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Timwi | 3 Sep 2004 22:21
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Suggestion: get rid of "Edit Conflict" screen


I have just posted a suggestion to meta.  I think we should get rid of 
the "Edit Conflict" screen.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_conflict_handling_suggestion

In summary, the idea is to allow anyone (including experienced users) to 
resolve an edit conflict (which a newbie might not be able to).

Please discuss.  :-)

Timwi
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rodrigo vera | 4 Sep 2004 09:12
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Chilef Wikipedia

I am a student from the Tecnical University Federico Santa Maria of
Chile, i am preparing a proyect for creating an encyclopedia of Chile
with mediawiki,

We plan to create a meta-site named www.chilef.cl (or
chilef.mediawiki.org if you like)  wich coordinate de effort for
creating this large scale proyect.

we really whant to create a "evangelization process"  for this, with a
litle help of e-mails, contacts in chilean universities (we have) and
chain reaction messages through people we know.

also we want to administer links with es.wikipedia.com for some content.

we think that a strong net of contacts will make all the force needed
by this proyect and want to  share it whit you.
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Christopher Larberg | 4 Sep 2004 09:22
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Re: Chilef Wikipedia

Can you clarify what you intend to do with this encyclopedia? Create an encyclopedia specifically about
Chile? Also, is the actual encyclopedia going to be online? You speak of making a "meta-site" with
MediaWiki, but you haven't mentioned the actual project.

Also, what exactly is the intent of this e-mail? Are you just informing us, or do you want us to do something?

Sorry for the questions; I'm just curious. =)
--Slowking Man
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rodrigo vera<mailto:rvabrilot@...> 
  To:
foundation-l@...<mailto:foundation-l@...> 
  Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:12 AM
  Subject: [Foundation-l] Chilef Wikipedia

  I am a student from the Tecnical University Federico Santa Maria of
  Chile, i am preparing a proyect for creating an encyclopedia of Chile
  with mediawiki,

  We plan to create a meta-site named www.chilef.cl<http://www.chilef.cl/> (or
  chilef.mediawiki.org if you like)  wich coordinate de effort for
  creating this large scale proyect.

  we really whant to create a "evangelization process"  for this, with a
  litle help of e-mails, contacts in chilean universities (we have) and
  chain reaction messages through people we know.

  also we want to administer links with es.wikipedia.com for some content.

  we think that a strong net of contacts will make all the force needed
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Anthere | 4 Sep 2004 16:28
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Wikimedia Foundation web site needs you

Hello,

The future wikimedia website may be found here :
http://wikimedia.org/wiki/Home

For it to become truely our site, it needs input from
editors. You may find here
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_website)
some ideas about we would like it to become and why.

You are welcome to help adding content in it. For
this, you need to ask for an account. Please do so to
Angela or I.

Mostly, to be functionnal, the website needs technical
help. An irc occured a while ago on the topic. The
link is here :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_website_meeting%2C_July_2004

In this discussion, it was concluded that there were a
bunch of things to fix, such as html handling,
different skin for loggued-in users and non loggued-in
users, languages...
The current situation in any cases is that

* We cannot host the fundraising page
* We cannot easily handle multilingualism

The first point makes it impossible for the website to
just exist.
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Anthere | 4 Sep 2004 16:39
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Foundation website, address

Oh, I forgot...

I remember a mail was sent to the owner of
wikimedia.com. 
What are the news on that topic ?

for information
We chose to have the site at WikimediaFoundation
rather than the easier Wikimedia, for the simple
reason that we do not own wikimedia.com.

Ant

		
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Anthere | 4 Sep 2004 16:51
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Developer payment

Hello

I made a proposal for how we could handle this tricky
issue on
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer_payment.

I invite you to read it and to comment if you wish :-)

My belief is that it is a decent compromise between
all the wishes expressed (well, at least I hope).

I remind you that this is a trial, not a permanent
decision.

