Neotarf | 30 Mar 05:48 2015
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Metrics

It is perhaps a truism that if you want to concentrate on fixing something (i.e., gendergap) , first you need to measure it.

Has anyone looked at the Inspire grant proposals to see if any of them include metrics?

So far, we have the 2008 survey, conducted by UN University in Maastrict (UNU-MERIT), and posted in 2010.  The survey showed that "only 12.64% of contributors are female". https://web.archive.org/web/20130717211630/http://wikipediastudy.org/

The next survey was conducted in 2011.  It found that "only 8.5% of editors are women".  https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Editor_Survey_Report_-_April_2011.pdf&page=3

The results of the 2012 survey were never published. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Editor_Survey_2012#Results
So what surveys need to be done, how often, and by whom?  (It seems that this UN University in Maastrict group did a pretty good job.) The editathons are new, has anyone actually talked to any of the women who participated?  Shouldn't there be some focus groups at this point? 

This is really basic to the whole project. Can someone figure out what is needed and whether anyone has submitted a workable proposal?  Andreas?
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| 27 Mar 12:08 2015
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Do I sound gay?

If you get a chance to see this film/documentary I can recommend it,
interesting and funny. The film (funded via Kickstarter) had its
European premier this week at BFI Flare, you can find information on
the director's website and see the trailer on Vimeo.[1][2]

One point made by some of the gay men interviewed, was that the
"internalized homophobia" of not wanting to use a non-effeminate voice
came from the misogynistic attitudes imprinted during childhood on all
men, that a masculine voice was a good thing as it grants power and
authority.

These are difficult areas to write about or to find good sources for.
It is no surprise that the section about effeminacy and gay men on the
English Wikipedia is both short and out of date.[3]

Links
1. http://www.doisoundgay.com
2. https://vimeo.com/93323057
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effeminacy

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Fabrice Florin | 26 Mar 21:49 2015
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Women and gender diversity on Wikimedia: Can you help us pick quality articles?

Hi folks,

Can you help us pick quality articles about women and gender diversity on Wikipedia and sister projects? 

Here are the community suggestions we’ve received so far: 

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Women_and_gender_diversity_on_Wikimedia

Please add your +1’s on that page — and tell us why you recommend your favorite articles.

Our goal is to surface factual, well-written and insightful articles, as part of our month-long focus on women and gender diversity. 

Based on your feedback, we’ll publish the top picks tomorrow on the Wikimedia blog.

Many thanks to all the folks who contributed to this community-curated experiment!

Regards as ever,


Fabrice




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LB | 26 Mar 20:31 2015
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5 days left to Inspire Campaign: What to do about WikiWomen Project

I worried over this earlier in the month, then I got a brief vacation with my sisters. Now I'm back and I need to make up my mind whether or not I want to pursue the WikiProject Women proposal that I made back in January. (Since there are only five days left in the Inspire Campaign.)

Here's a link for those who aren't familiar, or who haven't thought about it in awhile:

The original proposal was for a women-only Wikipedia (English) project, but because of the hostility of some in opposing the idea (and the Kaffeeklatsch test area), I'm leaning now toward a women-only area at meta (right term? I mean at wikimedia.org).

Feedback? Suggestions? There was lots of support, but there was also, as most of you know, plenty of opposition.

Lightbreather
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Jason Radford | 26 Mar 13:04 2015

Inspire Campaign: Consciousness Raising Repository

Hi,

I've posted a project for the Inspire Campaign and am looking for your feedback and potential support.  The idea is to gather and maintain a publicly accessible repository of stories of marginalization for use by admins and researchers in understanding patterns of discrimination.  You can see the full summary on the proposal page.

I would definitely like feedback from folks on this list about whether the structure of the project is reasonable (i.e. a group of administrators recruiting and polishing stories and maintaining the page/site).  In addition, I believe this proposal can only succeed if there is a diverse group of administrators capable of reaching out and recruiting stories from diverse users.  In that vein, my second request is for suggestions on how to go about reaching out to Wikipedians/Wikimedians with other, traditionally marginalized identities.

