Andrew Lih | 7 Mar 2013 22:35
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Google enters into agreement with MPEG LA to protect WebM

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Victor Grigas | 28 Feb 2013 01:25
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Community Driven Video Production Portal

Posted this a week ago:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Community-Driven_Video_Production_portal

Please read and comment!

Victor Grigas

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Wikimedia Foundation
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Andrew Lih | 23 Feb 2013 00:50
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Wiki Makes Video project

Hi all,

Thought I'd let you know about this proposal for a Wikipedia-oriented video project, and welcome your feedback and comments there at the bottom of the page.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Wiki_Makes_Video

More details about the particulars of the video efforts so far, undertaken by my two students:


-Andrew

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Michael Dale | 2 Feb 2013 17:20
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Re: Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC & mobile app feature request.

+wikivideo-l list as well. Note this has already been merged, but still worth mention for visibility.

On 2/1/13 12:10 PM, Michael Dale wrote:
We are about to merge in support for audio derivatives to Timed Media Handler (TMH). The big value here, I think is encoding to AAC or MP3 and adding a listen to this article feature to the mobile app.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39363/

This can really help with improving accessibility of Wiktionary pronunciation media files as well.

Also AAC / m4v ingestion, could make audio recordings a lot easier to import into the site, i.e a "record a reading of this article" mobile app feature #2  ;)

There are already thousands of spoken articles, with some promotion their could probably be a lot be more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Spoken_articles

The software patent situation for mp3 is sad, considering how long the mp3 format has been around:
http://www.tunequest.org/a-big-list-of-mp3-patents/20070226/

I think AAC is a similar situation, encoder wise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding#Licensing_and_patents

But fundamentally Wikimedia is not "distributing" these encoders and there are no royalties for media distribution. Likewise we are not shipping decoders ( the decoders are in browser or the mobile OS )

I don't know why Wikimedia's commitment to being accessible in royalty free formats, somehow also precludes making content accessible for folks on platforms that ~don't~ decode royalty free formats. But hopefully we can change that over time.

Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I hope we could come out of this thread with rough consensus to enable these formats to help increase the reach of audio works.

peace,
--michael

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Rob Lanphier | 21 Sep 2012 00:35
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Re: TMH update, was Re: TimedMediaHandler with videos from commons

Hi everyone,

There's a private thread that veered into territory we could take
public, so I'm continuing a conversation Michael Dale started.  To
catch everyone up, we're discussing what's needed to deploy
TimedMediaHandler more widely to the cluster.  As you may recall,
there's a video test page here:
http://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JanGerber/sandbox

Two problem we're discussing about this page:
*  Broken thumbnails
*  Seek bar/time indicator fail to progress during playback

More below...

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michael Dale <mdale@...> wrote:
> For the bar / time indicator updates its, related to the jQuery 1.8 update,
> we need to schedule the updated deployment of the version that is in the
> git.

Which revisions need to get deployed at this point?  I think at least
some of the proposed fixes went out with 1.20wmf12.  If there are
additional changes that need to get pushed, we can potentially do
those out of cycle.

> I am not sure about the status of the imagescallers, including the updated
> versions of ffmpeg ?

That's dependent on the upgrade from Lucid to Precise on those
machines.  I just spoke with Peter Youngmeister (who is doing that
work), and he says he'll likely get that done next week (contingent on
some package building work that he hopes to wrap up tomorrow).

Rob

Terry Chay | 25 Jul 2012 23:28
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Re: TMH Update

Jan

	Very cool! Works for me on the browsers that it's supposed to (FF, Chrome). There's something wrong my my
XiphQT component (Ogg) so I couldn't get that part in Safari, but the WebM works fine through the QT component.

	This reminds me, now that we're supporting more formats, does it make sense to link
Extension:OggHandler/Client_download, should we providing that link even if TMH loads (so they can
download alternate codecs), and shouldn't we be linking components like <http://code.google.com/p/webm/downloads/detail?name=WebM%20Component%20Installer.pkg>?

	No rush. Just thought I'd mention that before I forgot

On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:11 PM, j <at> thing.net wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> just wanted to let you know that labs has a mostly working setup of TMH
> again. We also pulled in updates form the kaltura branch of the
> javascript code to get improved fullscreen support and better subtitles.
> 
> An example of a video with subtitles is at:
> http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Mandara_Online_-_Upper_Egypt%27s_Local_News_Website.webm
> 
> labs also has a videoscaler vm now that is setup with the puppet classes
> we can use in production once the servers are ready.
> (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16654/)
> 
> so would be good to have another look at labs now and see if there are
> things missing to clean up and have another look at our changes in
> relation to security.
> 
> I also updated the script to import Youtube videos (including subtitles)
> into mediawiki. Above link was imported using it.
> The script is currently at https://github.com/bit/youtube2mediawiki
> 
> Jan
> 

Michael Dale | 25 Jul 2012 21:33
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Fwd: TMH Update

+wikivideo-l :)

Wanted to share Jan's recent update on video on wikipedia efforts.

