Sj | 1 Apr 01:46 2005
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"what does that mean?"

Charming phrase/neologism site:

http://www.whatdoesthatmean.com/index.php/Welcome_to_%27Whatdoesthatmean%3F%27

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Erik Zachte | 2 Apr 03:37 2005
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Wikistats for all WikiMedia projects

Wikistats are now available for all Wikimedia projects.

Stats have been generated from the latest dumps, which are from March 9.

Wikipedias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/EN/Sitemap.htm

Wiktionaries (use refresh button when you see old stats)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/Sitemap.htm 

Wikiquotes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wikiquote/EN/Sitemap.htm

Wikibooks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wikibooks/EN/Sitemap.htm

Wikinews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wikinews/EN/Sitemap.htm

Wikispecial: wikisource/meta/sep11/species/commons/foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wikispecial/EN/Sitemap.htm

For further discussion see
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-April/002762.html

Erik Zachte
Yann Forget | 2 Apr 10:36 2005
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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikistats for Wiktionary

Hi Erik,

Thanks for your stats.
As always, great work!

Le Saturday 2 April 2005 03:37, Erik Zachte a écrit :
> Wikistats are now available for all Wikimedia projects.
>
> Stats have been generated from the latest dumps, which are from March 9.
>
> Wiktionaries (use refresh button when you see old stats)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/Sitemap.htm
>
> Erik Zachte

I don't understand why there are important differences for the numbers of 
articles for some Wiktionaries with the manual count (from 
Special:Statistics) at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/TablesArticlesTotal.htm :
* 323 vs. 209 for Esperanto (eo)
* 301 vs. 83 for Serbian (sr)

There are also curious figures for database size
http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/TablesDatabaseSize.htm

3.4 M for Esperanto (eo) for 323/209 articles
32 M for Interlingua (ia) for 253 articles
1.1 M for Slovak (sk) for 21 articles
14 M for Basque (eu) for 60 articles

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Muke Tever | 2 Apr 16:41 2005
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Re: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikistats for Wiktionary

Yann Forget <yann@...> wrote:
> I don't understand why there are important differences for the numbers of
> articles for some Wiktionaries with the manual count (from
> Special:Statistics) at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/TablesArticlesTotal.htm :
> * 323 vs. 209 for Esperanto (eo)
> * 301 vs. 83 for Serbian (sr)

Maybe the stats counter does not count an article whose links are all in
templates as having a link in the article itself?

Or maybe it's just that it's using a slightly outdated version of the
database -- it's dated March 9.

> There are also curious figures for database size
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/TablesDatabaseSize.htm
>
> 3.4 M for Esperanto (eo) for 323/209 articles

Several large index pages, such as
http://eo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vortaro_Germana-Esperanta_d

> 32 M for Interlingua (ia) for 253 articles

Interlingua has a lot of index pages, also.

> 1.1 M for Slovak (sk) for 21 articles

That *is* odd.
http://sk.wiktionary.org/wiki/Špeciálne:Longpages
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Gerard Meijssen | 4 Apr 11:36 2005
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Ultimate wiktionary - ultimate.wiktionary.org ??

Hoi,

I just reailised that with ultimate wiktionary, there will be a need to 
have an URL where the Ultimate Wiktionary will be located. I do not 
think it is acceptable to host the Ultimate Wiktionary as wiktionary.org 
as this is the current portal page. Therefore I think something like 
*ultimate.wiktionary.org* would be as good a choise as any.

When a Wiktionary decides to merge into the Ultimate wiktionary, this 
domain will be a redirect to the Ultimate Wiktionary. Technically there 
will be a need to redirect references in Wikipedia when a Wiktionary is 
migrated. Linking from the Ultimate Wiktionary to Wikipedia or any other 
project should remain the same. It should be obvious that the Ultimate 
Wiktionary can use all resources of all Wiktionaries. It is as obvious 
that any Wiktionary can use the resources of the Ultimate Wiktionary.

