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Robert Pendell | 1 Jul 2004 01:19
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Re: Netsky worm

See below for my replies to certain comments

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:38:20 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
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> Robert McNulty Junior wrote:
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> > It's not Ourlook or Ourlook Express. I use outlook xp with a firewall
> > and an antivirus.
>
> Ah duh! That's still Outlook!
>
> > Its coming from someone on cygwin-xfree <at> cygwin.com And cygwin <at> cygwin.com.
>
> So what?!? You do realize that email addresses can easily be forged
> don't you?
>
> > I'm not affected by this virus. I just scanned my computer, and netsky
> > worm is not there, nor is any other virus.
>
> Then you are lucky. If I say Outlook and Outlook Express are known to
> help proliferate virii and worms that does not necessarily translate to
> "anybody who uses them is therefore infected"? No.
>
> > Linux is being hit hard with virii, Trojans, and worms too,
>
> Not really. If you think so then show some data.
>
> > so don't blame Microsoft for some "hacker's" attempt at getting rid of
> > the best companies Software has ever had.
>
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Michael Uman | 1 Jul 2004 01:42

Re: Netsky worm

Hi,

This guy sounds like a nut case... Obviously flame bait... I don't know
where this guy gets his information, maybe from MS press literature.
First he claims not to use Outlook, then claims he uses it behind a
firewall... What difference does it make that he runs Outlook behind a
firewall? He is still running the bastard virus spreading software. I
come to two conclusions:

1) He is hopelessly lost and actually believes what he is spouting.
2) He is trying to be funny and doing a very bad job at it.

I learned a long time ago that people like this are dangerous. They
believe everything {like WinXP is the best OS ;)} and that viruses are
the result of terrorists. It sounds like this guy is from another
planet. Sometimes his writing is humorous, like not believing that beer
can be free, or claiming he had to pay for his linux... I have run at
least three different distros and have not paid a cent {downloaded from
redhat,mandrake, bsd}. Maybe he just doesn't know any better.

This is the problem we have... We have a great number of people who
think they know, but they don't really know. And to those who know, the
people like this chum sound like fools.

I'm sorry for taking this bandwidth, but oh... This guy is just asking
to be flamed... 

Michael

On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 15:38, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
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Andrew DeFaria | 1 Jul 2004 01:53
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Re: Netsky worm

Robert Pendell wrote:

> Yes. That is true. Microsoft is showing some changes though for the 
> future. For example. Even in Windows XP, LAN connections are 
> firewalled by default. SP2 will enable the firewall by default and 
> include a security center. The firewall is more robust giving the user 
> a bit more control but still lacks outgoing data protection like
> commercial firewalls have.

I believe we all heard of this. However, what about Word/Excel documents 
running macros causing problems. Yes they stopped that but then again 
that's my point - initially, and by default , used to be enabled. Then 
there's

http://news.google.com/url?ntc=0M4C0&q=http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml%3FarticleID%3D22103094 
on the front page of news.google.com. Also, the infamous Love Virus, 
SoBig, etc, etc.

> Right. Windows actually stole certain things from UNIX. Example: The 
> system32\drivers\etc folder is taken directly from UNIX. There are 
> certain others stolen from UNIX too but I can't remember what.

Oh there are tons of things like DNS, HTTP, SMTP and then things like 
nslookup, ping, telnet, rsh, etc. Find's look like greps, type is a poor 
man's more, and speaking of more, the Windows more. Many other 
utilities, some even done by MS themselves, have often shed their /opts 
for -opts Unix style command line format.

> The money they charge is usually for support costs, media costs, and 
> time spent actually making the media. However it is far cheaper to go
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Yaakov Selkowitz | 1 Jul 2004 01:58
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] New Package: (esound, libesound0, libesound-devel)-0.2.34-1


The following packages have been added to the Cygwin distribution:

*** esound-0.2.34-1
*** libesound-devel-0.2.34-1
*** libesound0-0.2.34-1

EsounD mixes multiple digitized audio streams and samples together for
playback by a single audio device. It also allows monitoring of mixed
output, and recording. Network connections to the daemon are supported
as well.

libesound0 is also a requirement for libgnome-2.

Messages regarding this packages should be sent to cygwin at cygwin dot com.

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Send email to the address specified there.  It will be in the format:

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If you need more information on unsubscribing, start reading here:

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Please read *all* of the information on unsubscribing that is available
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Kaz Kylheku | 1 Jul 2004 02:03

Re: Netsky worm

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Robert Pendell wrote:

> Right.  Windows actually stole certain things from UNIX.  Example: The
> system32\drivers\etc folder is taken directly from UNIX.  There are
> certain others stolen from UNIX too but I can't remember what.

