Update on language codes and Wikidata/Ultimate Wiktionary

Hoi,
I found a nice update on the ISO 639-3 website .. 
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/default.asp is where you can even find a 
nice introductory page on the next version of this standard. For the 
hardcore language nuts among us there is even a nice download available 
including instructions on how to create an SQL table.

In the first public genuine Wikidata outing, we will show you the GEMET 
data in a true Wikidata environment. For those who do not know, GEMET is 
a thesaurus with ecological content produced for/by the European Union. 
Our aim is to be able to have this on line before Christmas, it will be 
a read only implementation.

We will also include the ISO-639-3 codes. As you may know, Wiktionary 
has the explicit aim to include all words of all languages. Ultimate 
Wiktionary (UW) shares this aim and shares the practice with the many 
wiktionary that we explicitly intent to include all lexicological 
content. As UW intends to eat its own dog food, we want to have 
localised labels for the languages chosen by the user for the User 
Interface. When localisation for a term is not available, we will have 
English as the lingua franca of this day and age.

The consequence is that there will be a clear difference between the 
user interface of Ultimate Wiktionary and the user interface of 
Mediawiki. UW does not intent to endorse a language for new projects, 
but it is likely that people will be stimulated to work on the Mediawiki 
user interface in order to have a user interface that is completely 
localised. I expect that people appreciate this difference.

In the ISO-639-3 codes there will be languages that have not been 

Uzbek wiktionary

Hi, by chance I had a look at uz.wiktionary.org - it is being vandalised 
(or better spammed with urls) regularly, but up to now has no obvious 
contents. wouldn't it make sense to block it from being edited? Or at 
least find someone who looks after it once a month to do the clean-up 
(having admin rights)?

Thanks,

Sabine

		
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Re: Uzbek wiktionary

Sabine Cretella wrote:

> Hi, by chance I had a look at uz.wiktionary.org - it is being 
> vandalised (or better spammed with urls) regularly, but up to now has 
> no obvious contents. wouldn't it make sense to block it from being 
> edited? Or at least find someone who looks after it once a month to do 
> the clean-up (having admin rights)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sabine
>
>
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Hello Sabine,
I constantly report those spam entries on meta, also other small 
Wiktionaries are affected (also other small Wikiprojects).
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist#4t7e.5C.info
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist#www.010b.info
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist#www.e16.info
Please report spam also there.

I agree with you to protect those pages. (unfortunately no one has sysop 

Donation

Hoi,
On the Dutch Wiktionary user:Marcel had the good sense to add the word 
"donatie". I have included a pronunciation and the missing translations 
from the English Wiktionary (I have my doubts about the translation in 
Yiddish). Subsequently I copied the data to the Italian Wiktionary.

Now that we need a lot of money to give our favourite resource a 
brilliant future, could we not make sure that we get a REALLY big amount 
of translations to this word.. The trick is that in order to do this, we 
have to collaborate :) It would be one way of showing that we care :)

Thanks,
    GerardM

[Fwd: Just for fun]

Hoi,
There are some people that do not like the name "Ultimate Wiktionary" 
for the Ultimate Project. The name is used for the project. This does 
not mean that we have to use ultimate.wiktionary.org as its URL. Sue 
Ellen came up with the name Wiktionary2, Arle came up with this design.

I am sure there will be more suggestions to choose from.. We just have 
to come up with them :)

Thanks,
   GerardM

Just for fun:

Same font as the Wikipedia logo (Hoefler Text, which demonstrates 
someone in the early stages of Wikipedia was a Mac user since Hoefler 
Text is an Apple font).

Take this as something tossed out: even if the name Wiktionary^2 is 
used, I won't be hurt if this isn't used...

-Arle

Re: [Fwd: Just for fun]

Hoi,
As the logo provided by Arle was not included by the mail server, I
have uploaded it to Commons..
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktionary2.gif

Thanks,
   GerardM

On 12/21/05, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> There are some people that do not like the name "Ultimate Wiktionary"
> for the Ultimate Project. The name is used for the project. This does
> not mean that we have to use ultimate.wiktionary.org as its URL. Sue
> Ellen came up with the name Wiktionary2, Arle came up with this design.
>
> I am sure there will be more suggestions to choose from.. We just have
> to come up with them :)
>
> Thanks,
>    GerardM
>
>
> Just for fun:
>
>
>
> Same font as the Wikipedia logo (Hoefler Text, which demonstrates
> someone in the early stages of Wikipedia was a Mac user since Hoefler
> Text is an Apple font).
>

[Fwd: [Fwd: Just for fun]]

Hoi,
As the suggested logo was not included by the mail server, I did upload 
for you to Commons.. It can be found here 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktionary2.gif
Thanks,
   GerardM

Hoi,
There are some people that do not like the name "Ultimate Wiktionary" 
for the Ultimate Project. The name is used for the project. This does 
not mean that we have to use ultimate.wiktionary.org as its URL. Sue 
Ellen came up with the name Wiktionary2, Arle came up with this design.

I am sure there will be more suggestions to choose from.. We just have 
to come up with them :)

Thanks,
  GerardM

Just for fun:

Same font as the Wikipedia logo (Hoefler Text, which demonstrates 
someone in the early stages of Wikipedia was a Mac user since Hoefler 
Text is an Apple font).

Take this as something tossed out: even if the name Wiktionary^2 is 
used, I won't be hurt if this isn't used...

-Arle

Please aprove an e-mail pending distribution

Hoi
An  e-mail awaits I was extremely happy to sen awaits approval for
further distribution.. Its problem is that it has too many
recipients..

Could someone please oblige me :)
Thanks,
  GerardM

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A Christmas present on Boxing day

Hoi,
I am extremely happy that I can inform you on Boxing day that a tired
Erik has produced the first tangible result of the Wikidata / Ultimate
Wiktionary project. It shows that we want great content in many
languages, that we want to include thesaurus information and that we
are happy to include with gratitude content like the Gemet thesaurus.

:) I want to thank Erik for working really hard to make this happen :)

Thanks,
   Gerard ..

This is the text of Erik's E-mail to the Wikitech mailinglist:
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Ho ho ho,

we now have our first read-only prototype of Ultimate Wiktionary /
Wikidata, using a subset of the final UW design. This subset is a
complex, versioned relational database that can model
- lexical items (words, short phrases) with multiple meanings
- synonyms and translations, on the meaning level
- other relationships between them, on the meaning level.

The prototype is at:
http://epov.org/wd-gemet/index.php/Main_Page

It contains over 70,000 words in 22 languages; many of them have
definitions. The definitions usually come in 4 languages. As I
understand it, we can have this data under the GFDL, but it's just one
of many building blocks we will use in seeding the UW.

creation of a Lombard wiktionary

 Sirs,
    I am now asking a wiktionary to be initalized for the already existing lombard wikipedia: http://lmo.wikipedia.org.
    Many thanks.
    Sincerely yours,

    Claudio Meneghini

		
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