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Out of curiosity, as it wasn't really clear from the email, are you
were writing them to try and get a comment for a wikinews article, or
as a wikimedian just trying to send a "please stop infringing on
copyrights - its rather mean" type note?

-bawolff

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Brian McNeil
<brian.mcneil <at> wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> Yes and no.
>
>
>
> The telegraph pulled their article in the face of the allegation, had people
> go over it, and dismissed the claim of plagiarism.
>
>
>
> The NUJ got in touch to say they were looking at it. No further news there.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
> wikinewssvt <at> optonline.net
> Sent: 15 October 2008 02:27
> To: Wikinews mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Allegations of copying from Wikipedia
>
>
>
> Brian McNeil,
>
> Is it safe to assume that you have not heard back from The Telegraph or the
> NUJ?
>
> SVTCobra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian McNeil
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:35 am
> Subject: [Wikinews-l] Allegations of copying from Wikipedia
> To: telegraph <at> blj.co.uk
> Cc: 'Wikinews mailing list'
>
>> To Whom It May Concern:
>>
>>
>>
>> My name is Brian McNeil, I am a bureaucrat and accredited
>> reporter on
>> Wikipedia's sister project, Wikinews (http://en.wikinews.org
>> ). I am investigating allegations that
>> have been
>> raised on Wikipedia that material has been copied from Wikipedia
>> in your
>> publication.
>>
>>
>>
>> The allegations center around the obituary for author James
>> Crumley, the
>> online version of this is at
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/3062745/James-
>> Crumley.html. The
>> current version of the Wikipedia article is located at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Crumley. This has undergone
>> some revision
>> since Crumley's death, but some word-for-word identical sections
>> remain.
>>
>>
>> While I wait on those who have made the allegations providing further
>> information I would greatly appreciate knowing who was
>> responsible for the
>> Telegraph obituary, and what the paper's stance on such issues is.
>>
>>
>>
>> While the term plagiarism has been bandied about in the
>> discussion on
>> Wikipedia, it is more technically accurate - if true - to
>> describe this as
>> an infringement of the license under which Wikipedia content is
>> provided.The license is the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL
>> - linked to from the
>> foot of every Wikipedia page). The terms of this license are
>> relativelyliberal in what reuse is permitted, but there is a
>> "viral" clause to ensure
>> that those who profit from the material share their works. The
>> upshot of
>> this would be that and work substantially derived from a GFDL
>> article must
>> also be made available under such a license.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to your response on this matter, as I hope you
>> appreciatethis is relatively urgent to maintain the timeliness
>> of the news.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian McNeil
>>
>> Wikinews Bureaucrat & Accredited Reporter
>>
>> Email: Brian.McNeil <at> wikinewsie.org
>>
>>
>
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I was up-front about being a journalist and interested in a potential story,
but you're not the first person to take my email that way.

Brian.

-----Original Message-----
From: wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of bawolff
Sent: 16 October 2008 03:00
To: Wikinews mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Allegations of copying from Wikipedia

Out of curiosity, as it wasn't really clear from the email, are you
were writing them to try and get a comment for a wikinews article, or
as a wikimedian just trying to send a "please stop infringing on
copyrights - its rather mean" type note?

