Ole Palnatoke Andersen | 31 Aug 12:52 2014
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Danish seminar/workshop/edit-a-thon

On October 4th, there will be a seminar at KVINFO (the Danish Centre for Gender, Equality and Ethnicity): http://kvinfo.dk/om-kvinfo/skriv-ligestilling-ind-i-wikipedia (title, translated: "write equality into Wikipedia").

Regards,
Ole

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Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight | 31 Aug 12:32 2014
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New WP: WikiProject Women writers

I'm attending an awesome wikipedia workshop which has helped me shape some priorities, one of which was to be bold and start this project for women writers. If you have any interests in WikiProject start-ups, please jump in. There's a mountain of work to be done, and your various talents and insights and lessons-learned from previous start-ups would be appreciated. From one woman writer to another, thanks in advance.

-Rosie
(Rosiestep)
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Carol Moore dc | 31 Aug 04:25 2014
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What is status of Foundation Gender Gap projects and relation to wikimedia Gender Gap project?

People in the know can answer when it's covenient next week, but since it's on my mind, posting now.

As we write on Gender Gap Task Force main page: "In 2014 Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] said the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] was "doubling down" its efforts to reach that goal and would be doing more outreach and software changes. Reference: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28701772 Wikipedia 'completely failed' to fix gender imbalance, [[BBC]] interview  August 8, 2014.


So info on status of interns, paid staffers working on this, volunteer efforts, etc. and their relation to the Wikimedia Gender Gap Task force would be helpful. I know Wikimedia Gender Gap project which is not very active, though sub-projects like
WikiWomen's Collaborative are doing some things.
 
Reminder of temporary address of en.Wikipedia Gender Gap Task force's big list of resources which is relevant to the above and does in fact contain links where we can infer answers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carolmooredc/My_Sandbox_1 is

One reason I ask is I just put up this message at Wikimedia Gender Gap project but then started wondering about the issues above.

Should this project be listed on Outreach.wikimedia?? at https://meta.wikimedia.org/Talk:Gender_gap#Should_this_project_be_listed_on_Outreach.wikimedia.3F.3F

https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page links to GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives & Museums) and Wikimedia Education Portal (re: different countries)  (as well as Best Practices and Success stories).  Considering women are half the human race, it seems sensible to include this project there. It probably would bring more willing volunteers to outreach in general as well. I don't see any discussion of this on this talk page and only a link to Outreach Village Pump as a "good place to discuss outreach to women."

So clarifications and updates would be great and I'm sure lots of us are interested.

Thanks!!

CM
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Carol Moore dc | 28 Aug 18:09 2014
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Huge list of Gender Gap resources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carolmooredc/My_Sandbox_1
It took me a month to put together, including by rereading 2/3 of threads here and grabbing links.

The big objection to working to end the gender gap has been that there's no proof it exists/its important/we can change it/etc.  I do expect there to be fierce objection to listing 80% of this material from the Gender Gap task force naysayers. But the entries are wikiproject relevant, if not always useable as reliable sources in articles.

Additions and constructive suggestions welcome.


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Krystle | 27 Aug 19:54 2014

Noiva do Cordeiro

And if so, should there be a Wikipedia entry about it? I started to draft one but am a little worried because there seems to be only one article about this mysterious town. Hoax, maybe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Noiva_do_Cordeiro
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Tim Davenport | 26 Aug 22:14 2014
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Why Women Have No Time For Wikipedia (WPO article)

There is a new blog post up on Wikipedia-criticism site Wikipediocracy that should be of interest to this list.

Andreas Kolbe with Nathalie Collida, "Why Women Have No Time For Wikipedia: Thoughts on the Online Encyclopedia's Gender Imbalance."


One interesting assertion made by the authors in their lengthy essay is that fewer than 1 in 50 WP contributors is a mother:

"It is sometimes argued that women simply have less time to contribute to Wikipedia, due to family commitments. This is a fallacy. Firstly, the United Nations University survey found that only 33.29% of respondents had a partner, and only 14.72% had children. The difference between readers and contributors was negligible here, and the survey report did not indicate any difference in these percentages for male and female respondents. It is patently obvious that girls and women in the age groups that are most strongly represented in Wikipedia’s demographics typically do not yet have families of their own. Their lack of participation is unrelated to their being bogged down by family responsibilities.

"Of course, these figures also tell us something else: if only 14.72% of contributors have children, and the percentage of female contributors lies somewhere between 8.5% and 12.64%, then it looks like only 1.25%–1.86% of Wikipedia contributors are mothers.

"That is less than 1 in 50."


Tim Davenport
"Carrite" on WP /// "Randy from Boise" on WPO


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Jodi Schneider | 23 Aug 00:23 2014
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editing target: biologist emerita Annette Coleman's page

Here's an article that needs improvement:

It was created at the Brown edit-a-thon -- and could do with some expansion.

-Jodi
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Carol Moore dc | 13 Aug 16:12 2014
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Easy thing that would help the en.Wiki Gender Gap Project

As I've mentioned, the biggest problem we're having now is male attack 
posts, female complaints about such attacks, generally 
disruptive/tendentious threads which really are driving off people who 
join the project, probably look at the page, and quickly leave.

I started this thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force#Hatting_vs._closing_vs._immediate_archiving_vs._indexing_on_subpages

"Hatting vs. closing vs. immediate archiving vs. indexing on subpages"

It initially was responded to by all males, two of them wikihounders, 
one who has some odd ball agenda, and a sensible one. (There also was a 
discussion at another thread about the way another guy came in and 
hatted complaint discussions about sexism that hadn't been finished, 
which muddied the waters.)

Sarah (SlimVirgin) suggested a 30 day archiving regime which we've had 
for a week or two. But I just got fed up and changed it to 15 days, but 
don't know how long that would last.

It really would help if editors could come to the thread and tell us 
what they think about leaving all those disruptive posts up there as 
opposed to having ''active and constructive members" close/hat/archive 
the most problematic ones as seems sensible on a case by case basis.

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Kathleen McCook | 12 Aug 13:39 2014
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Male, and geeky

BBC article, Wiki wars: Do Wikipedia's internal tiffs deter newcomers?


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Michael J. Lowrey | 9 Aug 21:56 2014
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What we are up against

https://storify.com/JessicaValenti/what-happens-when-a-woman-writer-asks-a-question-o

I don't have words for this, just prayer for the souls of the idiots involved.

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Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey

"When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food
and clothes."
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Sarah Stierch | 7 Aug 17:32 2014
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Men's rights v feminists on Wikipedia in Washington Post

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