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Richard Farmbrough | 1 Feb 14:43
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Re: Categorization project? (was: Making Wikipedia loves monuments work in the UK.)

Yes we do have an idea what we don't have pictures of.  Some articles 
are tagged with "image requested" (talk page) and have a geo-tag.  ISTR 
a tool that combines these, but I may have imagined that.

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Richard Farmbrough | 1 Feb 15:20
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Re: The new British standard for copyright infringement...

I wonder if 
http://www.popartuk.com/photography/london/red-bus-on-westminster-bridge-ph0408-poster.asp 
would have been considered enough to make the idea non-novel.

On 25/01/2012 22:23, geni wrote:
> On 25 January 2012 19:18, Magnus Manske<magnusmanske <at> googlemail.com>  wrote:
>> ...photos that somehow look similar:
>>
>> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html
>>
>> The servers are safe (well, relatively speaking) in the U.S., but
>> should people in the UK be concerned when uploading images?
>>
>>
>> Magnus
> Nothing new here. Its always been understood that in theory if you see
> a photo and take another photo that is similar enough to it to be
> considered a derivative work that that is a copyright violation.
> However in most cases it would be extremely hard to prove and people
> don't care enough to try.
>

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Harry Burt | 1 Feb 15:45
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Re: The new British standard for copyright infringement...

That might actually be licensed, though.

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Richard Farmbrough <richard <at> farmbrough.co.uk> wrote:
I wonder if http://www.popartuk.com/photography/london/red-bus-on-westminster-bridge-ph0408-poster.asp would have been considered enough to make the idea non-novel.


On 25/01/2012 22:23, geni wrote:
On 25 January 2012 19:18, Magnus Manske<magnusmanske <at> googlemail.com>  wrote:
...photos that somehow look similar:

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html

The servers are safe (well, relatively speaking) in the U.S., but
should people in the UK be concerned when uploading images?


Magnus
Nothing new here. Its always been understood that in theory if you see
a photo and take another photo that is similar enough to it to be
considered a derivative work that that is a copyright violation.
However in most cases it would be extremely hard to prove and people
don't care enough to try.



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Richard Farmbrough | 1 Feb 16:31
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Looking for Workshop participants for Amman: Middle Eastern Participation and Presence in Wikipedia

This research project (which I am part of) is looking for participants 
for a workshop in Amman in April.

In particular we are interested in those who edit from or about the 
Middle East, either extensively, or who have been discouraged from 
editing more due to on-wiki issues.

Full details at 
http://www.zerogeography.net/2012/02/open-invitation-to-workshop-in-amman.html.

All the best,

Richard Farmbrough

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Roger Bamkin | 1 Feb 22:56
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Re: The new British standard for copyright infringement...

I'm not surprised by this. Copyight is about the interpretation of an idea. If Marcel Duchamp claims copyright on putting a moustache on the Mona Lisa then I can see that I am stealing his idea by putting a moustache on another similar famous painting by da Vinci.

In this case the idea is the red bus against a black and white image. Actually I think the first one is "obvious" having seen Schindlers list, but I can see that others may not consider it "obvious" (You are allowed to infringe another person's copyright if their idea is obvious - I believe).

This is not about  the images being similar its about stealing? the red bus v. black and white parliament image background idea. There was a similar case with the classic guinness ad where someone had already shot a man dancing around a pint of beer. Then Guinness created their own version and refused to credit/pay the man with the original idea (if I remember right)

On 1 February 2012 14:45, Harry Burt <harryaburt <at> gmail.com> wrote:
That might actually be licensed, though.

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Richard Farmbrough <richard <at> farmbrough.co.uk> wrote:
I wonder if http://www.popartuk.com/photography/london/red-bus-on-westminster-bridge-ph0408-poster.asp would have been considered enough to make the idea non-novel.


On 25/01/2012 22:23, geni wrote:
On 25 January 2012 19:18, Magnus Manske<magnusmanske <at> googlemail.com>  wrote:
...photos that somehow look similar:

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html

The servers are safe (well, relatively speaking) in the U.S., but
should people in the UK be concerned when uploading images?


Magnus
Nothing new here. Its always been understood that in theory if you see
a photo and take another photo that is similar enough to it to be
considered a derivative work that that is a copyright violation.
However in most cases it would be extremely hard to prove and people
don't care enough to try.



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HJ Mitchell | 2 Feb 00:12
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WMUK userbox

{{WMUK}} is a little too "in your face" for my humble userpage, and I don't know of any userbox equivalent, so I created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell/WMUK.

Feel free to pinch it!

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Deryck Chan | 2 Feb 00:28
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Re: WMUK userbox

Awesome. May we have a Meta version as well?

On 1 February 2012 23:12, HJ Mitchell <hjmitchell <at> ymail.com> wrote:
{{WMUK}} is a little too "in your face" for my humble userpage, and I don't know of any userbox equivalent, so I created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell/WMUK.

Feel free to pinch it!

Harry

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Mo Hobeyl | 2 Feb 11:28

Re: Looking for Workshop participants for Amman: Middle Eastern Participation and Presence in Wikipedia

Hi there ,

Thank you for your email

The project sounds interesting and i would like to partake in it as best as i possibly can if time permits by then

Please keep me informed about what you deem is worth knowing

With my best wishes

Mo Hobeyl


> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:31:54 +0000
> From: richard <at> farmbrough.co.uk
> To: wikimediauk-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org; wikiar-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Looking for Workshop participants for Amman: Middle Eastern Participation and Presence in Wikipedia
>
> This research project (which I am part of) is looking for participants
> for a workshop in Amman in April.
>
> In particular we are interested in those who edit from or about the
> Middle East, either extensively, or who have been discouraged from
> editing more due to on-wiki issues.
>
> Full details at
> http://www.zerogeography.net/2012/02/open-invitation-to-workshop-in-amman.html.
>
> All the best,
>
> Richard Farmbrough
>
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Harry Burt | 2 Feb 19:25
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Thanks-Gift-Aid page

Hey all.

Perhaps it would be worth some clarifying the Thanks-Gift-Aid page to the extent that (with the exception of email address) all fields are necessary for the purpose of claiming GiftAid, and/or that the information provided will only be used for that purpose and then destroyed (or whatever the reality of the matter is).

Just a thought,
Harry (User:Jarry1250)

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Thomas Dalton | 2 Feb 20:00
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Re: Thanks-Gift-Aid page

On 2 February 2012 18:25, Harry Burt <harryaburt <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all.
>
> Perhaps it would be worth some clarifying the Thanks-Gift-Aid page to the
> extent that (with the exception of email address) all fields are necessary
> for the purpose of claiming GiftAid, and/or that the information provided
> will only be used for that purpose and then destroyed (or whatever the
> reality of the matter is).

If anyone is wondering, the page in question is here [1].

Well, it won't be destroyed - it has to be kept in case HMRC decide to
do an audit.

There is a very small link at the very bottom of the page to the
privacy policy [2] - it wouldn't hurt to link to it somewhere more
prominently.

1. http://donate.wikimedia.org.uk/thanks-gift-aid
2. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Privacy_policy

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