-bawolff

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Brian McNeil
<brian.mcneil <at> wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> Yes and no.
>
>
>
> The telegraph pulled their article in the face of the allegation, had
people
> go over it, and dismissed the claim of plagiarism.
>
>
>
> The NUJ got in touch to say they were looking at it. No further news
there.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
> wikinewssvt <at> optonline.net
> Sent: 15 October 2008 02:27
> To: Wikinews mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Allegations of copying from Wikipedia
>
>
>
> Brian McNeil,
>
> Is it safe to assume that you have not heard back from The Telegraph or
the
> NUJ?
>
> SVTCobra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian McNeil
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:35 am
> Subject: [Wikinews-l] Allegations of copying from Wikipedia
> To: telegraph <at> blj.co.uk
> Cc: 'Wikinews mailing list'
>
>> To Whom It May Concern:
>>
>>
>>
>> My name is Brian McNeil, I am a bureaucrat and accredited
>> reporter on
>> Wikipedia's sister project, Wikinews (http://en.wikinews.org
>> ). I am investigating allegations that
>> have been
>> raised on Wikipedia that material has been copied from Wikipedia
>> in your
>> publication.
>>
>>
>>
>> The allegations center around the obituary for author James
>> Crumley, the
>> online version of this is at
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/3062745/James-
>> Crumley.html. The
>> current version of the Wikipedia article is located at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Crumley. This has undergone
>> some revision
>> since Crumley's death, but some word-for-word identical sections
>> remain.
>>
>>
>> While I wait on those who have made the allegations providing further
>> information I would greatly appreciate knowing who was
>> responsible for the
>> Telegraph obituary, and what the paper's stance on such issues is.
>>
>>
>>
>> While the term plagiarism has been bandied about in the
>> discussion on
>> Wikipedia, it is more technically accurate - if true - to
>> describe this as
>> an infringement of the license under which Wikipedia content is
>> provided.The license is the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL
>> - linked to from the
>> foot of every Wikipedia page). The terms of this license are
>> relativelyliberal in what reuse is permitted, but there is a
>> "viral" clause to ensure
>> that those who profit from the material share their works. The
>> upshot of
>> this would be that and work substantially derived from a GFDL
>> article must
>> also be made available under such a license.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to your response on this matter, as I hope you
>> appreciatethis is relatively urgent to maintain the timeliness
>> of the news.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian McNeil
>>
>> Wikinews Bureaucrat & Accredited Reporter
>>
>> Email: Brian.McNeil <at> wikinewsie.org
>>
>>
>
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>

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FYI

http://www.newschallenge.org

Digital Innovators: Two Weeks Left to Grab Up to $5 Million

October 15, 2008 - 1:09pm

Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due Nov. 1

MIAMI – Innovators from around the globe have two more weeks to submit
an application to the 2009 Knight News Challenge digital innovation
contest. Applicants have a chance to win up to $5 million. The
deadline is Nov. 1.

The worldwide competition seeks innovative ideas that use digital
experiments to transform community news and information exchange.
Ideas should push the edge, whether that involves bringing Web 2.0
tools to local neighborhoods, improving online news or creating
publishing platforms to inspire conversations in specific geographic
communities.

 There are only four rules. Winning entries must:

Use or create digital, open-source technology;
Use news and information to serve the public interest;
Benefit at least one specific geographic community;
Be innovative.

This is the third year of the News Challenge, a $25 million initiative
of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. For the first time, the
contest offers more than 50 coaches standing by online in the "News
Challenge Garage" at www.garage.newschallenge.org to help innovators
apply.

Last year's winners received prizes ranging from $15,000 to $876,000.
They included individuals, philanthropic organizations and for-profit
businesses, such as the Bakersfield Californian newspaper. Ten winners
were from the United States, and six were from Canada, England,
Lithuania, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Russia.

To apply, or find detailed information about past winners and answers
to frequently asked questions, visit www.newschallenge.org.

The John S. and James L. Knight Foundation invests in journalism
excellence worldwide and in the vitality of  U.S. communities where
the Knight brothers owned newspapers. Since 1950, the foundation has
granted more than $400 million to advance quality journalism and
freedom of expression. Knight Foundation focuses on projects with the
potential to create transformational change. For more, visit
www.knightfoundation.org.

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They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
http://modernthings.org/

Note: If anyone is interested,  our previous application is somewhere
in the depths of lost pages in the wikinews: namespace.