Thanks!
Jason

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Pine W | 26 Mar 05:23 2015
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Some motivation (:

Quoted from the publicly logged #wikimedia-office IRC channel, and emailing with the consent of Emily:

[17:14:19] <harej> Finnegan: or in emily's case, "there are not enough articles on women scientists. this is an outrage to us."

[17:15:19] <Finnegan> i am now enjoying a mental image of her delivering a podium-pounding speech to rouse the feminists

[17:15:52] <marktraceur> I want you to get up, walk to your windows, throw them open, and yell "I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M GOING TO WRITE ARTICLES ABOUT WOMEN SCIENTISTS"

[17:15:54] <ragesoss> DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY

[17:16:46] <Finnegan> marktraceur: i think you honestly just summarized her operating philosophy. If only everyone could channel their anger like that..."

I thought (and apparently other people do as well!) that Emily's approach is quite motivational! (:

Pine

This is an Encyclopedia
One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies
The deep rock of our past, in which we must delve
The well of our future,
The clear water we must leave untainted for those who come after us,
The fertile earth, in which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,
And the broad fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not know.
—Catherine Munro


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Katherine Casey | 25 Mar 03:15 2015
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A path back for day-two editors (was: Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday)

Hmm, I see what you were saying now, Neotarf. We're throwing time, effort, and money at getting people in the door (or at least, an edit-a-thon's door), and some at keeping the long-term editors around, but there's sort of a "doughnut hole" between those two points where we expect people to just sort of find something in the eleventy-million (...that moment when you realize that a joke quantity like "eleventy-million" isn't that far off the mark of reality...) pages on a project that interests them enough to bring them back. With no help except maybe SuggestBot, if they manage to find that.

But what brings people back for edits five through one hundred, at a population level? Getting over the hurdle to showing up for a second day (whether on-wiki or at an event) is often going to call for...let's call it an attention bump. Something that drives people back to logging in even if they'd closed that browser tab. We could stand, as a community, to brainstorm ways to get people in for day two.

It's not enough to just not drive them off (though we struggle managing even that, in some areas/communities), it's that, especially in the case of women, I would expect to see an increase in return traffic when there's a path actively shouting "Hello! I am a path! A path that leads somewhere! I would like you to follow me!" Some social media send "Hey, we missed you, come log in again!" emails after X missed days, for example. That's a bit on the creepy side for my taste, but something a bit less stalky that could serve as a reminder of what's on Wikipedia to do, or how the community appreciates people's efforts, or what the person started but didn't finish while there...hm. Things like that could work.

Is anyone aware of any work that's been done in this "doughnut hole" area, covering the period after outreach when someone's attention can be captured or fail to be captured by a new hobby like Wiki[m|p]edia editing?


On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Neotarf <neotarf <at> gmail.com> wrote:
"I doubt I'd attend any event purporting to recruit women that nevertheless limited itself to "people who were born female"; that's very much a type of exclusion I'm uncomfortable with. In general, however, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from arranging a women-centric (or even women-only) edit-a-thon, or from reaching out to women in a certain field (via linkedin, maybe?) to urge them to get editing."

After what I've been through, I'm not likely to urge *anyone* to edit. My own opinion is that all Wikimedia spaces should be moving towards 50/50.   But my point is, all of these people express an interest, come in for a day, sometimes in conjunction with a friend who is attending a similar event in another city, make their first edit, and then ...what?  There's no signing up for a mailing list, no newsletter, no invitations to log into a safe space for continued collaborations, in short, nothing to show them that Wikipedia appreciates them or considers their contributions to be valuable. And nothing to show them the next step along the way. People are walking in the door.  And then they walk out. Where is the infrastructure for making that second edit?  And for staying connected with the people they meet?

