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Mike Maughan | 1 Mar 2007 01:06

Wikis supporting mainstream websites

Hi all,

I'm a member of a medium-sized network of business consultants here in the
UK and our website is up for redesign (see here for your own opinion!
http://www.bcn.org.uk/ ).  The tone of the group in respect of marketing &
promotions is best regarded as "staid", and as I'm a relatively new member
most are regarding my troublemaking efforts to push a good & up-to-date web
solution as "nuisance".

I feel we can do a much better job by using a wiki, set up with suitable
templates and using an overall "look & feel" we shall probably shop out.
What I need are ideas, suggestions, dos & don'ts, plus ideally any
references to good or bad site designs of this sort both with & without
wikis.

Enough variety to get your teeth into? :)

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Emufarmers Sangly | 1 Mar 2007 02:14
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Re: Wikis supporting mainstream websites

Do you actually need a wiki?  MediaWiki is great software, but your site
looks to only have about a dozen pages; unless you have a significant number
of pages/the actual need for employees to be able to edit the site,
MediaWiki is probably more trouble than it's worth.  I would hire a good web
designer, and have him create some nice, clean HTML.  However, if your
company has need for an internal corporate wiki, then MediaWiki would be a
perfectly fine choice. (I'm speaking to you as though you were in charge of
your company: Since you're not, it'd probably be easier to get a "standard"
website created.)

If you want a case study of why a company using a wiki can be a bad idea, I
would offer up the DreamHost  support wiki <http://wiki.dreamhost.com/> (
wiki.dreamhost.com).  DreamHost decided a while ago that it would be a good
idea to convert their "knowledge base" section to use MediaWiki, since it
would mean that their hosting customers would be able to add to it, and
hopefully make it a stronger resource.  To that end, it has succeeded
somewhat, but it has been an abysmal technical failure, primarily due
DreamHost's unwillingness to devote ten minutes of manpower to upgrade the
wiki software from 1.4.0(!).  I think there was a staff member who initially
served as the caretaker of the wiki, but he left a while back.  The
important lesson to draw is this: Don't use a wiki for your company unless
you're willing to maintain it.  An unmaintained wiki tends to look bad, and
can eventually become a security risk.  MediaWiki isn't really that hard to
maintain, but someone does have to be willing to spend a few minutes every
now and then (ideally, every day) keeping it in proper shape.

On 2/28/07, Mike Maughan <mike.maughan@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
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Sterling D. Allan | 1 Mar 2007 03:42

how to add top banner

I would like to add a banner/ad at the top of each page of my wiki site (http://PESWiki.com)

Could someone tell me how to do this?

I've been able to add such things in the left and bottom of the site, but can't see in the code how to add
something at the top.

I'm guessing it has something to do with the "siteNotice" function, but I can't find anything relevant
about that at MediaWiki.com

Sterling
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Jan | 1 Mar 2007 03:52
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Re: how to add top banner

hi!

1. Upload the banner to your wiki.
2. Open in your wiki [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]].
3. Insert: [[Image:banner.gif]]

Regards,
Jan

Sterling D. Allan schrieb:
> I would like to add a banner/ad at the top of each page of my wiki site (http://PESWiki.com)
> 
> Could someone tell me how to do this?
> 
> I've been able to add such things in the left and bottom of the site, but can't see in the code how to add
something at the top.
> 
> I'm guessing it has something to do with the "siteNotice" function, but I can't find anything relevant
about that at MediaWiki.com
> 
> Sterling
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Rolf Lampa | 1 Mar 2007 05:38

Re: Updating the table "redirect" on demand?

Rolf Lampa wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I notice that 1.9.2 added a new table "redirect", which is populated 
> during upgrade / reinstall.
>
> Now, how do I update the redirect table on demand? (to do so would, I 
> presume, be recommended after importing new data into the "big three" 
> tables page,revision,text).
>
> Or, how important is it to keep the redirect table up to date?
>   

OK, I'll try again:

Does anyone know what the table "redirect" is good for, that is, is it 
in use? If so, how do I update it's content after importing articles?

Regards,

// Rolf Lampa
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Sylvain Machefert | 1 Mar 2007 07:02
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Re: How to customize the page title display

The public function getPageTitle already exists in OutputPage.php, search
it.
It contains only
return $this->mPagetitle;

Insert
wfRunHooks( 'GetPageTitle', array(&$this->mPagetitle ));
before "return"

2007/3/1, Paul Coghlan <pcoghlan@...>:
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> Thanks Sylvain.
>
> I THINK I followed what was needed.
>
> I inserted the following line into LocalSettings.php:
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> Include("extensions/getPageTitle.php");
>
> I also created the new getPageTitle.php from the code below within the
> extensions folder.
>
> I finally inserted the following lines into includes/OutputPage.php:
>
> public function getPageTitle() {
> wfRunHooks( 'GetPageTitle', array(&$this->mPagetitle ));
> return $this->mPagetitle;
> }
>
> When I attempt to load any MW page I get an immediate white screen. If I
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Dhruba Bandopadhyay | 1 Mar 2007 10:24
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Wiki2Word... (I know, totally hilarious!)

Many of you have heard about Word2MediaWikiPlus macro that easily converts Word documents + images into
wiki & auto-uploads all the images. This is all great. However most of the time we keep the Word documents
because of the A4-page-layout designs... used for printing customer/client manuals, etc. So am
wondering, how does people keep Word & Wiki files in-synchronized? If changes are made to the wiki version
by 3rd-party people, how does the owner of the original Word document sync up with the wiki changes?
Especially when there are dozens or hundreds of these documents?

If it doesn't exist, I might write a Word2Wiki2WordSync....
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Frederik Dohr | 1 Mar 2007 10:44
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Re: Wiki2Word... (I know, totally hilarious!)

> If it doesn't exist, I might write a Word2Wiki2WordSync....

I for one would very much welcome a Wiki-to-Word (or even better: to
OpenDocument) converter.

In fact, that has already been attempted:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/wiki2xml/w2x.php
However, that doesn't really work perfectly AFAIK.

I've been told that converting MediaWiki markup to any other format is
difficult at best; that's because there's no proper parser, which
usually results in possible ambiguities and whatnot... (this description
may be somewhat inaccurate, but it should do the trick here)

Still, being able to post-process wiki-created documents in a word
processor (e.g. for publishing manuals) would be great!

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KimToner | 1 Mar 2007 11:47
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Wikimedia DB dump - encoding in categorylinks/imagelinks


Hello,

I make some select from wikimedia categorylinks table on a local DB.
"SELECT cl_from FROM categorylinks WHERE cl_to = $catname;"
For categories with accents in the name, i cannot get any results.
I've tried to encode the $catName in latin1, utf-8 and even tryed to URL
encode both versions. 
No luck... 
The MySQL instance is configured with default values for the encoding. 

Am i missing something here? 
Would someone have a hint?

thanks,

Kim
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Dhruba Bandopadhyay | 1 Mar 2007 12:14
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BUG: IE7 multiple new tabs

Just wondering if anyone is using latest MediaWiki 1.9.3 with IE7? My IE7 keeps on creating new multiple
tabs for every link I click in my MediaWiki 1.9.3 site. Am not sure whether it's IE7 or 1.9.3. But I never had
any problems with IE6 + 1.9.2.

 
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