Virgilio A. P. Machado | 1 Jun 02:58 2011
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Re: The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

Now that my attention has been drawn to that section, I wonder if 
that explains why the academic projects were not welcome and their 
contributions are being vandalized, almost systematically, at the 
Brazilian Wikipedia.

Sincerely,

Virgilio A. P. Machado

At 09:43 31-05-2011, you wrote:
>On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:42, Fred Bauder <fredbaud@...> wrote:
> > An interesting technique:
> >
> > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html
> >
> > Fred
>
>Thanks for the link. I actually felt a surge of pride when I read it:
>
>"A student writing an essay for their teacher may be tempted to
>plagiarize or leave facts unchecked. A new study shows that if you ask
>that same student to write something that will be posted on Wikipedia,
>he or she suddenly becomes determined to make the work as accurate as
>possible, and may actually do better research. ...
>
>"[Brenna Gray] says despite its faults, [Wikipedia] does promote solid
>values for its writers, including precise citations, accurate
>research, editing and revision."
>
>Sarah
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Milos Rancic | 1 Jun 04:17 2011
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Thumbs up for WM UK

I just want to say that I've found the next sentence on WM UK website:

Для української мови Вікіпедії ласка, відвідайте
http://uk.wikipedia.org; для Вікімедіа Україна відвідайте
http://ua.wikimedia.org

It would be good to have such messages more often. For example, Serbian
Wikipedia should have similar message with redirecting people to Sranan
Tongo language (Suriname Creole) [1] Wikipedia edition [2] (visible
portion of Serbian Wikipedia visitors are coming from Suriname because
of their ISO 3166-1/TLD code).

Maybe we should gather similar cases and ask relevant communities to
make such one-sentence guides at their Main Pages.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sranan_Tongo
[2] http://srn.wikipedia.org/

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M. Williamson | 1 Jun 04:48 2011
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Re: The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

Professor Machado:

This is an interesting allegation, I would be quite interested to see
some examples of this taking place.

-m.

2011/5/31 Virgilio A. P. Machado <vam@...>:
> Now that my attention has been drawn to that section, I wonder if
> that explains why the academic projects were not welcome and their
> contributions are being vandalized, almost systematically, at the
> Brazilian Wikipedia.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Virgilio A. P. Machado
>
>
> At 09:43 31-05-2011, you wrote:
>>On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:42, Fred Bauder <fredbaud@...> wrote:
>> > An interesting technique:
>> >
>> > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html
>> >
>> > Fred
>>
>>Thanks for the link. I actually felt a surge of pride when I read it:
>>
>>"A student writing an essay for their teacher may be tempted to
>>plagiarize or leave facts unchecked. A new study shows that if you ask
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Milos Rancic | 1 Jun 05:24 2011
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Re: The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

On 06/01/2011 02:58 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> Now that my attention has been drawn to that section, I wonder if 
> that explains why the academic projects were not welcome and their 
> contributions are being vandalized, almost systematically, at the 
> Brazilian Wikipedia.

If you refer to any Brazilian native language edition of Wikipedia, may
you specify?

If you refer to Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia, Language committee still
doesn't allow BCP 47 language tags. We are allowing just ISO 639-1
alpha-2 and ISO 639-3 alpha-3 language tags, which shouldn't be confused
with ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 codes for countries.

If that's true, that means that someone has opened new project without
following regular procedure. That's serious problem. May you, please,
point to the project, so we could know if it is about abusing technical
permissions or about some other, more serious issue?

If that's true, I would like to thank you to pointing to very serious
problem inside of Wikimedia. I would also like to thank you for pointing
how harmful is not following the rules in the sense of opening new projects.

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MZMcBride | 1 Jun 09:21 2011

Wikimedia at events

Hi.

Is there a breakdown of who the Wikimedia Foundation sends to particular
events or what events Wikimedia participates in? I know that Wikimedia sends
a lot of people to a lot of conferences (and unconferences and hackathons
and manias), so I assume there's some kind of record somewhere on Meta-Wiki.
Does anyone know of such a list? I'm particularly curious about who's being
sent to the upcoming Wikimania (which could be a question for the Wikimania
2011 organizers, I don't know).

A fine-grained list (listing particular people sent to particular events) or
a broad list (listing all events that Wikimedia sends any number of people
to) would be great.

MZMcBride

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Samuel Klein | 1 Jun 09:24 2011
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Re: Wikimedia at events

+1

I'd like to see this for more than just the Foundation - any event
where wikimedians have a presence - but this is a great place to
start.

If the long-contemplated Events Committee were to take form, it could
help coordinate sharing and updating such lists.

SJ

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:21 AM, MZMcBride <z <at> mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Is there a breakdown of who the Wikimedia Foundation sends to particular
> events or what events Wikimedia participates in? I know that Wikimedia sends
> a lot of people to a lot of conferences (and unconferences and hackathons
> and manias), so I assume there's some kind of record somewhere on Meta-Wiki.
> Does anyone know of such a list? I'm particularly curious about who's being
> sent to the upcoming Wikimania (which could be a question for the Wikimania
> 2011 organizers, I don't know).
>
> A fine-grained list (listing particular people sent to particular events) or
> a broad list (listing all events that Wikimedia sends any number of people
> to) would be great.
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
>
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Béria Lima | 1 Jun 09:42 2011
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Re: The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

>
> *If you refer to any Brazilian native language edition of Wikipedia, may
> you specify?
> *

Milos,

There not such thing as "brazilian Wikipédia". The wikipédia he is talking
abut is pt.wikipedia.org. Why he call it "Brazilian" is better ask him.
_____
*Béria Lima*
<http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.***

2011/6/1 Milos Rancic <millosh@...>

> On 06/01/2011 02:58 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> > Now that my attention has been drawn to that section, I wonder if
> > that explains why the academic projects were not welcome and their
> > contributions are being vandalized, almost systematically, at the
> > Brazilian Wikipedia.
>
> If you refer to any Brazilian native language edition of Wikipedia, may
> you specify?
>
> If you refer to Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia, Language committee still
> doesn't allow BCP 47 language tags. We are allowing just ISO 639-1
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Samuel Klein | 1 Jun 10:46 2011
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Re: The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud@...> wrote:
> An interesting technique:
>
> http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html

This is so true!

My highschool sweetheart is a science prof, and recently pointed me to
this essay that one of her students published to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perception_and_production_of_music&oldid=431277568

You can see the elements that come from a class essay ('The following
will cover', no internal links) and the elements that come from
Wikipedia style (aggressive footnoting, sectioning).

Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite
templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous
impact their work has on the rest of the world...

SJ

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Sarah | 1 Jun 11:42 2011
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Re: The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@...> wrote:
> Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite
> templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous
> impact their work has on the rest of the world...
>
Speaking of which, David Gerard has just posted this to wikiEN-l. :)

http://xkcd.com/906/

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Fae | 1 Jun 13:00 2011
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Re: Wikimedia at events

In the UK we coordinate using a wiki http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events but
it's not that great. I would love to see a WMF and Chapter-wide shared
process for using event calendars that one can subscribe to (depending on
what countries you want to see) in tools such as Google Calendar and that
were so easy to maintain that no country would want to go off on a tangent
to use their own system to coordinate what events they were involved with.

Cheers,
Fae
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