Jon Davis | 1 Nov 06:29 2009

Wikinews Reports - October 2009

Wikinews Reports - Highlights of actions, events, and excitement on enWikinews for October 2009. I (SGN) managed to put together a fair amount of news, but I'm always looking for contributions from others.  If you want to throw something in for next month (It can be anything Wikinews related), please stop by [[Wikinews:Reports]] ( http://enwn.net/Db3E ) and leave a note, or update the respective subpage. 

* October 9th <at> 2300UTC - The new [[Main Page]] layout went live.  The major changes include: introduction of a 5th lead, lead #1 becoming larger and more prominent, a clean 3 column layout.  http://enwn.net/h Discussion: http://enwn.net/eD5E
* October 14th - {{tl|Popular articles}} fritzed out and hasn't returned.  It's place on the main page has been replaced with alternate content.  http://enwn.net/7695
* October 20th - [[User:Millosh]] brought his [[w:VOA]] bot ([[User:Millbot-VoA]]) over from the Serbian Wikinews. After some testing and discussion, has gone live importing articles.  Discussion: http://enwn.net/F1BC
* October 20th - Vector skin became the default skin for Wikinews - Discussion: http://enwn.net/06aE Site notice: http://enwn.net/D2E8
* October 30th - The enhanced (edit) toolbar went live.  We got a little press too! http://enwn.net/8381
* October 30th - "Around enWikinews" got renamed and found a new (more permanent) home at [[Wikinews:Reports]] http://enwn.net/Db3E
* [[User:Brian McNeil]] is working to give a direly needed overhaul to the Newsroom.  Demo [[User:Brian McNeil/Newsroom]] http://enwn.net/76aa
* [[User:Amgine]] is writing the "Google News Site Map" extension in order to facilitate Wikinews getting back onto Google news.
* The mailing list was mostly quiet with the exception of a thread about what do with Wikinewsie.org http://enwn.net/03fe
* By popular complaint, enwn.net now supports a "preview" mode by appending a dash to the end of the URL.  Example: http://enwn.net/h-
* Enwn.net has been renamed to WMF4.me .  The new more generic name is supposed to cater to the entire WMF audience, not just us. Don't worry though, enwn.net will continue to work.  Homepage: http://wmf4.me/ Identica: http://identi.ca/wmf4me Twitter: http://twitter.com/wmf4me
* Bawolff's #wiktLookUp is working, and live on at least 6 WMF wikis and an unknown number of blogs. More information on the blog plugin: http://trunc.me/c943
* New Administrators: 1, New Editors: 3

Also something very, very, very important. '''On November 8th, Wikinews turns 5 years old!!'''  To celebrate, there will be cake! But only for those that help contribute to [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews turns 5]] ( http://enwn.net/a1a2 ).  It is a work in progress, and there is only 8 days remaining!  Let's make this one heck of an article!  (The abuse of the exclamation mark will continue until the article is done).

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Brian McNeil | 1 Nov 18:05 2009

Upcoming interviews - assistance needed

I'm looking at doing a couple of in-depth feature length interviews in
the next week or two. It seems I've landed the first, and the second may
come in the next week or so.

The subjects are Richard M. Stallman ('almost' confirmed) and Lawrence
Lessig (email has to go through secretary/assistant and I'm trying to
circumvent that).

RMS' response to my approach was basic preconditions. He gets quite
upset when people mix up GNU, Linux, the Free Software Movement, and
Open Source.

Please comment on this and suggest research avenues.

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Brian McNeil | 1 Nov 23:08 2009

Re: Upcoming interviews - assistance needed

On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 17:05 +0000, Brian McNeil wrote:
> I'm looking at doing a couple of in-depth feature length interviews in
> the next week or two. It seems I've landed the first, and the second may
> come in the next week or so.
> 
> The subjects are Richard M. Stallman ('almost' confirmed) and Lawrence
> Lessig (email has to go through secretary/assistant and I'm trying to
> circumvent that).
> 
> RMS' response to my approach was basic preconditions. He gets quite
> upset when people mix up GNU, Linux, the Free Software Movement, and
> Open Source.
> 
> Please comment on this and suggest research avenues.

