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Dan Rosenthal | 1 Dec 01:31
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Re: Wikimedia among World Economic Forum's2008Technology Pioneers

Yes, that's the reason I pointed it out.

-Dan
On Nov 30, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Nathan Carter wrote:

> On Nov 30, 2007 8:31 PM, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester@...> wrote:
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>> Note the byline:
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>> NEW YORK, Nov. 29 /PRNewswire/
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>> That is referring to their source. Much like when you read an  
>> article on a
> news site which has Associated Press as it's byline.
> Cheers,
> Nathan
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David Gerard | 1 Dec 16:00
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GFDL/CC announcement?

http://blog.jamendo.com/index.php/2007/12/01/breaking-news-wikipedia-switches-to-creative-commons/

I've emailed the comcom and Jimbo asking for the first-hand details.

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Andrew Gray | 1 Dec 16:10
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

On 01/12/2007, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
> http://blog.jamendo.com/index.php/2007/12/01/breaking-news-wikipedia-switches-to-creative-commons/
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> I've emailed the comcom and Jimbo asking for the first-hand details.

"Wikipedia switches to Creative Commons" is, um, so not the way to
describe this, and we need to be very proactive about making sure we
don't describe it to the community that way - "compatibility" is the
term to emphasise.

(I can't be the only one who likes the license and loathes the brand...)

But this seems like good news - I hadn't realised the harmonisation of
the GFDL was so close.

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David Gerard | 1 Dec 16:16
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

On 01/12/2007, Andrew Gray <shimgray@...> wrote:

> But this seems like good news - I hadn't realised the harmonisation of
> the GFDL was so close.

Well, Mike did say so right here ...

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Andrew Gray | 1 Dec 16:26
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

On 01/12/2007, David Gerard <dgerard@...> wrote:
> On 01/12/2007, Andrew Gray <shimgray@...> wrote:
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> > But this seems like good news - I hadn't realised the harmonisation of
> > the GFDL was so close.
>
> Well, Mike did say so right here ...

Yeah, but I still wasn't expecting it next week!

Congratulations and my thanks to all involved.

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Florence Devouard | 1 Dec 16:41
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

David Gerard wrote:
> http://blog.jamendo.com/index.php/2007/12/01/breaking-news-wikipedia-switches-to-creative-commons/
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> I've emailed the comcom and Jimbo asking for the first-hand details.
> 
> 
> - d.

Well, you might be surprised, but the board sometimes is first-hand 
source on information it votes upon. Which is the current case.

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:License_update

Let me copy below the text of this resolution for easy access

Whereas the Board seeks to respond responsibily to longstanding 
community concerns about issues of compatibility between the GNU Free 
Documentation License and the Creative Commons CC-BY-SA license, as well 
as to continue longstanding traditions of strong community input and 
control over major decisions affecting the projects, and

Whereas a long period of discussion and negotiation between and amongst 
the Free Software Foundation, Creative Commons, the Wikimedia Foundation 
and others has produced a proposal supported by both the FSF and 
Creative Commons to modify the Free Documentation License in such a 
fashion as to allow the possibility for the Wikimedia Foundation to 
migrate the projects to CC-BY-SA, and

Whereas, Creative Commons and the Free Software Foundation (FSF) would 
like formal support for this license change,
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Andrew Gray | 1 Dec 17:07
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

On 01/12/2007, Florence Devouard <Anthere9@...> wrote:

> ...to modify the Free Documentation License in such a
> fashion as to allow the possibility for the Wikimedia Foundation to
> migrate the projects to CC-BY-SA...

...okay, this is interesting, this wasn't how I expected we'd do it.

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Anthony | 1 Dec 17:42
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

On Dec 1, 2007 11:07 AM, Andrew Gray <shimgray@...> wrote:
> On 01/12/2007, Florence Devouard <Anthere9@...> wrote:
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> > ...to modify the Free Documentation License in such a
> > fashion as to allow the possibility for the Wikimedia Foundation to
> > migrate the projects to CC-BY-SA...
>
> ...okay, this is interesting, this wasn't how I expected we'd do it.
>
The idea of "relicensing" has been in the GFDL draft for a while now.
I don't know if this is how it's going to be done, but here's what's
there now:

http://gplv3.fsf.org/comments/gfdl-draft-1.html

"[8b. WIKI RELICENSING ¶ →

If the Work was previously published, with no Cover Texts, no
Invariant Sections, and no Acknowledgements or Dedications or
Endorsements section, in a system for massive public collaboration
under version 1.2 of this License, and if all the material in the Work
was either initially developed in that collaboration system or had
been imported into it before 1 June 2006, then you may relicense the
Work under the GNU Wiki License.]"

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Anthony | 1 Dec 17:45
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

BTW, the text "mass collaborative projects" in the WMF resolution
roughly matches the "system for massive public collaboration" talked
about in the GFDL draft.

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mike.lifeguard | 1 Dec 17:46
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Re: GFDL/CC announcement?

This makes all the hand-wringing and the-sky-is-falling ("o noes! we can't
switch now - it's too late!") emails of the last 2 weeks or so seem a tad
silly. *Of course* this is the kind of thing that would happen to "get us
out of" the GFDL. Isn't that what rational people were saying all along?!
-Mike.lifeguard

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On 01/12/2007, Florence Devouard <Anthere9@...> wrote:

> ...to modify the Free Documentation License in such a
> fashion as to allow the possibility for the Wikimedia Foundation to
> migrate the projects to CC-BY-SA...

...okay, this is interesting, this wasn't how I expected we'd do it.

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