Jon TURNEY | 1 Feb 2012 10:18
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.11.4-2

On 31/01/2012 22:02, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
> I notice a problem moving the mouse pointer.
>  
> Both with xorg-server-1.11.4-1 and xorg-server-1.11.4-2, the mouse pointer
> moves in slow motion, in "steps", with a delay.. one has difficulty to move
> finely...
> 
> If I switch-off wgl, it moves just fine!

Is this running a particular X application? Or before you even start one?

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Angelo Graziosi | 1 Feb 2012 11:09
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.11.4-2

Il 01/02/2012 10.18, Jon TURNEY ha scritto:
> On 31/01/2012 22:02, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
>> I notice a problem moving the mouse pointer.
>>
>> Both with xorg-server-1.11.4-1 and xorg-server-1.11.4-2, the mouse pointer
>> moves in slow motion, in "steps", with a delay.. one has difficulty to move
>> finely...
>>
>> If I switch-off wgl, it moves just fine!
>
> Is this running a particular X application? Or before you even start one?
>

Before I start one.. Just starting X with the link I described. I have 
that link on the desktop and in Automatic Run, so just loging in starts 
the X server. Killing all XWin and starting the X clicking the link on 
the Desktop DOES NOT fix but has the same result. Only if I start with 
-nowgl option I get the normal "fluidity" of the mouse pointer.. (as 
before you released 1.11.4-1...

Ciao,
Angelo.

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Jon TURNEY | 1 Feb 2012 11:32
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.11.4-2

On 01/02/2012 10:09, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
> Il 01/02/2012 10.18, Jon TURNEY ha scritto:
>> On 31/01/2012 22:02, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
>>> I notice a problem moving the mouse pointer.
>>>
>>> Both with xorg-server-1.11.4-1 and xorg-server-1.11.4-2, the mouse pointer
>>> moves in slow motion, in "steps", with a delay.. one has difficulty to move
>>> finely...
>>>
>>> If I switch-off wgl, it moves just fine!
>>
>> Is this running a particular X application? Or before you even start one?
> 
> Before I start one.. Just starting X with the link I described. I have that
> link on the desktop and in Automatic Run, so just loging in starts the X
> server. Killing all XWin and starting the X clicking the link on the Desktop
> DOES NOT fix but has the same result. Only if I start with -nowgl option I get
> the normal "fluidity" of the mouse pointer.. (as before you released 1.11.4-1...

Very strange.

When you get the jerky mouse pointer, is the CPU usage high? If so, is it XWin
which is using it? or is it idling?

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Angelo Graziosi | 1 Feb 2012 12:16
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.11.4-2

Il 01/02/2012 11.32, Jon TURNEY ha scritto:
> On 01/02/2012 10:09, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
>> Il 01/02/2012 10.18, Jon TURNEY ha scritto:
>>> On 31/01/2012 22:02, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
>>>> I notice a problem moving the mouse pointer.
>>>>
>>>> Both with xorg-server-1.11.4-1 and xorg-server-1.11.4-2, the mouse pointer
>>>> moves in slow motion, in "steps", with a delay.. one has difficulty to move
>>>> finely...
>>>>
>>>> If I switch-off wgl, it moves just fine!
>>>
>>> Is this running a particular X application? Or before you even start one?
>>
>> Before I start one.. Just starting X with the link I described. I have that
>> link on the desktop and in Automatic Run, so just loging in starts the X
>> server. Killing all XWin and starting the X clicking the link on the Desktop
>> DOES NOT fix but has the same result. Only if I start with -nowgl option I get
>> the normal "fluidity" of the mouse pointer.. (as before you released 1.11.4-1...
>
> Very strange.
>
> When you get the jerky mouse pointer, is the CPU usage high? If so, is it XWin
> which is using it? or is it idling?
>

Really no... For example,

top - 12:08:12 up 6 min,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Tasks:   4 total,   1 running,   3 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
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Christian Tuma | 1 Feb 2012 17:26
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Re: xwin.exe 1.11.4-1 segmentation fault on startup (-wgl -multiwindow)

Dear Jon,

Thank you for your quick response and the fix. Now XWin starts without crashing. Attached please see the new log-file.

> You don't appear to be using a graphics card driver with OpenGL acceleration
> though, I'd be interested to which one?

