Ryan Kaldari | 23 Jul 22:03 2014
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Sexualized environment on Commons

If anyone ever needs a good example of the locker-room environment on Wikimedia Commons, I just came across this old deletion discussion:
The last two keep votes are especially interesting. One need look no farther than the current Main Page talk page for more of the same (search for "premature ejaculation").

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Sarah Stierch | 23 Jul 00:16 2014
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Fwd: [Adacamp Alumni] Applications open for AdaCamp Berlin and Bangalore

First AdaCamp in India! 

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Date: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:11 PM
Subject: [Adacamp Alumni] Applications open for AdaCamp Berlin and Bangalore
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Hi AdaCampers,

We just opened applications for AdaCamp Berlin and Bangalore!

http://adainitiative.org/2014/07/applications-open-for-adacamp-berlin-and-adacamp-bangalore/

A lot of AdaCamp Alumni have asked: Should I go to AdaCamp again? This
isn't an easy question, because we are pretty sure all future AdaCamps
are going to be sold out, and because we are trying hard to reach
people who need AdaCamp the most (usually those who don't have a
chance to attend many supportive conferences). At the same time, we
need people who have been to previous AdaCamps to attend to help show
new people the ropes, and we also need women who have a lot of
confidence and experience and expertise to attend to serve as role
models, give advice, and make relationships.

If you want to attend AdaCamp but are feeling guilty about taking up a
spot someone else might need more, here's what I recommend: Apply to
AdaCamp and in the "Anything else?" field of the application, say that
you are happy to give up your spot if someone else needs it more. :)

In other words, apply!

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Kathleen McCook | 22 Jul 20:06 2014
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Cussler comparison

My intention was to point out that a series of novels (Cussler's) that don't meet the criteria applied to __October__ have full pages. The two authors are in no way similar. In fact, they are as far apart as they could be. However, the male author has complete coverage of every jot and tittle.




On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Risker <risker.wp <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I believe what caused the more in-depth examination was the creation of a brand new, otherwise unlinked category for the book, which drew the attention of a very different group of editors than the ones who pay attention to works of fiction.  You've got the category-interested editors looking at the article, instead of the fiction-interested editors. 
 
It's just a notability tag, it's already been removed, and I'm sure folks will be able to find some more reviews about October (novel). 
 
I don't think it has anything at all to do with the fact that the author is a woman.  As best I can tell, the only person comparing this novel to Cussler books is you. 
 
Risker/Anne


On 22 July 2014 13:39, Kathleen McCook <klmccook <at> gmail.com> wrote:
The reason I asked to discuss here is to ascertain whether or not there seems to be a different set of notability standards by gender.

I encourage students to contribute to Wikipedia.
But when notability is an editor's decision with so many exceptions...how do you encourage?

Really, I am careful and if a book by a brilliant woman like Zoe Wicomb causes notability queries..how, on earth, can this gender gap be addressed?

Here is Ms. Wicomb's prize announcement at Yale.





On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth <at> gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case <dancase <at> frontiernet.net> wrote:
 
On what basis in Clive Cussler notable? 
That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think we should say that “all published works by authors who have their paperbacks displayed prominently in the racks near the front of bookstores at airports are notable “).

Well, I don't know. I had never heard of Cussler before today (don't spend a lot of time in airport bookshops), but I did look at a couple of his novels' Wikipedia articles, and they didn't indicate significance any better than the October article. (One of them had a single, ephemeral reference; the other had 7 that seemed pretty thin.)

I can see how Kathleen would be frustrated by what surely appears from her perspective to be a double standard.

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Kathleen McCook | 22 Jul 19:39 2014
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Novel by Woman-Notability

The reason I asked to discuss here is to ascertain whether or not there seems to be a different set of notability standards by gender.

I encourage students to contribute to Wikipedia.
But when notability is an editor's decision with so many exceptions...how do you encourage?

Really, I am careful and if a book by a brilliant woman like Zoe Wicomb causes notability queries..how, on earth, can this gender gap be addressed?

Here is Ms. Wicomb's prize announcement at Yale.





On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth <at> gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case <dancase <at> frontiernet.net> wrote:
 
On what basis in Clive Cussler notable? 
That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think we should say that “all published works by authors who have their paperbacks displayed prominently in the racks near the front of bookstores at airports are notable “).

