NSK | 1 Nov 04:01 2004
Subject: Anchor (and img)

Anchor (and img)

hi,

How can I enable the <a> and <img> HTML tags in mediawiki 1.3.7?

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Dori | 1 Nov 04:02 2004
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Re: Re: Red links

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:23:14 +0100, tic@...
<tic@...> wrote:
> Am Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:02:41 +0100 hat Thomas R. Koll <tomk32@...>
> geschrieben:
> 
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:59:03PM +0100, tic@... wrote:
> >> The problem is rather that color blind people cannot see them links if
> >> they are red colored unless they are underlined.
> >> Maybe wikipedia chooses a more accessible color for them?
> >
> > I am very sure that those have their browser to use their own color-sheme
> > and overwrite the site's CSS.
> 
> Is there any colorblind around that can confirm that it's not being
> troublesome having to adapt their browser to every weird (well that
> wikipedia actually not is :-) ) homepage there is?

They don't have to adapt their browser, they just have to set their
monobook.css appropriately (a.new { color:#XXXXXX; }).

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Ashar Voultoiz | 1 Nov 05:54 2004

Re: Red links

Thomas R. Koll wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:59:03PM +0100, tic@... wrote:
> 
>>The problem is rather that color blind people cannot see them links if  
>>they are red colored unless they are underlined.
>>Maybe wikipedia chooses a more accessible color for them?
> 
> 
> I am very sure that those have their browser to use their own color-sheme
> and overwrite the site's CSS.
> 
> ciao, tom

That's how colorblind people do it. Same for people that have visual 
deficience (big bold white fonts on a dark background).

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Ashar Voultoiz | 1 Nov 05:58 2004

Re: Red links

NSK wrote:
> On Sunday 31 October 2004 20:59, tic@... wrote:
> 
>>The problem is rather that color blind people cannot see them links if
> 
> 
> I think it's evident that the colour of the links must change. I think Fred 
> Bauder's decision to make the links green in http://www.wikinfo.org is great. 
> Why not implement the same in Wikipedia and MediaWiki 1.3.8, too?

NSK,

MediaWiki is build mainly for Wikipedia usage, it just happen that other 
website admins use it for other purposes (such as Fred Bauder or yourself).

Most developpers of MediaWiki are also in charge of the maintenance of 
the 350+ wikis run for the WikiMedia foundation, so we basicly want the 
software to be configured by default with the need of the WikiMedia 
community.

If you would like to change a default settings you will have to have the 
whole community support your idea, then the community will ask the 
developpers to change the default settings.

Actually the community seems to be fine with the RED color being used 
for broken link. Just customize your site stylesheet if you don't agree 
with that.

cheers,

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Ashar Voultoiz | 1 Nov 06:00 2004

Re: Database Backup system?

Ira Abramov wrote:
<snip>
>>There isn't such a tool actually although you can use Special:Export to 
>>extract one article.
> 
> last I check this was a "write only backup medium" since I found no way
> to suck that single page back in.

Hello,

The Special:Import page isn't finished yet :o)

>>I personally use mysqldump other all my databases every 15 days or so 
>>and zip / archive the dumps on an other disk.
> 
> I do that daily with my site, keep 6 back "issues" on the server (i.e.
> one week) and rsync the last one to my home machine. Better safe than
> sorry (and sorry I've been. believe me)

Looks like a safe way. You might even want to burn a cd from time to 
time to be even safer :o)

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Thomas R. Koll | 1 Nov 08:47 2004

Re: Anchor (and img)

On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 05:01:50AM +0200, NSK wrote:
> hi,
> 
> How can I enable the <a> and <img> HTML tags in mediawiki 1.3.7?

The first is nonsene cuz we have links in wikipedia syntax.
For the second activate $wgAllowExternalImages and just put in the URL.
BUT I must strongly advise you to leave it at false. Otherwise you'd
have to check the weblinks in your wiki (if you want to code something
fresh, hack a table for the weblinks and a special page, a blacklist would
be fine too).

On de: we had a problem with that a year ago and quickly decided to
switch to dissallow images.

If you really want to allow them, see includes/Parser.php function removeHTML()

PS: Please always grep the source first.
ciao, tom
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Richard Karpinski | 1 Nov 16:13 2004

Re: Re: Where should I seek help?

OK, here is the exact message:

[pear_error: message="Template function 
'tpl_0_7_0_d73aca9d73b2179aa0acca726fd5ead0' not found (template source 
: /home/groups/h/hu/humane/htdocs/di/templates/xhtml_slim.pt" code=0 
mode=return level=notice prefix="" info=""]

I was using Firefox on Mac OS X and had an old copy of my main page 
showing a red link to a page I had recently created. When I followed 
that link, I got to "Editing" of the new page. So I went back and 
reloaded the main page. That worked and the link was no longer red. 
Then I followed that link again and got the message above.

The problem is intermittent and often goes away when the page with the 
error message is reloaded or backed out of and reinvoked. But sometimes 
that fails so often that I give up and go away for an hour or more. It 
happens for my pages and for "Special Pages". It seems to happen less 
in the middle of the night, but that's not certain.

Dick

On Oct 30, 2004, at 7:15 PM, Ashar Voultoiz wrote:

> This is the place for MediaWiki support (together with #mediawiki on 
> irc.freenode.net). Can you quote the exact error you are receiving and 
> when does it happen ?
Brion Vibber | 1 Nov 16:18 2004
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Re: Re: Where should I seek help?

On Nov 1, 2004, at 7:13 AM, Richard Karpinski wrote:
> [pear_error: message="Template function 
> 'tpl_0_7_0_d73aca9d73b2179aa0acca726fd5ead0' not found (template 
> source : /home/groups/h/hu/humane/htdocs/di/templates/xhtml_slim.pt" 
> code=0 mode=return level=notice prefix="" info=""]

This means the page template didn't compile correctly, or that the 
compiled template file couldn't be loaded up correctly.

Unfortunately I can't be more specific than that since I don't know 
what causes it, and have never seen it on any machine I've run (though 
similar symptoms do get reported). Do you run this server yourself, or 
are you on a shared server with limited control? What operating system 
does it run? What version of PHP? Do you know if it's using a PHP 
accelerator module (eg Zend Optimizer, Turck MMCache, APC, etc)? Are 
you running with PHP's safe mode on? Is the server frequently used, or 
lightly? Is your wiki heavily used, or lightly? Can you check for the 
existence of a file named eg 
tpl_0_7_0_d73aca9d73b2179aa0acca726fd5ead0.php, most likely in /tmp? 
What does it look like inside? Is it empty, or broken, or a bunch of 
PHP and HTML bits? Are files in the /tmp dir routinely emptied? Is 
there a per-user quota on the filesystem? Are there any other error 
messages that show up at the time?

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Richard Karpinski | 1 Nov 16:35 2004

Re: Re: Where should I seek help?

This is hosted on the SourceForge servers so they are heavily shared 
and I have quite limited control. The wiki is very lightly used. No 
other messages or errors occur with this one. I'll see if I can find 
out the other stuff you ask about.

Thanks.

Dick

On Nov 1, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:

>  Do you run this server yourself, or are you on a shared server with 
> limited control?
Jamie Bliss | 1 Nov 22:28 2004
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Re: Re: Red links

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 05:58:52 +0100, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar@...> wrote:
> [clip]
> Actually the community seems to be fine with the RED color being used
> for broken link. Just customize your site stylesheet if you don't agree
> with that.

Plus, red broken links just seems to make sense (at least to me).

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