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Angela | 1 Mar 2007 22:10
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Wikimania - would you like to present or review the submissions?

Wikimania, Wikimedia's annual global conference for the community, has
today released its call for participation.
http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Particpation

We will shortly be accepting submissions for presentations, panels,
discussions, posters, and more. I would like to encourage all
community members to make a submission. Wikimania is the wiki
conference aimed at the Wikimedia community, so it's essential that
you are represented here. If there is something interesting about your
wiki that you want to share with 400 Wikimedians in Taipei this
summer, please respond to this call for participation.

We are also looking for volunteers to review the submissions made and
help us to choose what will be presented at Wikimania. Depending on
what you would like to review, please contact one of the following
people to let them know you would like to help.

Wikimedia Communities presentations: Angela Beesley:
http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Angela

Free Content presentations: Phoebe Ayers:
http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Brassratgirl

Technical infrastructure presentations: James Forrester:
http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jdforrester

Posters and Panels (all themes): Jakob Voss:
http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JakobVoss

Artistic artifacts, Workshops, and Birds-of-a-Feather (all themes):
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Minh Nguyen | 9 Mar 2007 11:45
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Re: [Logo] One True Wiktionary logo

Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Aphaia wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> [[m:Logo]] claims logo should be consistent. I agree.
>> This document shows us the "scrabble" type logo as Wiktionary logo; at
>> least it was a result of straw poll. I am not sure if the Wiktionary
>> active editors love it. Perhaps not.
>> On the Wikimedia Foundation website, on "Our projects" table and
>> [[Wikimedia:Our projects]], both pages show visitors the old one (dic
>> entry type) logo as project logo.
>>
> Has anyone bothered to check whether the Scrabble people have any IP 
> issues with using that logo?
> 
> Ec

If I recall correctly, the logo was intentionally a cross between 
Scrabble and Mahjong. I'm not sure if it would help us that the generic 
Mahjong tile design isn't trademarked, if it ever came to dealing with 
"the Scrabble people". (lol, that just reminds me of the old children's 
TV show "The Letter People". [1]

In my opinion, it's not that big of a deal if the Vietnamese Wiktionary 
is the only edition to adopt the tiles; the Galego Wiktionary has always 
featured a logo that appears to be a lectionary or Bible. I get the 
feeling that many of the editions would've already switched if they saw 
enough of the other editions switching. The Italian Wiktionary, for 
example, has an enormous copy of the tiles logo right under the fold, 
and the Korean Wiktionary uses elements of the logo throughout the site.
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Milos Rancic | 10 Mar 2007 06:29
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Some methods for generation of dictionaries

I am forwarding to you the first (not complete) version of the page
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Millosh/Dictionaries .

At the end of this month I'll have some software for such generation
of dictionaries. So, it would be good to hear what do you think about
that and is there someone interested to join this project. Maybe
Gerard may think how to implement such thing in the OmegaWiki, too :)

The page is not completed (stages 2 and 3 are not described), but I
think that you may follow my idea anyway. I'll complete the page in
the next few weeks and I'll inform you about that.

* * *

In this moment I am working on one Serbian dictionary of synonyms.
During that work I got some ideas about the work on Wiktionaries:

Let's say what one word with synonyms/translations is enough for one
word in Wiktionary. (Maybe I should read some Wiktionary
documentation, but I suppose that this is the minimum.)

In short, this may be done for a dozens of languages on a dozens of
Wiktionaries.

==Stage 1, one language dictionary==
*Take some dictionary between English (or whatever language) and your
language. Of course, take it in machine readable format (not
encrypted).
*Take the first word in (let's say) English.
*Take the first translation in your language. Connect this word in
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Erik Moeller | 11 Mar 2007 03:20
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Planet Wikimedia: Add your blog feeds

We have just launched http://planet.wikimedia.org/ , which is an
aggregator for all on-topic wiki-related weblog (blog) posts by
participants in Wikimedia projects. The planet can be found at:

http://planet.wikimedia.org/

To get added, please follow the instructions at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Planet_Wikimedia

This is a kind of beta test, and right now, the planet is in the
English language; however, I have prepared a process for requesting
new languages to be set up here:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Planet_Wikimedia/New_language

So please add your support if you wish to aggregate blog posts in
another language.

Again, this is for on-topic posts, not for diary entries. All feeds
must either point to a blog which is almost exclusively about wikis,
or filtered (WordPress, Blogger and other common blog engines all
support filtered feeds by categorizing your posts, e.g., adding the
"wiki" category to all posts which you want to be included in the
planet). If this makes you feel uncomfortable, you can (in addition or
in substitution) add your blog to http://wikiblogplanet.com/ , which
does not filter posts for on-topicness. WikiBlogPlanet is run
independently by Nick Jenkins.

I hope that this new tool will allow us to share useful and
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Brion Vibber | 31 Mar 2007 07:19
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Klingon Wiktionary closed


Per the announcement I put in the sitenotice last month, I have locked
the Klingon-language Wiktionary, http://tlh.wiktionary.org/

As far as I know there was never any deliberate intention to have such a
site (it would have been automatically created alongside the Klingon
Wikipedia), and it was forgotten when the Klingon Wikipedia was closed.
As soon as I was notified of its existence I put up the notice that it
would not stay, so anyone working on it would be aware.

The only response I got to my notice was this very rude message, which
was hidden away where I never saw it until today:
http://tlh.wiktionary.org/wiki/lo%27wI%27_ja%27chuq:Brion_VIBBER

It seems pretty clear to me that the site doesn't serve any legitimate
purpose to Wikimedia's mission; while it may be _fun_ it would be better
hosted somewhere else, perhaps whereever the Klingon Wikipedia ended up?

