Tuấn Lê Doãn | 1 Feb 2012 07:58
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6lowpan with uIPv6 in Contiki

Dear all.!

I'm trying make an example of 6lowpan with uipv6 in contiki (details to follow). But when I using Ping command, a message "Destination unreachable". Please help me.!
Thanks.!

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Gonçalo Bernardo | 1 Feb 2012 09:53
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Re: Further Discussion About A Port to TI CC430(MSP430 SoC with CC1101 RF Core)

Hi all,
 
I discovered that if we dig into the documentation there is a platform called Wsn430 which uses the cc1100 radio. http://www.sics.se/~adam/contiki/docs/a01856.html
 
However this is not to be found on the contiki folder.
 
Can anyone share the experience of using this platform and explain why it disappeared from the official distribution?
 
Thanks,
Gonçalo


 
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Sean Leo <sean.w.leo-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Thank you all for the explanations/clarifications! I guess the lack of hardware DSSS support would be a problem.

<at> Gonçalo
Sorry that I didn't notice it's a private email :-P

Regards,
Sean



On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:08 PM, David Kopf <dak664-2p+qKb8Fl0QN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
If you can implement a radio_send(packetptr,packetlen) and a
packetlen=radio_receive(packetptr) a bare radio driver is not hard. Software
calls for power on and off, packet pending, and cca are only needed for
radio duty cycling. You can make use of whatever hardware functions you have
for csma and autoack; they will be transparent to contiki.

But that is not an 802.15.4 radio, and 6lowpan uses the 802.15.4 fields for
header compression. So you either embed 802.15.4 in your own protocol, or
modify contiki to use another protocol. In any case the < 1GHz frequency is
not compatible with the 2.5GHz 802.15.4 band used by most devices. Don't
know if the modulation is compatible with the existing or proposed sub-1GHz
802.15.4 bands.

There is an experimental native border router that runs contiki on a host
process and sends/receives low level packets through a serial link to a
radio dongle. That dongle could easily wrap the contiki packets with any
custom serial or RF protocol.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gonçalo Bernardo
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:13 AM
To: Contiki developer mailing list
Subject: Re: [Contiki-developers] Further Discussion About A Port to TI
CC430(MSP430 SoC with CC1101 RF Core)


The thread [cc1101 in Contiki] is not a thread but a private message. But,
anyway: the nesC code is provided by Sownet which sells a node with that
radio (CC1101). A translation of this code shouldn't be difficult but it
would help a lot understanding a bit more the Contiki stack and knowing
which functions does it expect from a radio driver. Is there documentation
on this?

However as an intermediate step I set out to port the simple blink
application to prove that the whole toolchain works and even this isn't that
easy. My platform has a MSP430F2418 and the code under the cpu/ folder isn't
generic for the whole MSP430 family. So you get erros in registers'names for
SPI, UART, etc.

I think the big question is if the Contiki core developers want to make it
easy to port or not. I mean, everyone knows this is not an easy issue, but
welcome to the embedded world and its thousands of hardware configurations!

Have a nice day,
Gonçalo

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Sean Leo <sean.w.leo-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I must point out that the NanoStack 2.0 specifically supports CC430, not
just "potentially support" as I mentioned before.




On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Sean Leo <sean.w.leo-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
Hey guys,

In a previous thread [Any Contiki Port to TI CC430(MSP430 SoC with CC1101 RF
Core)?] at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28731679

(1) Gonçalo and Ansays mentioned that they are working on porting Contiki to
two different motes both with CC1101 independently;
(2) Maciek says that "You can port Contiki to that, but it won't be
compatible with other devices (ravens, econotags, etc.)";
(3) Jon says that "......, it just means that it(CC1101, commented by Sean)
probably can't talk to standard 802.15.4 radios. It is likely that it can't
generate ACKs with the proper timing."

Since some people here either have the similar interest as me or have
already done some related work, I dug a little bit on the web and found two
pieces of information that might be interesting to some of you. Moreover,
I'd like to know more people interested or working on such a port so that we
might be able to progress faster.