-bawolff

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Brianna Laugher
<brianna.laugher <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> FYI
>
> http://www.newschallenge.org
>
> Digital Innovators: Two Weeks Left to Grab Up to $5 Million
>
> October 15, 2008 - 1:09pm
>
> Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due Nov. 1
>
> Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due Nov. 1
>
> MIAMI – Innovators from around the globe have two more weeks to submit
> an application to the 2009 Knight News Challenge digital innovation
> contest. Applicants have a chance to win up to $5 million. The
> deadline is Nov. 1.
>
> The worldwide competition seeks innovative ideas that use digital
> experiments to transform community news and information exchange.
> Ideas should push the edge, whether that involves bringing Web 2.0
> tools to local neighborhoods, improving online news or creating
> publishing platforms to inspire conversations in specific geographic
> communities.
>
>  There are only four rules. Winning entries must:
>
> Use or create digital, open-source technology;
> Use news and information to serve the public interest;
> Benefit at least one specific geographic community;
> Be innovative.
>
> This is the third year of the News Challenge, a $25 million initiative
> of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. For the first time, the
> contest offers more than 50 coaches standing by online in the "News
> Challenge Garage" at www.garage.newschallenge.org to help innovators
> apply.
>
> Last year's winners received prizes ranging from $15,000 to $876,000.
> They included individuals, philanthropic organizations and for-profit
> businesses, such as the Bakersfield Californian newspaper. Ten winners
> were from the United States, and six were from Canada, England,
> Lithuania, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Russia.
>
> To apply, or find detailed information about past winners and answers
> to frequently asked questions, visit www.newschallenge.org.
>
> The John S. and James L. Knight Foundation invests in journalism
> excellence worldwide and in the vitality of  U.S. communities where
> the Knight brothers owned newspapers. Since 1950, the foundation has
> granted more than $400 million to advance quality journalism and
> freedom of expression. Knight Foundation focuses on projects with the
> potential to create transformational change. For more, visit
> www.knightfoundation.org.
>
> --
>
> =======================================
> YOLYNNE MEDINA
> Networking Specialist for IOSN ASEAN+3
> http://www.iosn.net | http://yolynne.wordpress.com
> ym: yolynne.rm googletalk: yolynne skype: ynmedina
> IRC nick: ulinskie server: irc.freenode.net
> Channels: #iosn #ubuntu-ph #ubuntu-women
> "Laughter nourishes our Soul"
> =======================================
>
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> ubuntu-women <at> lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women
>
>
>
>
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> http://modernthings.org/
>
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Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85
million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.

Due to the problems with having the weekly quiz updated, I thought it
might get updated more often if the quiz had simpler syntax (lower bar
of entry to make a new quiz). Anyways, I made a template that allows
people to use that lovely template syntax we all know and love and are
used to, and hides away the features of <quiz> we don't use.
Basically, you can make a quiz like this:

{{quiz
|Q1=First question
|Q1A=first choice
|Q1B=second choice
...and so on up to E
|Q1ans=A [letter of correct answer]
|Q1rel=See [[some article]] [the text printed beside question after its marked]

...and so on for Q2, Q3, all the way to a maximun of Q60...
}}

I think people are more used to this syntax due to almost everything
else mediawiki uses it, the paramters give hints to what they do (thus
are clearer), and it reduces features we don't use that could confuse
people. Hope this is useful to someone, and any comments are
appreciated.

-bawolff

I was reading the blogs and came across
http://brianna.modernthings.org/article/152/new-mediawiki-search-features-on-wikipedia

Apparently wikipedia now links to sister projects from searches, and
we're the most common to be linked to. Cool!
-bawolff

If anyone is interested in applying this year, please feel free to
contact me. I could probably save you quite a bit of trouble, since
we'd applied a few years back and got pretty far. I have both the
short and long form applications.

-ilya

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:22 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Note: If anyone is interested,  our previous application is somewhere
> in the depths of lost pages in the wikinews: namespace.
>
> -bawolff
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Brianna Laugher
> <brianna.laugher <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> http://www.newschallenge.org
>>
>> Digital Innovators: Two Weeks Left to Grab Up to $5 Million
>>
>> October 15, 2008 - 1:09pm
>>
>> Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due Nov. 1
>>
>> Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due Nov. 1
>>
>> MIAMI – Innovators from around the globe have two more weeks to submit
>> an application to the 2009 Knight News Challenge digital innovation
>> contest. Applicants have a chance to win up to $5 million. The
>> deadline is Nov. 1.
>>
>> The worldwide competition seeks innovative ideas that use digital
>> experiments to transform community news and information exchange.
>> Ideas should push the edge, whether that involves bringing Web 2.0
>> tools to local neighborhoods, improving online news or creating
>> publishing platforms to inspire conversations in specific geographic
>> communities.
>>
>>  There are only four rules. Winning entries must:
>>
>> Use or create digital, open-source technology;
>> Use news and information to serve the public interest;
>> Benefit at least one specific geographic community;
>> Be innovative.
>>
>> This is the third year of the News Challenge, a $25 million initiative
>> of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. For the first time, the
>> contest offers more than 50 coaches standing by online in the "News
>> Challenge Garage" at www.garage.newschallenge.org to help innovators
>> apply.
>>
>> Last year's winners received prizes ranging from $15,000 to $876,000.
>> They included individuals, philanthropic organizations and for-profit
>> businesses, such as the Bakersfield Californian newspaper. Ten winners
>> were from the United States, and six were from Canada, England,
>> Lithuania, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Russia.
>>
>> To apply, or find detailed information about past winners and answers
>> to frequently asked questions, visit www.newschallenge.org.
>>
>> The John S. and James L. Knight Foundation invests in journalism
>> excellence worldwide and in the vitality of  U.S. communities where
>> the Knight brothers owned newspapers. Since 1950, the foundation has
>> granted more than $400 million to advance quality journalism and
>> freedom of expression. Knight Foundation focuses on projects with the
>> potential to create transformational change. For more, visit
>> www.knightfoundation.org.
>>
>> --
>>
>> =======================================
>> YOLYNNE MEDINA
>> Networking Specialist for IOSN ASEAN+3
>> http://www.iosn.net | http://yolynne.wordpress.com
>> ym: yolynne.rm googletalk: yolynne skype: ynmedina
>> IRC nick: ulinskie server: irc.freenode.net
>> Channels: #iosn #ubuntu-ph #ubuntu-women
>> "Laughter nourishes our Soul"
>> =======================================
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-women mailing list
>> ubuntu-women <at> lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://modernthings.org/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
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>
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>
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I would certainly be interested in seeing the previous application. I recall
mention of it but don't know the details.

