Re: Incubator Logo

On 31/07/06, Anthere <Anthere9@...> wrote:
> I concur, "ask Brad".
> I will also ask a question to Brad. Is that a problem that the logo is
> so similar to the logo of the Foundation (which seems to breech
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines ?)
>
> Anthere

I disagree with them looking too similar, they are part of a theme.
But, in the future, perhaps a member of the board should monitor logo
votes to prevent this kind of thing happening?

It seems rather silly (and very bureaucratic) that dozens of users
have participated in a discussion about the Incubator logo, that
several have invested time designing logos, and that dozens have
voted, only to be shot down after the completion of the vote (so
community selection of the logo) by the Foundation.
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Re: Incubator Logo

Hi.

I am sorry to say that this logo violates the Wikimedia Visual
identity guidelines [1].

On a personal note, I am saddened to see that we don't seem to come up
with any grand ideas, a little fresh and different, for new logos that
are needed. As much as I like the idea behind the logo, I find it
disheartening that people keep adapting the same logos again and
again. For an incubator, this is even sadder.

In any case, before a  new logo is used on any of the Wikimedia
projects/websites, it should be approved by the board of the Wikimedia
Foundation.

Cheers,

Delphine
[1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines

On 7/31/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) <alphasigmax@...> wrote:
> Daniel Bregman wrote:
> > After nearly a month of voting, the logo has been chosen for Wikimedia
> > Incubator
> > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Incubator/logo).
> >
> > I'm writing on behalf of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NielsF, who
> > created the logo. He wishes to know how to tranfer copyright over to the
> > Wikimedia Foundation.
> >

Re: Incubator Logo

On 01/08/06, Delphine Ménard <notafishz <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On a personal note, I am saddened to see that we don't seem to come up
> with any grand ideas, a little fresh and different, for new logos that
> are needed. As much as I like the idea behind the logo, I find it
> disheartening that people keep adapting the same logos again and
> again. For an incubator, this is even sadder.

I entirely disagree. I think all Wikimedia logos should conform to a
particular theme (stylistic, colour, &c.). It gives Wikimedia a
unifying identity ([[corporate identity]]?) and makes our projects
quickly recognisable.

Many logos were nominated, some completely different to existing
logos, others not. Users chose this one by majority and we should work
to preserve this decision (perhaps by minimally modifying the logo to
escape the problem and resubmitting it to a vote).
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Re: Incubator Logo

On 8/1/06, Oldak Quill <oldakquill@...> wrote:
> I entirely disagree. I think all Wikimedia logos should conform to a
> particular theme (stylistic, colour, &c.). It gives Wikimedia a
> unifying identity ([[corporate identity]]?) and makes our projects
> quickly recognisable.

As long as nobody gets the idea to color our lovely Wikipedia puzzle
ball in the Wikimedia colors .. 

Erik

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Re: Incubator Logo

Delphine Ménard wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I am sorry to say that this logo violates the Wikimedia Visual
> identity guidelines [1].
> 
> On a personal note, I am saddened to see that we don't seem to come up
> with any grand ideas, a little fresh and different, for new logos that
> are needed. As much as I like the idea behind the logo, I find it
> disheartening that people keep adapting the same logos again and
> again. For an incubator, this is even sadder.
> 

Reminds me of the Wikisource problem - people kept trying to make
variations of the Wikipedia logo...

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Re: Incubator Logo

Oldak Quill wrote:
> On 31/07/06, Anthere <Anthere9@...> wrote:
> 
>>I concur, "ask Brad".
>>I will also ask a question to Brad. Is that a problem that the logo is
>>so similar to the logo of the Foundation (which seems to breech
>>http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines ?)
>>
>>Anthere
> 
> 
> I disagree with them looking too similar, they are part of a theme.

That's debatable. There are good sides and bad sides. I am rather 
neutral toward the idea of using a "theme".

On the "good" side, it may help promote a new project that readers 
automatically "connect" it with a bigger project they already love and 
understand (except that the project they love is actually Wikipedia, so 
they do not connect anything at all).

On the "good" side, it may help that it be "connected" with meta.

On the "bad" side, we may wonder how the logo of our 15th project will 
look... it might become a bit confusing to see all these so-similar 
logos. I like the egg-concept. It may be that always using the same 
colors might be interpretated as a lack of creativity.

BUT *here*, my question was essentially legalistic.

Re: Incubator Logo

Thanks all. I'm especially glad that it won't breach the guidelines.

Now I have to ask (feeling rather silly): who's Brad? Tell me please.

Thank you, again.

Daniel http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dbmag9

Re: Incubator Logo

Daniel Bregman wrote:
> Thanks all. I'm especially glad that it won't breach the guidelines.
> 
> Now I have to ask (feeling rather silly): who's Brad? Tell me please.
> 
> Thank you, again.
> 
> Daniel http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dbmag9

Brad Patrick is our Executive Director. He is also our legal counsel (he 
is a lawyer). You may reach him at bpatrick AT wikimedia.org.

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_Announces_Interim_Executive_Director

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution_CEO

Anthere