If there's some legitimate reason to reopen it, let me know. We could
hand the question off to the Language Committee if desired.

-- brion vibber (brion  <at>  wikimedia.org)
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Elisabeth Anderl | 31 Mar 2007 09:54
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Re: Klingon Wiktionary closed

What legitimate purpose to Wikimedia's mission do serve then Esperanto, 
Ido, Interlingua, Interlingue, etc. Wiktionaries?
You might want to lock all invented languages then.
The message You got on tlh.wikt. is unaccaptable. But it should not be a 
reason for closing that wikt.
Please have a look at the statements here 
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9164

The reason to reopen it is:
It is a _dictionary_ of an invented language. We have other Wiktionaries 
of that kind.
Also, as I could see, there are quite active contributors there, so this 
wikt. got even bigger than some of the other mentioned invented 
languages sites not closed.

Thanks,
best regards,
Elisabeth Anderl -aka- spacebirdy

Brion Vibber escribió:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Per the announcement I put in the sitenotice last month, I have locked
> the Klingon-language Wiktionary, http://tlh.wiktionary.org/
>
> As far as I know there was never any deliberate intention to have such a
> site (it would have been automatically created alongside the Klingon
> Wikipedia), and it was forgotten when the Klingon Wikipedia was closed.
> As soon as I was notified of its existence I put up the notice that it
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Oldak Quill | 31 Mar 2007 16:12
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Re: Klingon Wiktionary closed

On 31/03/07, Elisabeth Anderl
<n9502784@...> wrote:
> What legitimate purpose to Wikimedia's mission do serve then Esperanto,
> Ido, Interlingua, Interlingue, etc. Wiktionaries?
> You might want to lock all invented languages then.
> The message You got on tlh.wikt. is unaccaptable. But it should not be a
> reason for closing that wikt.
> Please have a look at the statements here
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9164
>
> The reason to reopen it is:
> It is a _dictionary_ of an invented language. We have other Wiktionaries
> of that kind.
> Also, as I could see, there are quite active contributors there, so this
> wikt. got even bigger than some of the other mentioned invented
> languages sites not closed.

One can't dismiss all constructed languages out of hand. Esperanto,
for one, has an ISO 639 code (1, 2, and 3) and has a signficant level
of usage. Several other constructed languages come close to this.

Despite Klingon not being the same in terms of real-world usage, I'm
not sure what harm such projects do. If they bring people to Wikimedia
who wouldn't otherwise be here, then they are good.

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Oldak Quill | 31 Mar 2007 16:18
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Re: Klingon Wiktionary closed

On 31/03/07, Elisabeth Anderl <n9502784 <at> students.meduniwien.ac.at> wrote:
> What legitimate purpose to Wikimedia's mission do serve then Esperanto,
> Ido, Interlingua, Interlingue, etc. Wiktionaries?
> You might want to lock all invented languages then.
> The message You got on tlh.wikt. is unaccaptable. But it should not be a
> reason for closing that wikt.
> Please have a look at the statements here
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9164
>
> The reason to reopen it is:
> It is a _dictionary_ of an invented language. We have other Wiktionaries
> of that kind.
> Also, as I could see, there are quite active contributors there, so this
> wikt. got even bigger than some of the other mentioned invented
> languages sites not closed.
>
> Thanks,
> best regards,
> Elisabeth Anderl -aka- spacebirdy
>
> Brion Vibber escribió:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Per the announcement I put in the sitenotice last month, I have locked
> > the Klingon-language Wiktionary, http://tlh.wiktionary.org/
> >
> > As far as I know there was never any deliberate intention to have such a
> > site (it would have been automatically created alongside the Klingon
> > Wikipedia), and it was forgotten when the Klingon Wikipedia was closed.
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GerardM | 31 Mar 2007 16:28
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Re: Klingon Wiktionary closed

Hoi,
The closure of the tlh.wikipedia was announced by Jimmy Wales at Wikimania
.. The room cheered and thought it a good idea. This was before the
lanuguage committee was started.

When you read the phrasing about languages, you will find that an ISO-639
code is a requirement. This does however not imply at all that it guarantees
the creation of a project. With the ISO-639-6 it is likely that there will
be a code for the American orthography (among others) for the English
language. This will not imply at all that it will be ok to split the English
language Wikipedia.

Having two projects for Belarus is a really bad situation.  For me the
only reasonable
outcome would be when the two projects merge.

The existence of new policies does not imply that they will be retroactively
applied. When this is thought to be unfair, I do agree, it is often not
fair.

Thanks,
     GerardM

On 3/31/07, Oldak Quill <oldakquill <at> gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 31/03/07, Elisabeth Anderl <n9502784 <at> students.meduniwien.ac.at> wrote:
> > What legitimate purpose to Wikimedia's mission do serve then Esperanto,
> > Ido, Interlingua, Interlingue, etc. Wiktionaries?
> > You might want to lock all invented languages then.
> > The message You got on tlh.wikt. is unaccaptable. But it should not be a
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Oldak Quill | 31 Mar 2007 16:32
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Re: Klingon Wiktionary closed

On 31/03/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen@...> wrote:
> When you read the phrasing about languages, you will find that an ISO-639
> code is a requirement. This does however not imply at all that it guarantees
> the creation of a project. With the ISO-639-6 it is likely that there will
> be a code for the American orthography (among others) for the English
> language. This will not imply at all that it will be ok to split the English
> language Wikipedia.

I was merely suggesting that if we take ISO-639 to be our basis as to
what is a language and what is not a language, Klingon passes the
mark. Your American English example isn't quite the same since
American English still has an expression in Wikimedia project. At the
moment, the Klingon language has no representation on any Wikimedia
project (effectively).

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