script. Just now I
>> re-ran the periodic script manually on one system and the number of FreeBSD
>> systems in Estonia instantly doubled :)
>>
>> Maybe there is some change-of-year bug in the bsdstats website code?
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