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Andrew Turvey | 2 Nov 02:04
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Membership Fee - Poll?

I was thinking about this decision about whether to charge a memberhsip fee and I'm wondering if we ought to
try and get more people's views on this before going ahead.

I don't remember this being discussed particularly during the election and although there's been some
discussion on this email list, it strikes me as being quite a big decision that many more people will have a
view on.

Should we organise some kind of poll on meta and contact all the people who have expressed an interest and
encourage them to vote one way or another?

What do others think?

 
Andrew

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Ian A. Holton | 2 Nov 02:26
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Re: Membership Fee - Poll?

Andrew,

 I believe this would be a good idea and the most efficient and
transparent way to find out what the current community consensus is.

Ian
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On 11/2/08, Andrew Turvey <raturvey <at> yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I was thinking about this decision about whether to charge a memberhsip fee
> and I'm wondering if we ought to try and get more people's views on this
> before going ahead.
>
> I don't remember this being discussed particularly during the election and
> although there's been some discussion on this email list, it strikes me as
> being quite a big decision that many more people will have a view on.
>
> Should we organise some kind of poll on meta and contact all the people who
> have expressed an interest and encourage them to vote one way or another?
>
> What do others think?
>
>
> Andrew
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Thomas Dalton | 2 Nov 02:32
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2008/11/2 Andrew Turvey <raturvey <at> yahoo.co.uk>:
> I was thinking about this decision about whether to charge a memberhsip fee and I'm wondering if we ought to
try and get more people's views on this before going ahead.
>
> I don't remember this being discussed particularly during the election and although there's been some
discussion on this email list, it strikes me as being quite a big decision that many more people will have a
view on.
>
> Should we organise some kind of poll on meta and contact all the people who have expressed an interest and
encourage them to vote one way or another?
>
> What do others think?

I don't think it's a particularly big deal, all it really affects is
where we hold the AGM. I have no problem with the board making the
decision (after consultation with the community, sure, but no need for
a poll).

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Ian A. Holton | 2 Nov 04:44
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In my opinion a poll is consultation of the community and is the most
transparent way to see how a decision was made. It also doesn't take
much effort to create and run.

On 11/2/08, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/11/2 Andrew Turvey <raturvey <at> yahoo.co.uk>:
>> I was thinking about this decision about whether to charge a memberhsip
>> fee and I'm wondering if we ought to try and get more people's views on
>> this before going ahead.
>>
>> I don't remember this being discussed particularly during the election and
>> although there's been some discussion on this email list, it strikes me as
>> being quite a big decision that many more people will have a view on.
>>
>> Should we organise some kind of poll on meta and contact all the people
>> who have expressed an interest and encourage them to vote one way or
>> another?
>>
>> What do others think?
>
> I don't think it's a particularly big deal, all it really affects is
> where we hold the AGM. I have no problem with the board making the
> decision (after consultation with the community, sure, but no need for
> a poll).
>
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Michael Peel | 2 Nov 18:18

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A proposal that I brought up at the in-person meeting, and which I  
plan to raise at the next Board Meeting, is for us to set up a  
newsletter to be circulated by a bot to interested people on-wiki say  
every fortnight or month. This is the kind of thing that could go  
into that. What do people here think to this idea?

Mike

On 2 Nov 2008, at 03:44, Ian A. Holton wrote:

> In my opinion a poll is consultation of the community and is the most
> transparent way to see how a decision was made. It also doesn't take
> much effort to create and run.
>
> On 11/2/08, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2008/11/2 Andrew Turvey <raturvey <at> yahoo.co.uk>:
>>> I was thinking about this decision about whether to charge a  
>>> memberhsip
>>> fee and I'm wondering if we ought to try and get more people's  
>>> views on
>>> this before going ahead.
>>>
>>> I don't remember this being discussed particularly during the  
>>> election and
>>> although there's been some discussion on this email list, it  
>>> strikes me as
>>> being quite a big decision that many more people will have a view  
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Should we organise some kind of poll on meta and contact all the
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Al Tally | 2 Nov 18:20

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On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net> wrote:
A proposal that I brought up at the in-person meeting, and which I
plan to raise at the next Board Meeting, is for us to set up a
newsletter to be circulated by a bot to interested people on-wiki say
every fortnight or month. This is the kind of thing that could go
into that. What do people here think to this idea?

