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Michael Snow | 1 Mar 03:05
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Ben Yates wrote:
> Oops.  And also, now that I've had a chance to sit and think about it,
> florence actually seems to already be doing pretty much all the right
> things, so my message was a little redundant.  Egg, face, etc.
>   
That's okay, the link you provided was quite interesting, and as you 
said, a lot more useful than much of the rest of this discussion.

--Michael Snow

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Delirium | 1 Mar 03:09

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Mark Williamson wrote:
> As I have said before, gay people exist in every culture and country
> on this planet. Obviously, in some cultures they are used to hiding it
> so travel to Egypt would not be an issue, but this is an issue for all
> GLBT people from countries with societies that are friendlier to gays
> than is Egypt, which is a lot of countries, not just "western" ones!
> There is a list on Wikipedia if you actually care.
>   

If non-Western people have objections to the choice of venue, they can 
speak for themselves. You might have missed it, but the era of 
colonialism is over; Americans and Italians do not speak for 
non-Westerners. Therefore, when I hear objections from Westerners, I 
interpret them as "objections from Westerners".

-Mark

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Thomas Dalton | 1 Mar 14:36
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> If non-Western people have objections to the choice of venue, they can
>  speak for themselves. You might have missed it, but the era of
>  colonialism is over; Americans and Italians do not speak for
>  non-Westerners. Therefore, when I hear objections from Westerners, I
>  interpret them as "objections from Westerners".

What? Since when did America ever speak for any colonies? It was a
colony, it was never a colonial power...

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geni | 1 Mar 15:46
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On 01/03/2008, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@...> wrote:
> What? Since when did America ever speak for any colonies? It was a
>  colony, it was never a colonial power...

Puerto Rico? Various former Spannish colonies acquired at one point?

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Filip Maljkovic | 1 Mar 15:51
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[SUSPECTED SPAM] Creative Commons Salon in Serbia

Festival of Free Culture No 2

Creative Commons Salon
(7th - 10th of March 2008)
http://creativecommons.org.yu
http://slobodnakultura.org
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The first local Creative Commons Salon will consist of series of talks 
about intellectual property
and the politics of ownership and distribution within the context of 
contemporary production of
"content", and will present current local production relevant for the 
topic. Guests from Brazil,
Sweden and Croatia will share experiences and opinions connected with 
their own activistic
approach towards the issues. This time we focus more on popular 
"content" such are music,
video games and movies.

Connected with the recent launch of CC licenses in Serbia, will also 
present CCBit, first Creative
Commons-licensed music CD compilation in Serbia, and Freedom Toaster, a 
device/interface for
individual file-sharing in public spaces.

Welcome!

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David Gerard | 1 Mar 19:59
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Japan seeking to "govern" top web sites

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/27/technology/wireless28.php

- d.

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Florence Devouard | 1 Mar 20:00
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leaflets

Hello,

Following a question from a french wikipedian, I visited the page on 
meta related to leaflets: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Leaflet

Many of these leaflets are outdated. Some never went beyond the draft 
stage. Some seem to be finished, but were never produced in pdf version.

Is there anyone willing to help finish some of these leaflets ?

Of if projects or chapters have other leaflets being done and not listed 
on this page, can someone complete the meta page ?

Thanks

Ant

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Ray Saintonge | 1 Mar 20:00

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geni wrote:
> On 01/03/2008, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@...> wrote:
>   
>> What? Since when did America ever speak for any colonies? It was a
>>  colony, it was never a colonial power...
>>     
> Puerto Rico? Various former Spannish colonies acquired at one point?
The Monroe Doctrine was a neo-colonial instrument.  Helping Panama to 
break away from Colombia.  Periodic invasions and skullduggery in small 
countries when the U.S. didn't like the government, as in the Arbenz 
assassination in Guatemala.  The continuing hostile attitude towards 
Cuba and Venezuela because those countries put their own people first. 
Maintaining armed occupation is an expensive way of keeping colonies, so 
they had to find different ways of doing it.

Some might even say that Tony Blair's easy compliance in the invasion of 
Iraq showed that the colonial master role had been reversed. :-)

Ec

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Husky | 1 Mar 20:35
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Re: leaflets

I did the design for the Dutch leaflet, which is still based
(design-wise) on an older version so it might be a bit outdated
graphically. The text is very up-to-date however. I did the designs in
Adobe Illustrator, so if anybody needs the original designs and uses
Illustrator, please let me know, i could mail some source files.

-- Hay / Husky

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  Following a question from a french wikipedian, I visited the page on
>  meta related to leaflets: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Leaflet
>
>  Many of these leaflets are outdated. Some never went beyond the draft
>  stage. Some seem to be finished, but were never produced in pdf version.
>
>  Is there anyone willing to help finish some of these leaflets ?
>
>  Of if projects or chapters have other leaflets being done and not listed
>  on this page, can someone complete the meta page ?
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Ant
>
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Aphaia | 1 Mar 21:30
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Re: Japan seeking to "govern" top web sites

As background knowledge,
* Before the end of wars, there was only governmental funded
broadcasting station (NHK) and of course censored by the Imperial
Army. Publications were censored too.
* After the WW2, the Allies, factually US army occupied the country.
While they allows private funds to launch broadcasting company, they
continue to censor media, both publications and broadcasting. The most
known example is if a black GI raped Japanese woman, the only
acceptable expression is "a tall, dark-skinned man". No reference of
nationality and race. It may have drive Japanese people to cynical for
mainstream media.
* And reliable sources, US Congress archive says the US army cencored
letters written by individuals. It has never happened in this country
and only US people did.
* Before those censorship days, it may be no surprise that the
government would have liked to retain some control. For your
information, today publishing is no censored, gratefully.

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> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/27/technology/wireless28.php
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