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Katherine Casey <fluffernutter.wiki <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I doubt I'd attend any event purporting to recruit women that nevertheless limited itself to "people who were born female"; that's very much a type of exclusion I'm uncomfortable with. In general, however, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from arranging a women-centric (or even women-only) edit-a-thon, or from reaching out to women in a certain field (via linkedin, maybe?) to urge them to get editing. Those are both cool ideas, and I suspect you'd get a lot of support, both from the WMF and from the gendergap community in general, in setting such things up. NYC would be, I suspect, a particularly fertile ground for gendergap-specific meetups; there's enough of nearly every demographic around there to fill some seats for a moderately-sized edit-a-thon, and the WMNYC board appears willing to work with minority-focused groups..

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Neotarf <neotarf <at> gmail.com> wrote:
See also this article: "AfroCrowd: The Black Wikipedia For People of African Descent" http://kreyolicious.com/afrocrowd/17531/

One of the drawbacks of GLAM is that people are just making a few edits, and leaving, rather than becoming long-term editors. There may be chances for followup here that we are missing. Is the wiki-world ready for "WomanCrowd: The Women's Wikipedia for People Who Were Born Female"?  Or maybe more realistically, ways for women in a particular cluster of professions to network with other women in their field, not to mention professional men who are supportive enough of women to come to one of these events (and who also might just happen to control access to career advancement). 

I have to say, though, that I totally support the idea of a Haitian Creole-language Wikipedia.  This language barrier was a huge problem a few years ago, when there was an increased number of Haitians entering the U.S. after the earthquake in Haiti.  The problem is the same with other creoles--instruction is usually given in one of the prestige languages--in this case French--rather than the individual's native or local village language, which makes communication and learning extremely difficult. 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the idea is to be extra inclusionary by reaching out to all these groups explicitly, and in particular to representing different cultural identities in rather non-monolithic African American / African Diasporic communities.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Jeremy Baron <jeremy <at> tuxmachine.com> wrote:

On Mar 23, 2015 11:25 AM, "Neotarf" <neotarf <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never seen editithons that exclude people before.  I've been to a couple of black history events, and all were welcomed, although of course there was a very high proportion of African descent.

I think the point was actually to be extra inclusionary: to cover all of the above not just a subset when recruiting new editors. So potential recruits don't think but I'm not really {{label}} and exclude themselves.

I'm pretty sure others won't be excluded but these events will be *focused* on topics related to those groups and editors with some sort of a connection to Africa. To address biases similarly to women focused outreach but with a twist thrown in: adding a new language to Wikipedia too, they started already Garifuna Wikipedia on incubator.

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cab

-Jeremy


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Alex Wang | 25 Mar 03:14 2015
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Inspire Campaign: Help turn ideas into action!

Hello Wikimedians,


On March 4th, the Community Engagement team initiated the first “Inspire Campaign”, a drive to foster and support new ideas to improve gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. The organizers set a goal of having 100 proposals by the end of March; this was met in the first week, and the total now stands at 220 ideas, with a few more days more to go!  The campaign has brought in 492 participants to the process so far, nearly hitting its target of 500 participants.


While discussion about gender has been active, the environment has largely remained friendly and productive. The Inspire team would like to especially thank the Meta community and its admins for helping to keep the process positive and running smoothly. Discussion has been further aided by a friendly spaces guideline for participants, which most everyone involved has respectfully followed.[1]


However, the campaign is far from done.


The next step is developing and supporting viable ideas to become real initiatives. We need your help, whether in the form of an endorsement for a strong idea, or constructive suggestions on a proposal that needs more work.  Feedback from community members is key to helping an idea evolve, and incorporating past learning and knowledge is very important for the future success of these proposals.  


You can explore ideas by category[2] or through a ‘leaderboard’ of the most endorsed ideas[3].  And a list of ideas that have already expanded into grant proposals can be seen here[4]. We hope to see you over at the IdeaLab, and, remember, there are still a few days to help create actionable ideas before March 31st!