I found one proprietary binary library which potentially supports CC430 and
it's also listed on TI's CC430 official web page. It's Nanostack at
http://www.sensinode.com/EN/products/software.html

And the other is OSIAN(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSIAN), which is
probably well-known to the TinyOS community. The OSIAN stack was designed
primarily for CC430 and it was claimed to be open source. However, I don't
see any recent updates in the code repository and I also couldn't open its
official website(http://www.openosian.net/). Plus, the development
platform(SuRF Developers Kit,
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/05/people-power-gadgets/) previously
offered by People Power(http://www.peoplepowerco.com),  which developed
OSIAN, doesn't seem available any more.

According to these information, I guess point (3) above can be answered. I
still don't understand what Maciek pointed out in (2). Why such a port won't
be compatible? And I read another thread [cc1101 in Contiki] posted by
Gonçalo which attached a CC1101 driver written in nesC, I'm wondering which
project it belongs to and how it is going with getting it working?

Please join us and discuss more about a Contiki port to CC430.

Regards,
Sean







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Re: Further Discussion About A Port to TI CC430(MSP430 SoC with CC1101 RF Core)

On 01/02/12 08:53, Gonçalo Bernardo wrote:
> Hi all,
> I discovered that if we dig into the documentation there is a platform 
> called Wsn430 which uses the cc1100 radio. 
> http://www.sics.se/~adam/contiki/docs/a01856.html 
> <http://www.sics.se/%7Eadam/contiki/docs/a01856.html>
> However this is not to be found on the contiki folder.
> Can anyone share the experience of using this platform and explain why 
> it disappeared from the official distribution?

Did you find this page?

