Muhammad Alsebaey | 1 Sep 2008 02:33
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Re: [Foundation-l] Arabic Wikipedia day(s) -- barnraising joys and results

For the record, the day was organized across all of ar.wp , so Arabic speakers from all around the world participated, there was however two large teams: the one in Bib. Alex. that Samuel mentioned and one in Cairo in the Arab Academy for Science, Technology and Marine transport.  As far as I know there was also some smaller focus groups elsewhere, and a LOT of people on IRC. And yes there was 685 distinct articles contributed, the goal was 1000 but people are pleased with the 685 result :) .

http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%85_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B9

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Samuel Klein wrote:
> The Library of Alexandria (and Moushira and Abdel Rahman in particular)
> helped organize and host an Arabic Wikipedia day yesterday... if I read
> correctly, people contributed roughly 685 new articles in a day, and
> 4200 this month (increasing the project size by almost 1% in a day! and
> 6% this month).  I looked at a selection from today, and nothing seemed
> scripted, /many/ contributors added new articles, including a number of
> anons.  And it's good to see that the obligations imposed by the heavier
> volume is being taken seriously:
>    http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%86
>    http://www.bibalex.org/english/media/NewsDetails.aspx?NewsID=2278
>
> I think Khaled Hosny and EGLUG in Cairo helped put on their own
> Wikipedia day(s?) earlier in August.  There was certainly discussion of
> Arabic-language editing drives at Wikimania in Alexandria, but it's
> pretty awesome to see it taking place -- barnraisings are a good
> spectator sport (and motivation to practice a new language :-).
> Congrats to everyone involved, browsing the results made my night.
>
> SJ
> (who heard about the event but forgot during the day, and was reminded
> by the sitenotice when browsing ar:wp for something quite different...)


That's wonderful news !

Regarding participation from the (by large) area of the world, I spent a
 while being bold on the french wikipedia in the past 2-3 days (active
deletionnist) and I was very pleased to note the very serious increase
in articles related to Marrocco. These are not always good ones, lot's
of stuff on small villages, famous sportmen, actresses etc... but this
is a very good sign that Wikipedia is now hosting a significant number
of editors in that country ;-) So, I thought it was very good news.

Ant


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Brianna Laugher | 1 Sep 2008 03:26
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Re: Wikimedia UK v2.0

2008/9/1 Anthony <wikimail@...>:
> The impression I've gotten is that the chapters are mainly just used for
> social networking and meetups.  The German chapter seems to be doing a bit
> more, but I don't know if they get significant donations from
> non-participants, and, well, most of the information on the chapter is in a
> language I don't speak.  This impression might very well be wrong.  Finding
> out information about Wikimedia matters is extremely difficult.  I try to
> keep up with all the blogs and mailing lists and unofficial and official
> websites, but I still don't know more than a small fraction of what's going
> on.

You will probably find this page enlightening.

<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Summaries>

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Mohamed Sanad | 1 Sep 2008 05:02
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Re: Arabic Wikipedia day(s) -- barnraising joys and results

I was there, and it was great day

we made a session for people who dunno how to edit in wiki and then started the edit. it was well organized day and we made around 685 written articles by people who attended and who was editing with us from home.

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj <at> gmail.com> wrote:
The Library of Alexandria (and Moushira and Abdel Rahman in particular) helped organize and host an Arabic Wikipedia day yesterday... if I read correctly, people contributed roughly 685 new articles in a day, and 4200 this month (increasing the project size by almost 1% in a day! and 6% this month).  I looked at a selection from today, and nothing seemed scripted, /many/ contributors added new articles, including a number of anons.  And it's good to see that the obligations imposed by the heavier volume is being taken seriously:
   http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%86
   http://www.bibalex.org/english/media/NewsDetails.aspx?NewsID=2278

I think Khaled Hosny and EGLUG in Cairo helped put on their own Wikipedia day(s?) earlier in August.  There was certainly discussion of Arabic-language editing drives at Wikimania in Alexandria, but it's pretty awesome to see it taking place -- barnraisings are a good spectator sport (and motivation to practice a new language :-).  Congrats to everyone involved, browsing the results made my night.

SJ
(who heard about the event but forgot during the day, and was reminded by the sitenotice when browsing ar:wp for something quite different...)

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Pharos | 2 Sep 2008 17:07
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Re: The Wikimania of my dreams

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Michael Snow <wikipedia@...> wrote:
> Milos Rancic wrote:
>> I think that it is more than possible to make one central event and a
>> number of events all over the world at the same time. All of the
>> places would be connected via video links as better as it is possible.
>>
> With or without video, though of course it would help, I think the idea
> of simultaneous events in multiple locations would be interesting to
> pursue. A second location wouldn't easily leap up to the level of
> Wikimania, though. And I hope we wouldn't simply reduce things to
> broadcasting Wikimania proceedings to other venues (closer to having an
> "audience" than including other parts of the "community").
>
> It might be good to build this kind of capacity organically, the way we
> have done other things. Perhaps two of the various meetups that happen
> regularly around the world would like to coordinate with each other as a
> first run. That could be a fun experience and an opportunity to get
> involved at the very earliest stages of something.
>
> --Michael Snow

Taking Michael's suggestion, I'd like to extend an open invitation on
behalf of the New York City meetups, if any other city (especially
internationally) is interested in hooking up with us by joint
videoconference.

Provided, of course, we can figure out the technical details.