I've done the initial research into RMS, and this could end up a
sprawling and messy interview. GET INVOLVED! Even is that is just
commenting that this is interesting, and you want the work to go ahead.
I could do with the encouragement on what is a complex interviewee, who
could be 'difficult' to work with. If you've not seen RMS' response to
my approach and reaction to his "terms of interview", email me off-list
and I will forward.

Anyway, RMS isn't known to our non-geeky readers, and those who are may
have some prejudices, writing an article with all his preferred
terminology is not going to be enlightening or informative.

So, interview would be done over a series of emails - frame who he is,
where he fits in, why he pushes Free so hard, and then move on.

For context, I've some background on RFCs (*the* Internet standards).
Question what he thinks of Jon Postel's contribution, &c.

RFCs started '69; first April 7, 1969. 69-98 Postel rfc editor; his obit
is RFC 2468.

[There's a reference to Van Nuys High School in relation to Postel - I
link that to PKD, can anyone see a way to use that?]
* Vint Cert wrote the RFC obit.

For RMS:

The Wikipedia article on [[GPL]] currently has a NPOV-related tag.

GPLv1 - 1989, general-use to replace Emacs, debugger, compiler licenses.
circa '06 - over 50% of known free' software packages GPL.
*GPL gave framework for projects like Linux with minimal risk to
contributors having work 'misappropriated'.

GPLv3 released June 29 '07. Aiming to close loopholes/abuse of
commercial parties on prior GPL.

-Ballmer called the GPL a "cancer" in 2001.

RMS - history

-At MIT AI lab '71. Graduated Harvard magna cum laude '74. Objected to
DARPA constraints/'interference' in academic research. Took stance
against password-protected access to systems, wrote password cracker,
sent all other AI lab users their 'cracked' passwords, said make blank -
back to anon access.

'79 called "timebomb"/usage restrictions in Scribe "crime against
humanity". Later nuanced to 'block user freedom being the crime; not the
fact you paid for the software'.

- views the 'moral' aspect of software freedom as vitally important.

'85 GNU manifesto. Led to FSF, 'copyleft'.

'90 began Hurd.

'91 Linus starts Linux.

'02 Technlology journo Andrew Leonard in a Salon article,
'uncompromising stubbornness common among top programmers'. - Re: "Code
free or die" bio.

- Seriously opposed to Software Patents.
- Started GNUpedia around time of Nupedia, shifted support to WP.
- considered non-materialistic; describes self as living like student.
- doesn't browse web (has this changed?)

That's it for now. I've some ideas on opening questions from this. The
rest of you get with the program. ;-)

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Philippe Beaudette | 3 Nov 03:09 2009
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Wikimedia Strategic Planning Office Hours

Strategic Planning office hours are tomorrow, Tuesday, November 3,
from 20:00-21:00 UTC.

We meet in #wikimedia-strategy on the freenode network.  You can
access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling
in a username and the channel name (#wikimedia-strategy). You may be
prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine. Another
option is http://chat.wikizine.org.

For more information about IRC clients, go to the Wikipedia entry on
IRC or the Meta page on Wikimedia IRC.

Hope to see you there!
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Cary Bass | 3 Nov 18:41 2009
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Office hours this Friday, November 6

Hello all!

This Friday's office hours will once again feature Rand Montoya,
Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Community Giving.  If you don't know
Rand, you can read about him at
<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Rand_Montoya>.

Office hours on Thursday are from 2230 to 2330 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PDT).

If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat
using a web browser:  First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at
<http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi>.  Type a
nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and
#wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join.

Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/,
typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as
the channel.   You may be prompted to click through a security warning.
 It should be all right.

Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other
relevant email lists you happen to be on.
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Cary Bass | 3 Nov 19:47 2009
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Re: Office hours this Friday, November 6

There's one "Thursday" in my previous message.  It's going to definitely
be on Friday, sorry if it caused any confusion.  (Thanks James!)

Cary

Cary Bass wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> This Friday's office hours will once again feature Rand Montoya,
> Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Community Giving.  If you don't know
> Rand, you can read about him at
> <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Rand_Montoya>.
>
> Office hours on Thursday are from 2230 to 2330 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PDT).
>
> If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat
> using a web browser:  First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at
> <http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi>.  Type a
> nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and
> #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join.
>
> Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/,
> typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as
> the channel.   You may be prompted to click through a security warning.
>  It should be all right.
>
> Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other
> relevant email lists you happen to be on.
>   

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Brian McNeil | 3 Nov 21:32 2009

List moderation

I've various things going on at the moment keeping me busy. I'd like not
to have to worry too much about the list being moderated over the next
couple of weeks.