``Stolen'' is a big word. Microsoft has as much right to imitate
good or bad ideas from elsewhere as anyone else.

I can think of lots of things in Windows that were imitated from Unix
and surrounding culture. Most of them are imitated badly; the nice,
simple concepts are typically contorted and murdered in the process.

- The use of the C language for expressing the system interfaces and
  for developing the kernel. [ All very bastardized under Windows.
  Crap like __declspec(dllimport) and __stdcall and __pascal, WINAPI 
  hack layered upon hack. ]

- Network stack. [ Direct from Berkeley Unix ].

- The basic kernel architecture. [ Though unreliable; trivial 
  driver reconfigurations require reboot. ]

- Hierarchical filesystem with . and .. directories, and paths
  expressed left to right separated by slashes (albeit backslashes).
  [ But with drive letter name stupidities, 8.3 backward compatibility
  hacks, UNC paths that don't work everywhere, etc. ]

- Symbolic links (shortcuts) [ Not recognized at the deepest OS levels,
  just a superficial trick seen by the Shell API ], and hard links (NTFS).
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rudolf | 1 Jul 2004 03:15

Re: Cygwin and share memory and semaphore

Hi,

I read the cygipc source code and get to know  a service must run for the IPC functions.

That is not good for my program. 

I'd like to ask how the cygwin1.dll realize the IPC functions, use cygipc package also?

another question is where I can find the IPC package using System V style function names for windows platform>

Thanks,

Rudolf

======= 2004-07-01 05:38:14 You wrote：=======

>Perhaps you are unaware of a package called 'cygipc'.
>This includes most, if not all, of the facilities you have
>said you need.  For example ...
>------------------------------------------
>$ ipcs -h
>usage: ipcs [-abchmopqstuMQST]
>ipcs prints information for IPC resources for which you have read access.
>  -a   Show the maximum amount of information possible when displaying
>       active semaphores, message queues and shared memory segments
>       (This is shorthand for specifying -bcopt).
>  -b   Show the maximum allowed sizes for active semaphores, message queues
>       and shared memory segments.  The maximum allowed size is the maximum
>       number of bytes in a message on a message queue, the size of a shared
>       memory segment, or the number of semaphores in a set of semaphores.
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Larry Hall | 1 Jul 2004 03:24
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Re: Cygwin and share memory and semaphore

Actually, the cygipc package has been superceded by the integrated and 
more capable cygserver that comes with the Cygwin package.  You should 
investigate cygserver if you want to know how these things work in Cygwin.
cygserver is also run as a service though, which you state is a problem 
for you. 

Larry

At 09:15 PM 6/30/2004, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I read the cygipc source code and get to know  a service must run for the IPC functions.
>
>That is not good for my program. 
>
>I'd like to ask how the cygwin1.dll realize the IPC functions, use cygipc package also?
>
>another question is where I can find the IPC package using System V style function names for windows platform>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rudolf
>
>======= 2004-07-01 05:38:14 You wrote£º=======
>
>>Perhaps you are unaware of a package called 'cygipc'.
>>This includes most, if not all, of the facilities you have
>>said you need.  For example ...
>>------------------------------------------
>>$ ipcs -h
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rudolf | 1 Jul 2004 07:20

help me more :( , posix functions in cygwin1.dll and many questions

Hi,

I have asked more question about share memory and semahpore , now I have further difficult quesions

1) is there a way to  compile VC++ generated libraray in cygwin gcc?

 2) all  posix  IPC functions require cygserver?

3) how to run cygwin gcc compiled apache2 (containing IPC functions) in a windows machine without cygwin installed?

4) is there a way to install cygserver indepentally of cygwin  independally ?

Rudolf
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Carlo Florendo y Flora | 1 Jul 2004 23:55
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mod-php4 missing from cygwin distro

Hello,

I'd like to be able to run apache + php via cygwin.  However, a setup 
package search for  `mod-php4' and the like led to zero results.  A 
search on `php' returned results but nothing useful.

It seems that mod-php4 is missing.

The following google query didn't help too much:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=ja&ie=UTF-8&q=php%2C+cygwin%2C+missing&lr=

Another query led me to

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-09/msg01028.html

but it assumes that libphp4 is installed.

I would be very grateful to anyone who could give me leads on what 
happened to the php libs.

Thanks!

Best Regards,

Carlo
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Carlo Florendo y Flora
Astra Philippines Inc.
www.astra.ph
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Oz Arad | 1 Jul 2004 08:44
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Updated/new: gcc 3.2-1, gcc2-2.95.3-10, gcc-mingw-3.2-20020817-1

Hi,
I am looking for gcc2 2.95.3-10 for cygwin environment, running on Win2k.
Where can I download it from ?
Do you happen to know ?
I can not find it anywhere...
Thanks,
Oz
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