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2009/6/1 Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil <at> wikinewsie.org>:
> I know this may be early days, but I see mention of chapter negotiations and
> this is a somewhat related issue.
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> Most people here (not in the wider public) know about the Cafepress store
> for Wiki merchandise, but it doesn’t really cut it anymore. I am aware that
> alternatives are being looked at, but this may not be global coverage, and
> would likely not cope with localised merchandise for WM UK.
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> I know the Wikimedia name is covered in the chapters’ agreement(s), but if
> you wanted to do a members-only T-shirt, could you do “Wikimedia UK,
> Supporting the Wikipedia Mission” shirts from a local supplier to keep
> shipping costs down? Obviously a cut goes to the WMF, but this seems like a
> good point to cover in any future agreement.

Merchandise has been discussed and the WMF has always been supportive
of chapters selling merchandise, at least to members. I don't think
there would be any need to give the WMF a cut. The exact details of
how the trademark agreement is worded in respect to such things is yet
to be worked out, but whatever the final wording is we have Mike
Godwin's explicit promise that we will be able to sell t-shirts to
members.

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2009/5/31 Andrew Turvey <andrewrturvey <at> googlemail.com>:
> We have recently been approached by a company asking for someone to be video
> interviewed on the subject of how Wikipedia can be used in universities.
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> The company is a spin off from Imperial College in London and is partly
> public owned and partly privately owned. They are currently preparing
> courses in new technology, which are expected to be used by over 100 higher
> education institutions around the world.

Sorry, I'm a little confused - is this using Wikipedia in higher
education, or "using wikis" in higher education?

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See http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php? 
id=2876&pg=15&cat=30

Mike

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2009/6/1 Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net>:
> See http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php?
> id=2876&pg=15&cat=30

"HMRC had denied charitable tax status to Wikimedia UK, which runs the
Wikipedia UK website, stating that production of an encyclopaedia is
not a charitable purpose."

They're not even trying... "the Wikipedia UK" website?

Good quotes from Andrew though - well done!

I thought we spoke to the WMF ages ago (in fact, I think I did it) and
they didn't know any useful lawyers, so where did that bit come from?

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I'm sure if we set up an Ebay account and got Jimbo to sign some stuff there would be buyers.

More importantly once we are a registered charity we can tap into things like this: http://www.justgiving.com/statements/about_us/charities.asp

As well as [[Payroll giving]]

As for T shirts, aren't they slightly old hat?

I would have thought cufflinks, coffee mugs, mousemats and library card holders would be more appropriate
for our target market.

And with the wonders of commons we ought to be able to do a neat line in calendars, postcards and greeting cards.

Here are two companies that do calendars

http://www.suomiprint.co.uk/quote/calendars.html

http://www.thedesignfactoryltd.co.uk/

Lots of charities have calendars sold through retailers in the run up to Xmas, I'm sure a wikipedia one could
easily get shelf space. You could even print an in this month panel to add interest; or do different
versions - Sports, Milhist, bizarre happenings etc. 

WereSpielChequers

--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil <at> wikinewsie.org> wrote:

> From: Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil <at> wikinewsie.org>
> Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Merchandise
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> Most people here
> (not in the wider public) know about the Cafepress
> store for Wiki merchandise, but it doesn’t really cut
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> aware that alternatives are being looked at, but this may
> not be global
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> merchandise for WM UK.
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> agreement(s), but if you wanted to do a members-only
> T-shirt, could you do “Wikimedia
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> Supporting the
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> Mission” shirts from a local supplier to keep
> shipping costs down? Obviously
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2009/6/1 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet <at> hotmail.co.uk>:
> We need to ask them to correct the point where they say "Wikimedia, which
> has income of less than £5,000 a year, has decided to stop referring to
> itself as a charity or an exempt charity, as it has up until now, and start
> describing itself as a ‘not-for-profit’ instead." We arnt wikimedia.

The bit where they say we run the "Wikipedia UK" website is more of a
problem, I think. The fact that we don't run Wikipedia is extremely
important.

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The author has now corrected the article. I've also added a paragraph  
to our website to try to explain this a bit better in general; tweaks  
to that text would be more than welcome.

Thanks,
Mike

On 1 Jun 2009, at 14:53, Thomas Dalton wrote:

> 2009/6/1 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet <at> hotmail.co.uk>:
>> We need to ask them to correct the point where they say  
>> "Wikimedia, which
>> has income of less than £5,000 a year, has decided to stop  
>> referring to
>> itself as a charity or an exempt charity, as it has up until now,  
>> and start
>> describing itself as a ‘not-for-profit’ instead." We arnt wikimedia.
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> The bit where they say we run the "Wikipedia UK" website is more of a
> problem, I think. The fact that we don't run Wikipedia is extremely
> important.
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2009/6/1 Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net>:
> The author has now corrected the article. I've also added a paragraph
> to our website to try to explain this a bit better in general; tweaks
> to that text would be more than welcome.

Much improved! Do we credit you with that?

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