Brian McNeil

-----Original Message-----
From: wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ilya Haykinson
Sent: 17 October 2008 09:02
To: bawolff+wn <at> gmail.com; Wikinews mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Fwd: 2009 Knight News Challenge digital
innovationcontest

If anyone is interested in applying this year, please feel free to
contact me. I could probably save you quite a bit of trouble, since
we'd applied a few years back and got pretty far. I have both the
short and long form applications.

-ilya

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:22 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Note: If anyone is interested,  our previous application is somewhere
> in the depths of lost pages in the wikinews: namespace.
>
> -bawolff
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Brianna Laugher
> <brianna.laugher <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> http://www.newschallenge.org
>>
>> Digital Innovators: Two Weeks Left to Grab Up to $5 Million
>>
>> October 15, 2008 - 1:09pm
>>
>> Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due
Nov. 1
>>
>> Knight News Challenge contest open to anyone anywhere. Applications due
Nov. 1
>>
>> MIAMI - Innovators from around the globe have two more weeks to submit
>> an application to the 2009 Knight News Challenge digital innovation
>> contest. Applicants have a chance to win up to $5 million. The
>> deadline is Nov. 1.
>>
>> The worldwide competition seeks innovative ideas that use digital
>> experiments to transform community news and information exchange.
>> Ideas should push the edge, whether that involves bringing Web 2.0
>> tools to local neighborhoods, improving online news or creating
>> publishing platforms to inspire conversations in specific geographic
>> communities.
>>
>>  There are only four rules. Winning entries must:
>>
>> Use or create digital, open-source technology;
>> Use news and information to serve the public interest;
>> Benefit at least one specific geographic community;
>> Be innovative.
>>
>> This is the third year of the News Challenge, a $25 million initiative
>> of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation. For the first time, the
>> contest offers more than 50 coaches standing by online in the "News
>> Challenge Garage" at www.garage.newschallenge.org to help innovators
>> apply.
>>
>> Last year's winners received prizes ranging from $15,000 to $876,000.
>> They included individuals, philanthropic organizations and for-profit
>> businesses, such as the Bakersfield Californian newspaper. Ten winners
>> were from the United States, and six were from Canada, England,
>> Lithuania, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Russia.
>>
>> To apply, or find detailed information about past winners and answers
>> to frequently asked questions, visit www.newschallenge.org.
>>
>> The John S. and James L. Knight Foundation invests in journalism
>> excellence worldwide and in the vitality of  U.S. communities where
>> the Knight brothers owned newspapers. Since 1950, the foundation has
>> granted more than $400 million to advance quality journalism and
>> freedom of expression. Knight Foundation focuses on projects with the
>> potential to create transformational change. For more, visit
>> www.knightfoundation.org.
>>
>> --
>>
>> =======================================
>> YOLYNNE MEDINA
>> Networking Specialist for IOSN ASEAN+3
>> http://www.iosn.net | http://yolynne.wordpress.com
>> ym: yolynne.rm googletalk: yolynne skype: ynmedina
>> IRC nick: ulinskie server: irc.freenode.net
>> Channels: #iosn #ubuntu-ph #ubuntu-women
>> "Laughter nourishes our Soul"
>> =======================================
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-women mailing list
>> ubuntu-women <at> lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-women
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
>> http://modernthings.org/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikinews-l mailing list
>> Wikinews-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Allegations of copying from Wikipedia

Re: Allegations of copying from Wikipedia

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