http://senstools.gforge.inria.fr/doku.php?id=os:contiki

It has downloads for contiki-2.4

andy

> Thanks,
> Gonçalo
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Sean Leo <sean.w.leo@... 
> <mailto:sean.w.leo@...>> wrote:
>
>     Thank you all for the explanations/clarifications! I guess the
>     lack of hardware DSSS support would be a problem.
>
>      <at> Gonçalo
>     Sorry that I didn't notice it's a private email :-P
>
>     Regards,
>     Sean
>
>
>
>     On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:08 PM, David Kopf <dak664@...
>     <mailto:dak664@...>> wrote:
>
>         If you can implement a radio_send(packetptr,packetlen) and a
>         packetlen=radio_receive(packetptr) a bare radio driver is not
>         hard. Software
>         calls for power on and off, packet pending, and cca are only
>         needed for
>         radio duty cycling. You can make use of whatever hardware
>         functions you have
>         for csma and autoack; they will be transparent to contiki.
>
>         But that is not an 802.15.4 radio, and 6lowpan uses the
>         802.15.4 fields for
>         header compression. So you either embed 802.15.4 in your own
>         protocol, or
>         modify contiki to use another protocol. In any case the < 1GHz
>         frequency is
>         not compatible with the 2.5GHz 802.15.4 band used by most
>         devices. Don't
>         know if the modulation is compatible with the existing or
>         proposed sub-1GHz
>         802.15.4 bands.
>
>         There is an experimental native border router that runs
>         contiki on a host
>         process and sends/receives low level packets through a serial
>         link to a
>         radio dongle. That dongle could easily wrap the contiki
>         packets with any
>         custom serial or RF protocol.
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Gonçalo Bernardo
>         Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:13 AM
>         To: Contiki developer mailing list
>         Subject: Re: [Contiki-developers] Further Discussion About A
>         Port to TI
>         CC430(MSP430 SoC with CC1101 RF Core)
>
>
>         The thread [cc1101 in Contiki] is not a thread but a private
>         message. But,
>         anyway: the nesC code is provided by Sownet which sells a node
>         with that
>         radio (CC1101). A translation of this code shouldn't be
>         difficult but it
>         would help a lot understanding a bit more the Contiki stack
>         and knowing
>         which functions does it expect from a radio driver. Is there
>         documentation
>         on this?
>
>         However as an intermediate step I set out to port the simple blink
>         application to prove that the whole toolchain works and even
>         this isn't that
>         easy. My platform has a MSP430F2418 and the code under the
>         cpu/ folder isn't
>         generic for the whole MSP430 family. So you get erros in
>         registers'names for
>         SPI, UART, etc.
>
>         I think the big question is if the Contiki core developers
>         want to make it
>         easy to port or not. I mean, everyone knows this is not an
>         easy issue, but
>         welcome to the embedded world and its thousands of hardware
>         configurations!
>
>         Have a nice day,
>         Gonçalo
>
>         On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Sean Leo
>         <sean.w.leo@... <mailto:sean.w.leo@...>>
>         wrote:
>         I must point out that the NanoStack 2.0 specifically supports
>         CC430, not
>         just "potentially support" as I mentioned before.
>
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Sean Leo
>         <sean.w.leo@... <mailto:sean.w.leo@...>>
>         wrote:
>         Hey guys,
>
>         In a previous thread [Any Contiki Port to TI CC430(MSP430 SoC
>         with CC1101 RF
>         Core)?] at
>         http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28731679
>
>         (1) Gonçalo and Ansays mentioned that they are working on
>         porting Contiki to
>         two different motes both with CC1101 independently;
>         (2) Maciek says that "You can port Contiki to that, but it
>         won't be
>         compatible with other devices (ravens, econotags, etc.)";
>         (3) Jon says that "......, it just means that it(CC1101,
>         commented by Sean)
>         probably can't talk to standard 802.15.4 radios. It is likely
>         that it can't
>         generate ACKs with the proper timing."
>
>         Since some people here either have the similar interest as me
>         or have
>         already done some related work, I dug a little bit on the web
>         and found two
>         pieces of information that might be interesting to some of
>         you. Moreover,
>         I'd like to know more people interested or working on such a
>         port so that we
>         might be able to progress faster.
>
>         I found one proprietary binary library which potentially
>         supports CC430 and
>         it's also listed on TI's CC430 official web page. It's
>         Nanostack at
>         http://www.sensinode.com/EN/products/software.html
>
>         And the other is OSIAN(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSIAN),
>         which is
>         probably well-known to the TinyOS community. The OSIAN stack
>         was designed
>         primarily for CC430 and it was claimed to be open source.
>         However, I don't
>         see any recent updates in the code repository and I also
>         couldn't open its
>         official website(http://www.openosian.net/). Plus, the development
>         platform(SuRF Developers Kit,
>         http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/05/people-power-gadgets/)
>         previously
>         offered by People Power(http://www.peoplepowerco.com),  which
>         developed
>         OSIAN, doesn't seem available any more.
>
>         According to these information, I guess point (3) above can be
>         answered. I
>         still don't understand what Maciek pointed out in (2). Why
>         such a port won't
>         be compatible? And I read another thread [cc1101 in Contiki]
>         posted by
>         Gonçalo which attached a CC1101 driver written in nesC, I'm
>         wondering which
>         project it belongs to and how it is going with getting it working?
>
>         Please join us and discuss more about a Contiki port to CC430.
>
>         Regards,
>         Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Regarding network created by motes.

Hello,

motes in RPL network are not fully connected - they form a Directed Acyclic Graph:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph

One of the nodes is the DAG root - usually the border router. RPL's main assumption is that motes mostly send info not between themselves, but to the outside Internet.

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2012/1/31 bharatesh regoudar <bharateshr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Dear friends.

When a set up of several motes is done. Are they form a fixed topology within them self or it is a fully connected network. as per reference given below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

What I think is. network of such motes is fully connected and routing protocols like rpl help in finding optimum path within them.
please clarify

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Re: Regarding RPL objective function.

bharatesh regoudar skrev 2012-01-31 15:51:
> Dear friends.
>
> Following document, gives a detailed information about RPL protocol, 
> it also gives information about Objective function. So may I know is 
> it possible to control Objective function,  in RPL implemented by 
> contiki. Any hints or links to useful information.
>
> http://home.dei.polimi.it/cesana/teaching/IoT/papers/routing/RPL.pdf
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Bharatesh Regoudar
>

rpl-of-etx.c and rpl-of0.c provide implementations of two objective 
functions. They implement an API specified in the rpl_of_t structure. 
The main logic for controlling the topology is in the functions 
calculate_rank() and best_parent(), which you may implement using a 
different set of metrics than the ones provided.

When adding a new objective function module, you need to set RPL_CONF_OF 
correctly (see description in rpl.h), and modify the source file 
inclusion list in Makefile.rpl.