The plain idea is 
* that the opportunity is taken to clean up and
organise better a couple of pages (such as
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Development_tasks)

* to avoid bureaucracy.
**If an editor or the foundation wishes for a task to
be done, just ask
**If a developer is ready to take care of a matter,
just mentions it on development task. If he would be
interested by getting in contract, please mentions it
on [[development payment proposal]] (or any title you 
think best)

*to always ensure that this task is welcome by the
entire community (please discuss it before on mailing
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Anthere | 4 Sep 2004 16:54
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Re: Wikimedia Foundation web site needs you


Anthere a écrit:
> Hello,
> 
> The future wikimedia website may be found here :
> http://wikimedia.org/wiki/Home
> 
> For it to become truely our site, it needs input from
> editors. You may find here
> (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_website)
> some ideas about we would like it to become and why.

For a follow up, I created an account for Danny (english contributor) 
right now, and one for Tipiac this week (french contributor).
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James R. Johnson | 4 Sep 2004 18:30
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RE: Wikimedia Foundation web site needs you

Hello Anthere,
	I can help with translating from French after March (since I'll be
in France, and know more then), but for now, I can help translate to German
and Anglo-Saxon.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: foundation-l-bounces@...
[mailto:foundation-l-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Anthere
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 10:28 AM
To: wikitech-l@...
Cc: foundation-l@...
Subject: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation web site needs you

Hello,

The future wikimedia website may be found here :
http://wikimedia.org/wiki/Home

For it to become truely our site, it needs input from
editors. You may find here
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_website)
some ideas about we would like it to become and why.

You are welcome to help adding content in it. For
this, you need to ask for an account. Please do so to
Angela or I.

Mostly, to be functionnal, the website needs technical
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Timwi | 5 Sep 2004 02:10
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Re: Developer payment

Anthere wrote:

> The plain idea is 
> * that the opportunity is taken to clean up and
> organise better a couple of pages (such as
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Development_tasks)
> [...]
> **If a developer is ready to take care of a matter,
> just mentions it on development task. If he would be
> interested by getting in contract, please mentions it
> on [[development payment proposal]] (or any title you 
> think best)

You have made no mention of MediaZilla, which saddens me a bit.  I don't 
know about others, but personally, I would find a wiki page quite 
difficult to keep overviewable and organised, which is why I helped 
install MediaZilla.  I think it is easier to prioritise individual items 
in MediaZilla, or break them up into constituent parts, etc.  A 
developer can express their wish to take care of a particular bug or 
feature by simply assigning the item to themselves.  The board can 
express their offer to pay for a particular feature or bug by simply 
adding a keyword (and perhaps leaving a comment with the amount).  It 
can't really get any easier than this.

Timwi
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Erik Moeller | 5 Sep 2004 03:20
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Re: Secretlondon's attacks on Jimbo Wales

Jimmy-
(cc to foundation-l)
> I wrote:
>> I'm getting sick of your US bashing.  Please stop it now.

> I regretted it, and apologized.  I apologized again today.  I try to
> be nice to everyone, but sometimes I fail, and I'm very sorry about
> that.

I see two problems here:

1) People confuse your personal opinions with Wikipedia policy. Maybe a  
copy&paste disclaimer for your emails would help with that? "The opinions  
in this email are my own and do not reflect Wikimedia or Wikipedia project  
policy unless otherwise stated." Most email clients support multiple sigs  
for purposes like that.

2) People don't realize that Wikimedia is not just Jimbo Wales. Most of  
our external communications have been very Jimbo-centric so far, but  
that's partially because there was no elected Board of Trustees, for  
example. Is there a shared board email address already? Maybe something  
like board at wikimedia dot org could be used as a replacement for the  
ubiquitous jwales at bomis dot com. That would also help in combating the  
Bomis-related conspiracy theories.

A ticket system would offer quite a few advantages over a simple mailing  
list: 1) no duplicate effort, 2) no need for spamming your inbox, just do  
everything through a single web interface, 3) easily expand the team of  
"agents", with different categories and associated user rights.  
Essentially a Bugzilla for emails.
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