If funding is needed to implement your idea, be sure to expand your idea into a grant proposal before the campaign ends March 31st. Funding decisions will be made by April 30th.


Cheers,

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Neotarf | 23 Mar 22:45 2015
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The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

Articles about women are getting lost.  Lost that is, to Google searches.

For the last two days, Afghanistan has been exploding in demonstrations over Farkhunda, a Kabul woman who was beaten to death and torched by a mob. Even though every major news source has done a piece on her, I can't find an article for her yet in Wikipedia.  When it does get written, and finally starts showing up in the search engines, what will it say? "Farkhunda", the logical search term?  Or more likely, the more common format: "the murder/lynching/battering/victimization/humiliation of [insert woman's name here]".


For quite some time, the article for Ozgecan Aslan was hidden from Google searches as well, because due to the English Wikipedia's unique naming conventions, the article was called "
Murder of Özgecan Aslan".


Maybe it's time to reconsider naming articles about women for the horrible things that were done to them, and give them the simple dignity of their own names.  I'm not sure the victimization narrative is the right one anyhow.  The Farkhunda story seems to be about her death becoming a rallying point for the way women are treated in Afghanistan, much as Aslan was in Turkey.


What else?  Iraqi lawyer Samira Salih al-Nuaimi still comes up 6th in a Google search, *after* the entry for the Daily Mail, because of the idiosyncratic spelling of her name in the article title. But at least
you can find her (very, very short) article now.


And since I've already written this much, the article on fistula, a problem for a huge number of girls in parts of the Global South, is not very well explained.  Compare Female genital mutilation or even Women's rights in 2014. (thx, SV).   Also reference the short article on Fatimata Touré, whose group in Mali works against fistula.


Note: for Farkhunda, see Twitter photos https://twitter.com/hashtag/Farkhunda?src=hash and WaPo http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/23/afghan-woman-beaten-to-death-for-a-crime-she-didnt-commit-becomes-a-rallying-point-for-activists/

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| 23 Mar 13:07 2015
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Progress of Inspire Grants – Gender gap campaign

Would someone like to summarize how the campaign is doing now it is
(presumably) half way through?

From the IdeaLab page[1] there is a week left before the proposals
part of the campaign closes on the 1st April, with the expectation
that 100 ideas will be created. This deadline might be the wrong one
though, as the notice on the main PEG page[2] says the campaign is
open "February 1 - April 30".

I admit to being confused by the structure on meta. After following
the links for the Inspire campaign, I cannot find a list of gender gap
related proposals open for community feedback and support. Perhaps
someone could point me in the right direction, or create a listing
page if it does not exist?

Links
1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Inspire_Grants_%E2%80%93_Gender_gap_campaign#Measures_of_success
2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants:PEG&oldid=11234142

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Jane Darnell | 23 Mar 12:51 2015
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Closing the gendergap in biographies on Wikipedia

Hi everyone, I have been checking how we are doing on closing the gendergap on biographies of women artists for a while. Part of the problem is collecting the data, and Wikidata is a great help. Unfortunately there are still lots of women artists with Wikidata items without any statements at all, but since this is also true for male artists, looking at the stats is useful. What I did was to collect data for all female artists and all male artist and came up with percentages for painters versus various matched data bases in Mix-n-Match.

Thanks to our push on Art & Feminism, the score is better (12.5%) on Wikimedia projects than for the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (10.1%). The ODNB is currently the only database that is completely matched. The other databases are still being matched, but still, it's interesting to see how we currently stand with those. Here are the scores:

Wikidata painters - 12.5%: 45016 male, 6430 female
RKD - 11.4%: 21809 male, 2795 female
United List of Artist Names - 8.6%: 32993 male, 3091 female
BBC Your Paintings - 7.7%: 6535 male, 545 female
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - 10.1%: 49419 male, 5581 female


These stats were gathered this morning using Autolist:
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