Well, I don't know. I had never heard of Cussler before today (don't spend a lot of time in airport bookshops), but I did look at a couple of his novels' Wikipedia articles, and they didn't indicate significance any better than the October article. (One of them had a single, ephemeral reference; the other had 7 that seemed pretty thin.)

I can see how Kathleen would be frustrated by what surely appears from her perspective to be a double standard.

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Kathleen McCook | 22 Jul 15:34 2014
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Zoë Wicomb or Clive Cussler?

Thank you. But I do not believe these Guidelines are used fairly when it comes to author's gender. Again..why would every novel by Clive Cussler get its own page but there be a notability query about one by  Zoë Wicomb??

This seems to me pure gender bias.




On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Nathan <nawrich <at> gmail.com> wrote:



On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Kathleen McCook <klmccook <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I took off the scheduled for deletion notice or maybe it was lack of notability he put up. I couldn't bear. I am fearful he will put it back.

This is the issue--how can a male editor decide a woman's novel is not notable. on what basis? On what basis in Clive Cussler notable?  



Hi Kathleen, in answer to your question, the notability guideline is the basis by which both male and female editors should assess articles. You can find it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability 


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Kathleen McCook | 22 Jul 14:33 2014
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Novel by Woman-Deletion

All, I started a page about Zoe Wicomb's new novel, October. It is a beautiful novel and had great literary merit.

I received a message is it being considered for deletion. I wrote the editor and gave him reasons not to delete and added another review.

The author has won the inaugural Windham-Campbell Prize. She South African, from Namaqualand. (The editor also wants to delete Fiction from Namaqualand, but it is a region w/o boundaries like the Arctic).

Every Clive Cussler Dirk Pitt adventure novel has its own page.

I am at a loss.
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Pine W | 18 Jul 06:11 2014
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Blog post "Creating Safe Spaces"

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Pine W | 18 Jul 06:07 2014
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Gender diversity and women's biographies discussed in July WMF Research showcase

This subject was discussed during this month's Research and Data showcase.

From Leila's summary:
> *Using Open Data and Stories to Broaden Crowd Content
> *By Nathan Matias*:
> Nathan will share a series of research on gender diversity online and
> designs for collaborative content creation that foster learning and
> community. He will also demo a prototype for a system that could leverage
> open data to attract and support new Wikipedia contributors.
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Rosiestep Wiki | 17 Jul 05:24 2014
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Women's biographies at the main page's DYK (Did You Know?) section

I've noticed this for years -- fewer women's biographies vs. men's in an average week at the DYK section of the main page. Maybe I've noticed this because I'm a highly prolific contributor to DYK. But I've wondered how many reader eyeballs land on the main page and notice the same thing?

Some statistics here:

Annually, there's a preponderance of women's biographies in March (Women's History Month). And during the rest of the year, there's the occasional set (6-7 "hooks") or occasional day (2-3 sets) where the majority of the biographies are regarding women. But it's an uncommon occurrence over the course of a week. The reason seems simple:  fewer women's biographies are being nominated by editors, so fewer are promoted, and fewer appear at DYK. It almost goes without saying that fewer women's biographies are created/expanded compared to men's but it's actually important to address this, as IMO, it's the crux of the problem. I am not suggesting and would not support setting limits on the number of men's biographies which appear at DYK. Instead, I'd like to believe that issue/problem recognition is the first step before we brainstorm some objectives, develop workplans (i.e. monthly edit-a-thons anyone?), and measure outcomes. 

I'm considering creating a proposal and applying for a grant to work on this "percentage issue". Feedback?

-Rosie


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Netha Hussain | 11 Jul 21:02 2014
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[Research] The encyclopedia must fail! - Notes on queering Wikipedia

Dear all,

   Here is a research authored by Noopur Raval (User: Noopur28) on Ada, a journal of gender, media and technology  : http://adanewmedia.org/2014/07/issue5-raval/


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Merle Wittich | 11 Jul 00:53 2014
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Next Diversity Dialogue - July 15 - Talking about Wikimania London - time correction

Dear all,

In the last e-mail a few hours ago I made a mistake concerning the start of the diversity dialogue hangout: 

It is 5 pm +1 GMT - not as stated before 6pm +1 GMT. 
If you want to avoid confusion with the dfferent time zones I can send you a google calender invite as I offered in the first e-mail.

Please excuse my mistake.

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