Mike

A newsletter sounds like a great idea.

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Thomas Dalton | 2 Nov 19:23
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2008/11/2 Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net>:
> A proposal that I brought up at the in-person meeting, and which I
> plan to raise at the next Board Meeting, is for us to set up a
> newsletter to be circulated by a bot to interested people on-wiki say
> every fortnight or month. This is the kind of thing that could go
> into that. What do people here think to this idea?

It's a great idea. We may want to consider an email version or even a
snail mail version, it might make people feel they are getting more
for their money. How often we do it would depend on how much there is
to say. I doubt we'll have enough to do a fortnightly newsletter and
monthly may be pushing - quarterly would work.

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Michael Peel | 2 Nov 19:36

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On 2 Nov 2008, at 18:23, Thomas Dalton wrote:

> 2008/11/2 Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net>:
>> A proposal that I brought up at the in-person meeting, and which I
>> plan to raise at the next Board Meeting, is for us to set up a
>> newsletter to be circulated by a bot to interested people on-wiki say
>> every fortnight or month. This is the kind of thing that could go
>> into that. What do people here think to this idea?
>
> It's a great idea. We may want to consider an email version or even a
> snail mail version, it might make people feel they are getting more
> for their money. How often we do it would depend on how much there is
> to say. I doubt we'll have enough to do a fortnightly newsletter and
> monthly may be pushing - quarterly would work.

I was thinking fortnightly to start with, to keep people up to speed  
with the formation of WMUK2 and so that the Board could ask questions  
of the community beyond this mailing list fairly easily. After that,  
it would depend on how much actually happens with WMUK as to how  
often we want to send around a newsletter.

Technically, I was thinking that we'd set up a page on Meta which  
would hold the newsletter (probably using a formatted template), then  
use a bot to push a link to that page to everyone subscribed. Sending  
around an email with this link would also be do-able. The alternative  
is something like WP Greater Manchester's newsletter on the Signpost  
Spamlist, where a copy is pasted onto the subscriber's talk page.  
That makes it a bit more challenging to put it in an email. Which  
would people prefer?

We may eventually want a snail mail version, but I would be surprised  
if many people wanted to subscribe to it - if you know Wikipedia,  
then you have internet access, as a rule.

Mike

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Thomas Dalton | 2 Nov 19:53
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> I was thinking fortnightly to start with, to keep people up to speed
> with the formation of WMUK2 and so that the Board could ask questions
> of the community beyond this mailing list fairly easily. After that,
> it would depend on how much actually happens with WMUK as to how
> often we want to send around a newsletter.

I think things are moving too quickly for that at the moment. The
board are having weekly meetings for a reason. If a newsletter is sent
out every 2 weeks and then it takes about a week for responses to come
in, that means consultation could take up to 3 weeks. That's not
practical at this stage.

> Technically, I was thinking that we'd set up a page on Meta which
> would hold the newsletter (probably using a formatted template), then
> use a bot to push a link to that page to everyone subscribed. Sending
> around an email with this link would also be do-able. The alternative
> is something like WP Greater Manchester's newsletter on the Signpost
> Spamlist, where a copy is pasted onto the subscriber's talk page.
> That makes it a bit more challenging to put it in an email. Which
> would people prefer?

I would prefer actually including the newsletter in peoples talk pages
(or, at least, a contents page, like signpost does, depends how long
it is). People are more likely to read it that way.

> We may eventually want a snail mail version, but I would be surprised
> if many people wanted to subscribe to it - if you know Wikipedia,
> then you have internet access, as a rule.

I wouldn't have it as a subscription thing, I'd send it to all
members. It's nice to receive something physical for your membership
fee. Obviously, a snail mail version would be less frequent, quarterly
tops.

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Thomas Dalton | 3 Nov 03:05
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ChapCom response

I'm a little confused about where we currently stand. Has chapcom
approved the Mem and Arts yet? If not, is there a risk we'll have to
change them after the submission to Companies House? It's great that
things are moving forward, I'm just a little concerned that they may
be going *too* quickly.

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