Nicolas

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Re: Regarding RPL objective function.

Dear Nicolas

Thanks a lot for you valuable information.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Nicolas Tsiftes <nvt-02ecni/8Nmo@public.gmane.org> wrote:
bharatesh regoudar skrev 2012-01-31 15:51:
> Dear friends.
>
> Following document, gives a detailed information about RPL protocol,
> it also gives information about Objective function. So may I know is
> it possible to control Objective function,  in RPL implemented by
> contiki. Any hints or links to useful information.
>
> http://home.dei.polimi.it/cesana/teaching/IoT/papers/routing/RPL.pdf
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Bharatesh Regoudar
>

rpl-of-etx.c and rpl-of0.c provide implementations of two objective
functions. They implement an API specified in the rpl_of_t structure.
The main logic for controlling the topology is in the functions
calculate_rank() and best_parent(), which you may implement using a
different set of metrics than the ones provided.

When adding a new objective function module, you need to set RPL_CONF_OF
correctly (see description in rpl.h), and modify the source file
inclusion list in Makefile.rpl.

Nicolas

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Cooja: sun-java6 dependency -> Js/Rhino

Hi there

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bharatesh regoudar | 1 Feb 2012 12:37
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Re: Regarding network created by motes.

Dear Maciej Wasilak

Thanks for reply. I know, rpl forms DAG. But my question is, if there is no rpl,  few motes are scattered around. Then in that case such a motes form fully connected network or not. Here I want to know a general understanding of network topology in case of Smart objects.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maciej Wasilak <wasilak <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

motes in RPL network are not fully connected - they form a Directed Acyclic Graph:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph

One of the nodes is the DAG root - usually the border router. RPL's main assumption is that motes mostly send info not between themselves, but to the outside Internet.

Regards
Maciek

2012/1/31 bharatesh regoudar <bharateshr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Dear friends.

When a set up of several motes is done. Are they form a fixed topology within them self or it is a fully connected network. as per reference given below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

What I think is. network of such motes is fully connected and routing protocols like rpl help in finding optimum path within them.
please clarify

Thanks and Regards
Bharatesh Regoudar

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Moritz Struebe | 1 Feb 2012 13:17
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Re: Cooja: sun-java6 dependency -> Js/Rhino

Hey there.

As always, one fixes the problem after writing a mail. Here is a patch
that should allow to use Cooja with OpenJDK. I don't know whether there
are further problems, though.

http://i4git.cs.fau.de/contiki.git/blob/patches:/cooja_fix_openjdk_logscript

Cheers
Morty

On 2012-02-01 12:31, Moritz Struebe wrote:
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> I put some time into troubles with Cooja an Java. It boils down to the
> rhino behaving different in sun-java and openjdk: The log-object will
> not work in open-jdk and therefore scripting is more or less unusable.
> Is anyone familiar with rhino and interested in sorting this out?
>
> Cheers
> Morty

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Maciej Wasilak | 1 Feb 2012 13:18
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Re: Regarding network created by motes.

Hello,

this question is too general - specify which protocol is used by these motes. You mean IPv6 only?.

In IPv6 only motes can send messages to their neighbours - which means motes in their radio range. Passing messages to motes outside radio range is not possible at all (you won't know which link-layer address to use). It's not a fully connected network.

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2012/2/1 bharatesh regoudar <bharateshr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Dear Maciej Wasilak

Thanks for reply. I know, rpl forms DAG. But my question is, if there is no rpl,  few motes are scattered around. Then in that case such a motes form fully connected network or not. Here I want to know a general understanding of network topology in case of Smart objects.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maciej Wasilak <wasilak-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hello,

motes in RPL network are not fully connected - they form a Directed Acyclic Graph:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph

One of the nodes is the DAG root - usually the border router. RPL's main assumption is that motes mostly send info not between themselves, but to the outside Internet.

Regards
Maciek

2012/1/31 bharatesh regoudar <bharateshr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Dear friends.

When a set up of several motes is done. Are they form a fixed topology within them self or it is a fully connected network. as per reference given below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

What I think is. network of such motes is fully connected and routing protocols like rpl help in finding optimum path within them.
please clarify

Thanks and Regards
Bharatesh Regoudar

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