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SonicR | 7 Oct 2005 14:55

realizing switch to CC-BY

After the switch to  Creative Commons BY 2.5 license, there was some 
confusion at de.wikinews how to explain the new retrictions to those who 
want to mirror or spread Wikinews articles. As far as I have understood 
they have to give attribution to "Wikinews", provide a link to the 
license and show that the original content was released unter CC-BY 2.5. 
Please correct me if this is not correct.

Some suggested to create a site on meta to write more precise 
intructions for those who want to spread Wikinews content. There we 
could write the texts of sites like MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and 
Wikinews:Copyright or Copyright FAQ and translate it into all Wikinews 
languages. With respect to license issues all nessecery informations 
needs to be correct and the same in all versions, because all content is 
released under the same license. The sites which will be written at meta 
could serve as frame. Local communities can add more information if they 
want to. If nobody is interested in a site like this, I don't start it. 
I've seen that the Polish community provides a link to the polish 
version of the CC-license. Most of the other versions provide a link to 
the US-Version of the CC-license. I don't know how big the differences 
are, but I think using the US-Version might be correct.

Stefan
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Amgine | 8 Oct 2005 00:45

Re: realizing switch to CC-BY


SonicR wrote:

> After the switch to Creative Commons BY 2.5 license, there was
> some confusion at de.wikinews how to explain the new retrictions to
> those who want to mirror or spread Wikinews articles. As far as I
> have understood they have to give attribution to "Wikinews",
> provide a link to the license and show that the original content
> was released unter CC-BY 2.5. Please correct me if this is not
> correct.
>
> Some suggested to create a site on meta to write more precise
> intructions for those who want to spread Wikinews content. There we
> could write the texts of sites like MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and
> Wikinews:Copyright or Copyright FAQ and translate it into all
> Wikinews languages. With respect to license issues all nessecery
> informations needs to be correct and the same in all versions,
> because all content is released under the same license. The sites
> which will be written at meta could serve as frame. Local
> communities can add more information if they want to. If nobody is
> interested in a site like this, I don't start it. I've seen that
> the Polish community provides a link to the polish version of the
> CC-license. Most of the other versions provide a link to the
> US-Version of the CC-license. I don't know how big the differences
> are, but I think using the US-Version might be correct.
>
> Stefan

Using CC-by 2.5 does require attribution to Wikinews, or the original
authors. It requires a link to the license or the full text of the
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Any File | 8 Oct 2005 17:23
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Re: Re: realizing switch to CC-BY


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From: Amgine <amgine <at> saewyc.net>
Subject: [Wikinews-l] Re: realizing switch to CC-BY

> SonicR wrote:
> 
> > After the switch to Creative Commons BY 2.5 license, there was
[...]
> > are, but I think using the US-Version might be correct.
> >
> > Stefan
> 
> 
> Using CC-by 2.5 does require attribution to Wikinews, or the original
> authors. It requires a link to the license or the full text of the
> license.  I'm not entirely sure it must say it is licensed under CC-by
> 2.5, but it probably does.
> 
[...]

To mee to is not clear who should be cited as a author. Nowhere on wikinews it is stated tha tis is enought to
cite Wikinews as author.

I belive that a full infomration should be given in every page or a link to an explanation page should be give
in every page.

MediaWiki:Copyright should be change to include al the information needed or it shoul be changed to
include a link to the explanation.
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Amgine | 8 Oct 2005 16:57

Re: Re: realizing switch to CC-BY

Any File wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Amgine <amgine <at> saewyc.net>
>Subject: [Wikinews-l] Re: realizing switch to CC-BY
>
>  
>
>>SonicR wrote:
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>>    
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>>>After the switch to Creative Commons BY 2.5 license, there was
>>>      
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>[...]
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>>>are, but I think using the US-Version might be correct.
>>>
>>>Stefan
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>>Using CC-by 2.5 does require attribution to Wikinews, or the original
>>authors. It requires a link to the license or the full text of the
>>license.  I'm not entirely sure it must say it is licensed under CC-by
>>2.5, but it probably does.
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Jean-Baptiste Soufron | 8 Oct 2005 15:51
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Re: Re: realizing switch to CC-BY

As far as I can say, if we want to avoid any risk of misunderstanding, 
it would be much better to use CC material to explain CCBY2.5

But even so, these licenses were not written for being used on such 
content as Wikinews. There will be problems of interpretation and 
application that will require some material on our own to guide content 
reusers.

Still, that's not the case yet and we should stick to CC explanation 
material as much as we can.

Jean-Baptiste Soufron

Amgine wrote:
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> SonicR wrote:
> 
>> After the switch to Creative Commons BY 2.5 license, there was
>> some confusion at de.wikinews how to explain the new retrictions to
>> those who want to mirror or spread Wikinews articles. As far as I
>> have understood they have to give attribution to "Wikinews",
>> provide a link to the license and show that the original content
>> was released unter CC-BY 2.5. Please correct me if this is not
>> correct.
>>
>> Some suggested to create a site on meta to write more precise
>> intructions for those who want to spread Wikinews content. There we
>> could write the texts of sites like MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and
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Any File | 9 Oct 2005 12:17
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Re: Re: realizing switch to CC-BY


"Jean-Baptiste Soufron" wrote:

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> As far as I can say, if we want to avoid any risk of 
> misunderstanding, it would be much better to use CC material to 
> explain CCBY2.5

The problem I notice (sorry I have not the licence at hand to cite) is that the licence says
that you should state the author in the way was given by the author.

As well as a link to the licence we need to provide the information of how to give the right credit.

> 
> But even so, these licenses were not written for being used on such 
> content as Wikinews. There will be problems of interpretation and 
> application that will require some material on our own to guide 
> content reusers.

If this is really the case (is it?) and problems occur then we will better
consider if changing the licence to a different type of licence is better.

> Still, that's not the case yet and we should stick to CC 
> explanation material as much as we can.

AnyFile

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Jean-Baptiste Soufron | 15 Oct 2005 18:24
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RSS

is there a way to get the new content when it appears ... ???

rss or whatever ?
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Ilya N. | 15 Oct 2005 18:40
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Re: RSS

There is an RSS feed that is linked to from the front page:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/WikinewsLatestNews

this is only stories with {{publish}} in them...

On 10/15/05, Jean-Baptiste Soufron <jbsoufron <at> gmail.com> wrote:
is there a way to get the new content when it appears ... ???

rss or whatever ?
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David Speakman | 15 Oct 2005 19:05
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RE: RSS

No there is not a live RSS feed on Wikinews due to software copyright
issues. 
For English Wikinews, an editor manually enters Wikinews stories into a
third-party RSS engine; functional, but not automated.

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>Jean-Baptiste Soufron

>is there a way to get the new content when it appears ... ???
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>rss or whatever ?
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Dejan Cabrilo | 15 Oct 2005 20:03
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Re: RSS

On 10/15/05, David Speakman <david <at> speakman.com> wrote:
> No there is not a live RSS feed on Wikinews due to software copyright
> issues.
> For English Wikinews, an editor manually enters Wikinews stories into a
> third-party RSS engine; functional, but not automated.

It is automated now.  A script fetches stories from Latest News. It's
all still external.
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