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Erik Moeller | 1 Oct 03:15
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Re: YouTube Non-profit Program (Wiinews)

On 9/30/07, Jason Safoutin <jason.safoutin@...> wrote:
> Broadcast Your Cause <http://youtube.com/nonprofits>

This seems like something WMF may want to sign up for in order to
broadcast its own fundraising messages. For Wikinews video efforts, I
could not support it without legal blessings from Mike. (Again, this
may show the benefits of having a separate Wikinews-related
non-profit.)

In general, please contact Sue Gardner <sgardner at wikimedia dot org>
and Mike Godwin <mgodwin at wikimedia dot org> as a first step in such
matters; they will escalate to the Board if necessary. There is no
such thing as a quick Board decision.

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Gabe Johnson | 1 Oct 03:41
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Re: YouTube Non-profit Program (Wiinews)

On 9/30/07, Erik Moeller <erik@...> wrote:
> On 9/30/07, Jason Safoutin <jason.safoutin@...> wrote:
> > Broadcast Your Cause <http://youtube.com/nonprofits>
>
> This seems like something WMF may want to sign up for in order to
> broadcast its own fundraising messages. For Wikinews video efforts, I
> could not support it without legal blessings from Mike. (Again, this
> may show the benefits of having a separate Wikinews-related
> non-profit.)
>
> In general, please contact Sue Gardner <sgardner at wikimedia dot org>
> and Mike Godwin <mgodwin at wikimedia dot org> as a first step in such
> matters; they will escalate to the Board if necessary. There is no
> such thing as a quick Board decision.
>
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Perhaps the best setup might be an umbrella channel for all the
Wikimedia Foundation. It could have Wikipedia, Wiktionary, and other
projects' videos on it as well as Wikinews (who might find it the most
useful). However, I see no need for a seperate nonprofit organization
for an individual project, as that could potentially create all sorts
of confusion. ~~~~

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Gregory Maxwell | 1 Oct 05:16
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Video fundraising and YouTube Non-profit Program (Wiinews)

On 9/30/07, Gabe Johnson <gjzilla@...> wrote:
> Perhaps the best setup might be an umbrella channel for all the
> Wikimedia Foundation. It could have Wikipedia, Wiktionary, and other
> projects' videos on it as well as Wikinews (who might find it the most
> useful). However, I see no need for a seperate nonprofit organization
> for an individual project, as that could potentially create all sorts
> of confusion. ~~~~

You should be aware that, as mentioned in prior discussions, YouTube's
terms of service are clearly incompatible with copylefted freely
licensed content.

By posting copylefted content authored by third parties on youtube you
will almost certainly be violating the license of thoses works and
will open yourself up to the normal remedies available.

Your own content, OTOH, is of course your decision... although I think
is unfortunate to see Wikimedia involved folks submitting content to a
site with a terms of service which is so unfriendly towards the free
dissemination of knowledge.

On 9/30/07, Erik Moeller <erik@...> wrote:
> This seems like something WMF may want to sign up for in order to
> broadcast its own fundraising messages.

As it stands Wikimedia doesn't even have passable basic graphic banner
ads to promote the fundraiser and you're expecting us to somehow pull
out an effective video fundraiser message?

I'm all for exploring new promotional methods but it is important to
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Erik Moeller | 1 Oct 05:55
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Rethinking fundraising (2): Storytelling

Wikimedia's past fundraising campaigns have traditionally focused on
one simple message: "We are growing fast, and we need your help to
support our infrastructure." While enough funds were raised to support
Wikimedia's survival, this message is unlikely to arouse emotion or
passion among potential donors.

Even the appeal to "imagine a world in which every human being can
share in the sum of all knowledge" is, at its heart, factual and
generic; it does not tell stories of individuals, or describe deep
changes in people's lives. Such stories depend not just on facts, but
also on poetic writing and carefully chosen photographs or videos. It
is not enough for a potential donor to rationally understand that they
are supporting an important website. They must be emotionally
convinced that they have a moral obligation to contribute to a
world-changing mission.