Good point. My system is a Lenovo ThinkPad W520 - it contains two different graphics systems:

1) integrated Intel HD Graphics system (driver 8.15.10.2538)

2) Nvidia Quadro 1000M (latest driver version 285.62 supporting all core features of OpenGL 4.2)

XWin seems to "run" (or to "detect" or to "talk to") with the integrated Intel HD graphics system ("GDI
generic") and not with the Nvidia Quadro 1000M. How can I change this behaviour? When starting an
application within Windows 7 I can usually choose in the context menu which of the two graphics processors
to use. How do I do this from within Cygwin?

Thank you.

- Christian
Attachment (XWin.0.log): application/octet-stream, 8 KiB
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David Karr | 2 Feb 2012 18:49
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How to properly start xwin at windows seven startup?

I've had an old version of Cygwin running on a WinXP laptop for quite
a while.  I made it run "startxwin.bat" on startup.  I'm now setting
up the latest Cygwin on a Win7 laptop.  The FAQ is saying to not use
the "startxwin.bat" file (as it doesn't exist anymore), and use the
exe file. However, it also says to not start it directly from Windows.
 It needs to be started from a login shell.  What is the proper way to
start the Xwin server at Windows startup?  I didn't see this in the
FAQ, and I didn't find any obvious answers in searches.

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Paul Maier | 2 Feb 2012 20:46
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AW: QAW: AW: Levovo trackpoint come delayed (reproducable with xev)


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> On 29/01/2012 13:36, Paul Maier wrote:
> > I did several tests and now I can send you a detailed report:
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to do that.
> 
> > Notes:
> > - I found that file at C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\TP4table.dat and I have added the
> >   lines from FAQ, but that didn't change anything.
> 
> Hmm... the sixth item in the rule (which I'm guessing is a windows classname),
> doesn't look like it's correct anymore.
> 
> I'm not sure if that's related to your problems, but I've fixed the FAQ.
> 
> >   The following description is done with the patched version of the file.
> > - Your download reference "[1]" seems to be missing in your mail, therfore I used
> >   XWin.20110803-git-a493c0465e56ce0b instead, that I still had from our last debugging.
> 
> Yes, sorry about that. I meant to write:
> 
> [1] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20120129-git-45e67e363e19a481.exe.bz2
> 
> Can you try again with the latest snapshot, there should be some additional
> numbers after the WM_MOUSEWHEEL messages which should help with debugging ths
> problem.
> 
> > - I hold the button down and shift the trackpoint up and down.
> >   xterm shows no scrolling movement at all.
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Ken Brown | 2 Feb 2012 20:56
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Re: How to properly start xwin at windows seven startup?

On 2/2/2012 12:49 PM, David Karr wrote:
> I've had an old version of Cygwin running on a WinXP laptop for quite
> a while.  I made it run "startxwin.bat" on startup.  I'm now setting
> up the latest Cygwin on a Win7 laptop.  The FAQ is saying to not use
> the "startxwin.bat" file (as it doesn't exist anymore), and use the
> exe file. However, it also says to not start it directly from Windows.
>   It needs to be started from a login shell.  What is the proper way to
> start the Xwin server at Windows startup?  I didn't see this in the
> FAQ, and I didn't find any obvious answers in searches.

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting

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Yaakov (Cygwin/X | 2 Feb 2012 21:08
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Re: How to properly start xwin at windows seven startup?

On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:49 -0800, David Karr wrote:
> I've had an old version of Cygwin running on a WinXP laptop for quite
> a while.  I made it run "startxwin.bat" on startup.  I'm now setting
> up the latest Cygwin on a Win7 laptop.  The FAQ is saying to not use
> the "startxwin.bat" file (as it doesn't exist anymore), and use the
> exe file. However, it also says to not start it directly from Windows.
>  It needs to be started from a login shell.  What is the proper way to
> start the Xwin server at Windows startup?  I didn't see this in the
> FAQ, and I didn't find any obvious answers in searches.

Presuming you want to start XWin in multiwindow mode, the xinit package
installs an "XWin Server" shortcut into the Start Menu.  Copy this
shortcut into your Startup folder and you should get the desired result.

Yaakov
Cygwin/X

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