Various points I've noted when daily clearing the junk

*phishing from ebay/banks/dhl - set to auto-discard these email
addresses, will never be real subscribers
*ditto for clear PR, seminars, newsletters (nonspoofed) - most of these
say they're from noreply <at> whatever
*Cyrillic spam - the new fad is apparently harvesting millions of .ru
email addresses and spoofing them to send such.

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Milos Rancic | 4 Nov 00:07 2009
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RfC: Free advertisements on Wikinews

Today I've noticed creation of the account on sr.wn which means "Jobs
Serbia". It is obviously that it is an account from some portal which
is used for job advertisement. Instantly I've got an idea: to offer to
that portal to make one page per day for linking the job offerings. It
is useful and it is relevant to many Wikinews readers, as well as it
may make Wikinews more relevant to its readers.

But, I've started to think further... To allow original advertisements
or to require linking to a relevant site? For some time I was thinking
that it is better not to allow original content related to
advertisement, but, after all, I think that it is about wiki and wiki
should allow that. At last, advertisement is the part of almost all
daily newspapers and why not to put it on Wikinews, too?

Further, advertisement may be about a lot of fields, not just about
jobs. It may be about housing, cars, whatever...

So, the question is where to stop? At the beginning and not do that at
all or to allow every [legal] advertisement? Or something between?

At one side, it is not so relevant at the English language area: there
is Craigslist for that. In many other language areas such portals
don't exist and they don't have a lot of chances for success because
there are not enough of users who would be willing to use one
specialized site for that kind of advertisement.

At the other side, it is relevant as a concept for en.wn and other
Wikinews editions. If it becomes successful as a model, it may bring
new quality and many more users.

You may guess that I am very interested for that idea :) However, I
think that it is very possible that I am inside of a small minority.
Tell me what do you think about that and, more important, which
problems may we have? (BTW, yes, it is about spreading free
information and I don't think that it is against WMF's goals.)
Nathan | 4 Nov 00:10 2009
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Re: RfC: Free advertisements on Wikinews

Can you elaborate on what you mean? News articles related to
advertisements, or pages that are solely advertising? Is there money
involved, or just free advertising space for anyone at the rate of one
page per day? I have the feeling that anything advertising-related is
going to find a deep wellspring of objection with the wider Wikimedia
community, but perhaps if you can expand on how it relates to adding
useful content...?

Nathan
Milos Rancic | 4 Nov 00:35 2009
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Re: RfC: Free advertisements on Wikinews

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Nathan <nawrich <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you elaborate on what you mean? News articles related to
> advertisements, or pages that are solely advertising? Is there money
> involved, or just free advertising space for anyone at the rate of one
> page per day? I have the feeling that anything advertising-related is
> going to find a deep wellspring of objection with the wider Wikimedia
> community, but perhaps if you can expand on how it relates to adding
> useful content...?

It would be for free (I mentioned "free" inside of the topic), as the
most simple advertisements are usually for free inside of the
newspapers.

To be honest, I don't have a precise idea. I've started to think about
advertisements which are useful to the most of Wikinews readers, like
job offerings, buying or selling [used] cars, hotel/hostel prices and
so on are. I am not talking about advertisement for money which
intention is to promote some product or so. (I hope I've defined that
clear.)

The first idea was about listing job offerings (one page per day) from
one site initially, then from other such sites. However, continuum of
thoughts brought me to the broader definition of advertisement
(buying/selling, listing various prices and so on).

However, if the idea develops, it is possible to have one page per
advertisement: "I am selling a Peugeot 207 one year old [[image:photo
of my peugeot 207 on commons.jpg]] for XX EUR. My phone is xxx.xxx.".
(BTW, privacy reasons are the same as they are on other wikis and on
other advertisement places: abuse is always possible.)

Besides the primary reason -- making Wikinews more useful for readers
-- it may bring a lot of free media to Commons. Possibly, some other
benefits, too.

I understand that there are a lot of possible problems and I would
like to hear them. But, again, I would like a kind of constructive
discussion about possible problems, not an ideological discussion.
(Again, this is not about payed advertisement.)

Gmane