Before one can tell stories, however, one must gather and write them.
We can identify the following sources of stories that are relevant to
fundraising efforts, ordered by the level of control the Foundation
can exercise over the messaging:
* Foundation-level programs
* Chapter-level programs
* Community experience
* Outside experience

The potential impact of new WMF and chapter programs on future
fundraising initiatives should at least be taken into consideration
during program planning. It makes sense to attempt to measure this, by
rating ongoing programs according to their impact on fundraising.
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Erik Moeller | 1 Oct 06:02
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Re: Video fundraising and YouTube Non-profit Program (Wiinews)

On 10/1/07, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@...> wrote:
> With this in mind I think that this out-of-the-blue mention of video
> fundraising makes me wonder if anyone has clearly established the
> priorities around here.

Rest assured, they have. But if you don't want to rest, your time
would be well spent discussing with Sue the work that has always been
done, and useful ways in which you could contribute. :-)
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Re: Video fundraising and YouTube Non-profit Program (Wiinews)

On 10/1/07, Erik Moeller <erik@...> wrote:
> Rest assured, they have. But if you don't want to rest, your time
> would be well spent discussing with Sue the work that has always been
> done, and useful ways in which you could contribute. :-)

(always->already - need sleep)

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phoebe ayers | 1 Oct 06:04
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Re: Surveys

On 9/29/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@... > wrote:
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> Folks,
>
> Has any type of survey of individual Community Members ever been taken on
> any online Foundation project?
>
> If there has, what were the mechanics involved in taking it? If not, would
> conducting such a survey be possible?
>
> I am somewhat computer-challenged, so please be gentle :-).
>
> Marc Riddell

* See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_survey for an idea which
has long been in the works, but never completed;
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/General_User_Survey is a discussion of a
possible general user survey, with recent updates

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Research and
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research for a fuller listing of people who
are interested in research, including lots of people who have done or want
to do small qualitative surveys

There are all sorts of problems with doing a proper quantitative survey,
ranging from getting a good sample to preserving privacy; doing a
qualitative survey is easier, but that also of course has problems. However,
I think the data from a good survey would be very interesting to lots of
people.
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Marc Riddell | 1 Oct 14:10
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Re: Surveys


> On 9/29/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@... > wrote:
>> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Has any type of survey of individual Community Members ever been taken on
>> any online Foundation project?
>> 
>> If there has, what were the mechanics involved in taking it? If not, would
>> conducting such a survey be possible?
>> 
>> I am somewhat computer-challenged, so please be gentle :-).
>> 
>> Marc Riddell
> 
> on 10/1/07 12:04 AM, phoebe ayers at phoebe.wiki@... wrote:

> * See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_survey for an idea which
> has long been in the works, but never completed;
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/General_User_Survey is a discussion of a
> possible general user survey, with recent updates
> 
> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Research and
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research for a fuller listing of people who
> are interested in research, including lots of people who have done or want
> to do small qualitative surveys
> 
> There are all sorts of problems with doing a proper quantitative survey,
> ranging from getting a good sample to preserving privacy; doing a
> qualitative survey is easier, but that also of course has problems. However,
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Brock Weller | 1 Oct 19:03
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Re: Surveys

On 9/30/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@...> wrote:
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> on 9/30/07 6:33 PM, Brock Weller at brock.weller@... wrote:
>
> > On 9/29/07, geni <geniice@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 29/09/2007, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 29/09/2007, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@...> wrote:
> >>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has any type of survey of individual Community Members ever been
> >> taken on
> >>>>> any online Foundation project?
> >>>>
> >>> on 9/29/07 9:03 AM, geni at geniice@... wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes
> >>>>
> >>> I would like to know more about what has been done in the past.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Run a search through the list archives. An example would be
> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-June/075908.html
> >>
> >> --
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Brock Weller | 1 Oct 19:05
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Re: Surveys

On 9/30/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@...> wrote:
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> on 9/30/07 6:33 PM, Brock Weller at brock.weller@... wrote:
>
> > On 9/29/07, geni <geniice@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 29/09/2007, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 29/09/2007, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86@...> wrote:
> >>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has any type of survey of individual Community Members ever been
> >> taken on
> >>>>> any online Foundation project?
> >>>>
> >>> on 9/29/07 9:03 AM, geni at geniice@... wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes
> >>>>
> >>> I would like to know more about what has been done in the past.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Run a search through the list archives. An example would be
> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-June/075908.html
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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