Thanks,
Pharos

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Erik Moeller | 3 Sep 2008 20:53
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Fwd: Welcome Anya Shyrokova, Development Associate, to Wikimedia Foundation

FYI - Anya joined us last week. :-)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rand Montoya <rmontoya@...>
Date: 2008/8/26
Subject: Welcome Anya Shyrokova, Development Associate, to Wikimedia Foundation
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Hey All--

I'm quite pleased to announce that Anya Shyrokova has joined the
Wikimedia Foundation Staff as Development Associate.  Anya recently
graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with a double
major in International Political Economy and Molecular Cell Biology. She
also speaks fluent Russian, reads and writes Ukrainian, and maintains an
immediate skill in French.

Anya will be helping out in fundraising, working in the database as a
donor record manager and with the Major Gifts team on prospecting and
major gift appeals.

Welcome Anya!

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Crazy Lover | 3 Sep 2008 22:02
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STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!

there are two request

for a ancient greek wikipedia:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancient_Greek_3

and for a latin wikinews:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Latina

both are ancient languages, with NO NATIVE SPEAKERS. then they don't meet the policy, both.

The first one was proposed in 26 august, and the second since 07 june (04 months!!!).

GerardM, intermediately closed the greek request, but allow to remain the latin one.

or both must reject or continue

what are you problem? What are the interests?, why do not apply with equality the rules?

STOP!!! APPLY DOUBLE STANDARD!!!

STOP!!! HYPOCRISY!!!

Cml.

      
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Bryan Tong Minh | 3 Sep 2008 22:06
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Re: STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Crazy Lover
<always_yours.forever@...> wrote:
> there are two request
>
> for a ancient greek wikipedia:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancient_Greek_3
>
> and for a latin wikinews:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Latina
>
> both are ancient languages, with NO NATIVE SPEAKERS. then they don't meet the policy, both.
>
> The first one was proposed in 26 august, and the second since 07 june (04 months!!!).
>
> GerardM, intermediately closed the greek request, but allow to remain the latin one.
>
> or both must reject or continue
>
>
>
> what are you problem? What are the interests?, why do not apply with equality the rules?
>
>
> STOP!!! APPLY DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
>
> STOP!!! HYPOCRISY!!!
>
>
>
> Cml.
>
>
>
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Dan Rosenthal | 3 Sep 2008 22:07
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Re: STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!

Please relax, and stop accusing people. Personally, I don't see what's wrong
with creating a Latin Wikinews, since we already have an active Latin
Wikipedia.

-Dan

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Crazy Lover
<always_yours.forever@...>wrote:

> there are two request
>
> for a ancient greek wikipedia:
>
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancient_Greek_3
>
> and for a latin wikinews:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Latina
>
> both are ancient languages, with NO NATIVE SPEAKERS. then they don't meet
> the policy, both.
>
> The first one was proposed in 26 august, and the second since 07 june (04
> months!!!).
>
> GerardM, intermediately closed the greek request, but allow to remain the
> latin one.
>
> or both must reject or continue
>
>
>
> what are you problem? What are the interests?, why do not apply with
> equality the rules?
>
>
> STOP!!! APPLY DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
>
> STOP!!! HYPOCRISY!!!
>
>
>
> Cml.
>
>
>
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Marcus Buck | 3 Sep 2008 22:16

Re: STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!

Dan Rosenthal hett schreven:
> Please relax, and stop accusing people. Personally, I don't see what's wrong
> with creating a Latin Wikinews, since we already have an active Latin
> Wikipedia.
>
> -Dan
>   
There's nothing wrong with it except that it does not meet the 
requirements of the language proposal policy for new projects 
(<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy>). That policy 
asks for native speakers. That is nonsense, imho, but that's the text of 
the policy.

Slomox
Marcus Buck
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Crazy Lover
> <always_yours.forever@...>wrote:
>
>   
>> there are two request
>>
>> for a ancient greek wikipedia:
>>
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancient_Greek_3
>>
>> and for a latin wikinews:
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Latina
>>
>> both are ancient languages, with NO NATIVE SPEAKERS. then they don't meet
>> the policy, both.
>>
>> The first one was proposed in 26 august, and the second since 07 june (04
>> months!!!).
>>
>> GerardM, intermediately closed the greek request, but allow to remain the
>> latin one.
>>
>> or both must reject or continue
>>
>>
>>
>> what are you problem? What are the interests?, why do not apply with
>> equality the rules?
>>
>>
>> STOP!!! APPLY DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
>>
>> STOP!!! HYPOCRISY!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cml.
>>
>>
>>
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Ilario Valdelli | 3 Sep 2008 22:26
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Re: STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!

It's different.

There are latin speakers in the Vatican for example.

"De facto" (ops... latin) this is not the "classic" latin language but 
it's a modified language ("ecclesiatic" latin) which can be considered 
like an artificial language.

For this reason it can be compared with the Esperanto and the wikinews 
can be accepted because:

"/If the proposal is for an artificial language such as Esperanto 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto>, it must have a reasonable 
degree of recognition as determined by discussion".

/In any case a community can be present 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin#Modern_use_of_Latin).

Ilario

Marcus Buck wrote:
>
> There's nothing wrong with it except that it does not meet the 
> requirements of the language proposal policy for new projects 
> (<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy>). That policy 
> asks for native speakers. That is nonsense, imho, but that's the text of 
> the policy.
>
> Slomox
> Marcus Buck
>   
>
>
>   

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