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Marc G. Fournier | 1 Dec 2002 07:57
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List of big names ...


Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone
is maintain about who is using it?  I've been having discussions with a
partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a
base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against
"but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is
falling behind Linux" ...

Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that
have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion?

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Walter | 1 Dec 2002 14:12
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How NSA access was built into Windows

Though a fairly old story, I just received this
in an e-mail and I thought it appropriate for
Advocacy.

<http://www.groundscore.org/april_2002/page_02.htm>

(A prior attempt to send the whole page failed, I'll
presume because it got send as an attachment.)

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Mario Goebbels | 1 Dec 2002 16:22

RE: How NSA access was built into Windows

You're kidding, right?

-mg

> Though a fairly old story, I just received this in an e-mail 
> and I thought it appropriate for Advocacy.
> 
> <http://www.groundscore.org/april_2002/page_02.htm>
> 
> (A prior attempt to send the whole page failed, I'll presume 
> because it got send as an attachment.)

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Walter | 1 Dec 2002 18:13
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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows

No - should I be?  :-}

Mario Goebbels wrote:
> You're kidding, right?
> 
> -mg
> 
> 
>>Though a fairly old story, I just received this in an e-mail 
>>and I thought it appropriate for Advocacy.
>>
>><http://www.groundscore.org/april_2002/page_02.htm>

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Adam Weinberger | 1 Dec 2002 19:46
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Re: List of big names ...


Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the
questions list.

# Adam

>> (12.01.2002  <at>  1025 PST): paul beard said, in 1.3K: <<
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> >Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list 
> >that anyone is maintain about who is using it?  I've been
> >having discussions with a partner for awhile now about whether
> >we should launch a product with a base OS of linux vs freebsd
> >... and its tiring to try and argue against "but, nobody is
> >accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is falling
> >behind Linux" ...
> >
> 
> Apple seems to think pretty highly of FreeBSD. And there are the 
> oft-repeated rumors that WinNT/2000/XP all use the BSD TCP stack.
> 
> Having used both, I would never choose Linux over FreeBSD.
> 
> >Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big 
> >names that have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort
> >of 'why' discusion?
> >
> 
> F5 Systems based their load balancers/switches on BSD and a 
> follow-on company started by one of the founders (Ahaza Systems,
(Continue reading)

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Ceri Davies | 1 Dec 2002 20:10

Re: How NSA access was built into Windows

On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 12:13:49PM -0500, Walter wrote:
> Mario Goebbels wrote:
> > Walter wrote:
> >
> >>Though a fairly old story, I just received this in an e-mail 
> >>and I thought it appropriate for Advocacy.
> >>
> >><http://www.groundscore.org/april_2002/page_02.htm>

> >You're kidding, right?

> No - should I be?  :-}

Yes, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD.

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Terry Lambert | 2 Dec 2002 00:22
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Re: List of big names ...

Adam Weinberger wrote:
> Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the
> questions list.

FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that
it was posted to -questions, and "Bcc:"'ed to -advocacy.

If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster,
which the headers claim is "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy <at> hub.org>.

-- Terry

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Mike Doyle | 2 Dec 2002 16:04
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Article in The Register

An article in The Register today mentions FreeBSD in a very favourable
light, in the context of discussing dirty tricks by the sales reps
of the big monopoly we all love to pretend to hate. :-)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28386.html

<>< ============================================================= ><>
Michael Doyle                    email: relyod <at> cooperationireland.org
Network Administrator            personal email:     relyod <at> indigo.ie
Co-operation Ireland	           http://www.cooperationireland.org/
Phone: +353-1-661 0588                           Fax: +353-1-661 8456

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Marc G. Fournier | 2 Dec 2002 16:22
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Re: List of big names ...

On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:

> Adam Weinberger wrote:
> > Please take this to advocacy. This banter doesn't belong on the
> > questions list.
>
> FWIW: If you examine the history of this thread, you will see that
> it was posted to -questions, and "Bcc:"'ed to -advocacy.
>
> If you need to assign blame, assign it to the original poster,
> which the headers claim is "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy <at> hub.org>.

Ummm, I never BCC'd to -advocacy, only sent it to -questions ... totally
forgot about the -advocacy group even though I am on that list :(

We, at the PostgreSQL project, just recently setup
http://advocacy.postgresql.org to start pushing case-studies of those
deploying with PgSQL ... has anyone looked at a
http://advocacy.freebsd.org site for similar?  With as much press as Linux
gets, it would be really nice to have a site to go to that was purely
marketing ...

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Ceri Davies | 2 Dec 2002 16:30

Re: List of big names ...

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:22:20AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> We, at the PostgreSQL project, just recently setup
> http://advocacy.postgresql.org to start pushing case-studies of those
> deploying with PgSQL

This is a particularly nice site as well - we would do well to stea^Wlearn
from this site.

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