--michael

On 07/25/2012 12:11 PM, j <at> thing.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> just wanted to let you know that labs has a mostly working setup of TMH
> again. We also pulled in updates form the kaltura branch of the
> javascript code to get improved fullscreen support and better subtitles.
>
> An example of a video with subtitles is at:
> http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Mandara_Online_-_Upper_Egypt%27s_Local_News_Website.webm
>
> labs also has a videoscaler vm now that is setup with the puppet classes
> we can use in production once the servers are ready.
> (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16654/)
>
> so would be good to have another look at labs now and see if there are
> things missing to clean up and have another look at our changes in
> relation to security.
>
> I also updated the script to import Youtube videos (including subtitles)
> into mediawiki. Above link was imported using it.
> The script is currently at https://github.com/bit/youtube2mediawiki
>
> Jan
>

Chris McMahon | 18 Jul 2012 22:09
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more TMH and beta labs


A quick update:  as I understand it, we are creating a deployable mechanism for TMH to create the transcoded versions of incoming media files.

I don't have an estimate on when that will be done, though.  

-Chris 
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<br><div>A quick update: &nbsp;as I understand it, we are creating a deployable mechanism for TMH to create the transcoded versions of incoming media files.</div>
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<div>I don't have an estimate on when that will be done, though. &nbsp;</div>
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<div>-Chris&nbsp;</div>
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Chris McMahon | 6 Jun 2012 19:44
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post-Berlin TMH/Labs update



Faidon was able to create packages for ffmpeg2theora and ffmpeg, they are in place in Labs per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37043

At the moment TMH is not processing files in its queue, for example http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:SSA50091.ogv

Antoine is on vacation for the next couple of days, but progress should be picking up late this week and next week. 

-Chris 
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<div>Faidon was able to create packages for ffmpeg2theora and ffmpeg, they are in place in Labs per <a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37043">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37043</a>
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<div>At the moment TMH is not processing files in its queue, for example <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:SSA50091.ogv">http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:SSA50091.ogv</a>
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<div>Antoine is on vacation for the next couple of days, but progress should be picking up late this week and next week.&nbsp;</div>
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<div>-Chris&nbsp;</div>
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Chris McMahon | 25 May 2012 18:36
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tracking labs work



Antoine has made a number of Bugzilla tickets to track the ongoing work in labs for TMH.  This might be of interest:  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37079&hide_resolved=1
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<div>Antoine has made a number of Bugzilla tickets to track the ongoing work in labs for TMH. &nbsp;This might be of interest: &nbsp;<a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37079&amp;hide_resolved=1">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37079&amp;hide_resolved=1</a>
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Chris McMahon | 22 May 2012 20:05
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TMH progress, errors.


Now we're getting somewhere.  

It looks like late yesterday TMH started processing it's queue again.  However, recent uploads such as http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:SSA50074.ogv are showing errors of the form:



'/usr/bin/ffmpeg2theora' '/mnt/upload6/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/SSA50074.ogv' -V '160' -F '15' -a '-1' -H '44100' -c '2' --no-upscaling --two-pass --keyint '128' --buf-delay '256' --width '214' --height '160' --aspect '214:160' -o '/tmp/transcode_160p.ogv396b805-1.ogv'

/usr/local/apache/common-local/php-trunk/bin/ulimit4.sh: line 4: /usr/bin/ffmpeg2theora: No such file or directory

<div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Now we're getting somewhere. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It looks like late yesterday TMH started processing it's queue again. &nbsp;However, recent uploads such as&nbsp;<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:SSA50074.ogv">http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:SSA50074.ogv</a> are showing errors of the form:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
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<div>'/usr/bin/ffmpeg2theora' '/mnt/upload6/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/SSA50074.ogv' -V '160' -F '15' -a '-1' -H '44100' -c '2' --no-upscaling --two-pass --keyint '128' --buf-delay '256' --width '214' --height '160' --aspect '214:160' -o '/tmp/transcode_160p.ogv396b805-1.ogv'</div>
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<div>/usr/local/apache/common-local/php-trunk/bin/ulimit4.sh: line 4: /usr/bin/ffmpeg2theora: No such file or directory</div>
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Gmane