Thanks,
   GerardM
Erik Zachte | 8 Apr 04:53 2005
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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikistats for Wiktionary

Yann:

> I don't understand why there are important differences for the numbers of
> articles for some Wiktionaries with the manual count (from
> Special:Statistics) .....

> There are also curious figures for database size
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/wiktionary/EN/TablesDatabaseSize.htm

I already anwered Yann a few days ago privately but didn't realize the
question had been posted here, so here is the answer.

Erik Zachte

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== 1 ==

For database size I checked sk:

The dump is full of spam!, which has been reverted since, see for example
http://sk.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki&oldid=1725

== 2 ==

For article counts I checked Serbian dump.
There has clearly been a massive cleanup (either delete or move) since last
dump.

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Angela | 24 Apr 03:47 2005
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Conference report from South Africa

This is a brief report from the FLOSS Conference in South Africa that
Erik and I attended this week. A more detailed version is on Meta at
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conference_reports/FLOSS%2C_South_Africa_2005>;
so please read that one instead if you have time.

I was invited to give a presentation about the Wikimedia projects at
the international "Free/Libre and Open Source Software" (FLOSS) and
Free Knowledge workshop in Pretoria, South Africa. Erik was given the
opportunity to hold a workshop there about wiki technology. The byline
for the conference was "Knowledge for all, Education for all", so the
Wikimedia projects fitted in perfectly.

The first day was made up of formal presentations. A list of these is
on Meta. My talk was part of a "Digital Commons" panel. Much of the
second day was divided into two workshops, including Erik's. The theme
of Free Knowledge Communities was discussed on day 3, and there were
many areas in which Wikimedia projects could collaborate with existing
initiatives, and new ideas for using Wikimedia content:

    * Spoken Wikipedia by cell phone. Many areas of Africa have high
cell phone coverage with access to SMS. Teemu Leinonen of the
University of Art and Design Helsinki is working on a project to allow
a user to send an SMS with the article title to a phone number. A few
seconds later, they get a call on their cell phone with a (usually
machine-generated) spoken version of the article they requested.
    * Wikipedia in schools. Static HTML dumps on DVD, offline
applications that allow editing, and update feeds like rsync to
maintain offline copies, were all requested by people working on
getting Wikipedia into schools. Where people were interested in print
projects, they wanted to focus on printing out particular topics,
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Anthere | 24 Apr 12:52 2005
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Re: Conference report from South Africa

Thanks a lot to both of you for the good report and spreading the word ;-)

Now, good luck with cleaning one week mail :-)

ant

Angela a écrit:
> This is a brief report from the FLOSS Conference in South Africa that
> Erik and I attended this week. A more detailed version is on Meta at
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conference_reports/FLOSS%2C_South_Africa_2005>;
> so please read that one instead if you have time.
GerardM | 26 Apr 10:11 2005
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Papiamento pap-an and pap-ar

Hoi,
I learned that there are two ways of writing Papiamento. The Aruban
way and the Antilian way. In order to distinguish these two versions,
I have added pap-ar and pap-an as the two ways in which you can write
Papiamento..

The content we received from FrankC is Antilliaans.

Thanks,
    GerardM
Gerard Meijssen | 30 Apr 14:37 2005
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[Fwd: Wiktionary presentation]

Hoi,
I did send this message using the wrong mail-ID so I do it again using a 
forward. This is my request to speak at Wikimania.
Thanks,
    GerardM

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Wiktionary presentation
Date: 	Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:28:34 +0200
From: 	Gerard Meijssen <gerardm@...>
To: 	cfp@...
CC: 	wiktionary-l@...

Hoi,
Several times I have tried to make sure that we would have a wiktionary 
presentation. I was told that this could not be as I already am slotted 
to speak. That workshop I would gladly do away with in order to be able 
to speak about Wiktionary. Wiktionary will become very relevan for many 
people and as I say in my presentation this will be increasingly true. 
The one thing that Ultimate Wiktionary does is synthesising one 
lexicilogical resource potentially containing all words of all languages.

I believe that with the intial deployment of the Ultimate Wiktionary, we 
will continue on a learning curve that will result in something 
extraordinary.

Thanks,
GerardM
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