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Rotem Liss | 2 Mar 2007 13:24

Re: RTL-lang messages in a multilingual wiki


Brianna Laugher wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Please compare
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&uselang=he&type=signup
> to
> http://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&uselang=he&type=signup
> 
> On Commons, the messages appear RTL text direction which is correct,
> but on the left, which I imagine is as unnatural as right-aligning for
> English.
> 
> Evidently there is some sitewide setting for he.wp that tells it to
> display messages right aligned. Commons default language is English
> which is left aligned. I guess that using uselang=he is not enough for
> it to display messages right aligned?
> 
> Should we (Commons) go and insert <span align="right"> around every /he message?
> Would this solve it?
> (Would this be a *good way* to solve it?)
> 
> thanks,
> Brianna
> user:pfctdayelise
> 

First, not all the messages can use HTML, and even Wikitext, so this may fail.
Second, several messages don't need this. Third, this won't fix the interface as
the whole page is LTR-aligned. Fourth, the problem is not "align" but
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Gerard Meijssen | 5 Mar 2007 13:16
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Re: RTL-lang messages in a multilingual wiki

Rotem Liss schreef:
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> Brianna Laugher wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please compare
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&uselang=he&type=signup
>> to
>> http://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&uselang=he&type=signup
>>
>> On Commons, the messages appear RTL text direction which is correct,
>> but on the left, which I imagine is as unnatural as right-aligning for
>> English.
>>
>> Evidently there is some sitewide setting for he.wp that tells it to
>> display messages right aligned. Commons default language is English
>> which is left aligned. I guess that using uselang=he is not enough for
>> it to display messages right aligned?
>>
>> Should we (Commons) go and insert <span align="right"> around every /he message?
>> Would this solve it?
>> (Would this be a *good way* to solve it?)
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brianna
>> user:pfctdayelise
>>
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Rotem Liss | 6 Mar 2007 13:37

Re: RTL-lang messages in a multilingual wiki


Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> It is solved in Multilingual MediaWiki.
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
> 

It is indeed (though partially - http://mw.visc.us/Main_Page?uselang=he works
but http://mw.visc.us/ara:Main_Page?uselang=en doesn't), but fixing this bug
doesn't require using Multilingual MediaWiki, as it's also useful in
single-language wikis for people who use RTL wikis but prefer to use an LTR
language, and for people who use LTR wikis but prefer to use an RTL language.
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Gerard Meijssen | 6 Mar 2007 16:27
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Re: RTL-lang messages in a multilingual wiki

Hoi,
Consider in a multilingual mediawiki you can specify how many languages 
you allow for. It can only be one. The issue is that the behaviour of 
the screen is taken from the user preference, as well as from the 
content. A RTL user prefers to have his navigation, tools and search 
stuff on the right. The content needs to oriented based on the language 
involved.
Thanks,
     Gerard

Rotem Liss schreef:
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> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>   
>> Hoi,
>> It is solved in Multilingual MediaWiki.
>> Thanks,
>>     GerardM
>>
>>     
>
> It is indeed (though partially - http://mw.visc.us/Main_Page?uselang=he works
> but http://mw.visc.us/ara:Main_Page?uselang=en doesn't), but fixing this bug
> doesn't require using Multilingual MediaWiki, as it's also useful in
> single-language wikis for people who use RTL wikis but prefer to use an LTR
> language, and for people who use LTR wikis but prefer to use an RTL language.
>
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Александр Сигачёв | 27 Mar 2007 20:36
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Please, look at patch

Please, look at my patch.
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9392
It is Russian translation patch for several Mediawiki extensions.

Is it good to create one patch for several extensions?
What "component" (from list in bugzilla) should I select?

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Kunlabore,
Alexander Sigachov
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Rob Church | 27 Mar 2007 21:17
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Re: Please, look at patch

On 27/03/07, Александр Сигачёв <alexander.sigachov <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it good to create one patch for several extensions?
> What "component" (from list in bugzilla) should I select?

No problem with the multiple-extensions-per-patch, it's more efficient
than tons of little ones. In those cases, I'd say just put it under
General in extensions.

Rob Church
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