The V&A doesn't want your money

http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2009/12/28/dear-museums-help-me-to-help-you/

I emailed them asking how to give them a chunk of cash and got no
answer in a month. Same from their Twitter. Well done.

- d.

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Re: The V&A doesn't want your money

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Re: The V&A doesn't want your money

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On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 06:17:16PM +0000, James Hardy wrote:
> Googling for "victoria and albert museum donations" gives this page as the
> first http://www.vam.ac.uk/support_us/giving_va/index.html

I think it was more the principle of them not replying to emails that David was trying to get across. :)

Thanks though!

Isabell.

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Re: The V&A doesn't want your money

Yes, odd that. What do other museums do?

Gordo

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Re: The V&A doesn't want your money

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly <at> pobox.com> wrote:
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> Yes, odd that. What do other museums do?
>
> Gordo

Well, it rather depends. Some museums show bones of dinosaurs, stuffed
walruses (walri?), a collection of moths, a few skulls. Others have
artefacts from Egypt (usually a mock up of The Invisible Man), coins
and incomplete sculptures (full sculptures cost too much).

They have cabinets in common; lots of cabinets made of glass. Doors,
ceilings... everything.

You should go one day.

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Re: The V&A doesn't want your money

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On 05/02/2010 18:38, Bod Notbod wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Gordon Joly<gordon.joly <at> pobox.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Yes, odd that. What do other museums do?
>>
>> Gordo
>>      
> Well, it rather depends. Some museums show bones of dinosaurs, stuffed
> walruses (walri?), a collection of moths, a few skulls. Others have
> artefacts from Egypt (usually a mock up of The Invisible Man), coins
> and incomplete sculptures (full sculptures cost too much).
>
> They have cabinets in common; lots of cabinets made of glass. Doors,
> ceilings... everything.
>
> You should go one day.
>    
I did once. And I was also a Trustee of a charity that owned a building 
that housed a museum.

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Manchester Open Data City

Hi all,

Hopefully the last cool thing for today: just discovered the  
following thanks to a tweet from @jwyg (Jonathan Gray of the Open  
knowledge Foundation)
http://www.futureeverything.org/news/opendata1

"We were funded in November 2009 by the Manchester Innovation  
Investment Fund* to work to make Manchester the UK's first Open Data  
City."

There's a social media cafe happening on Tuesday in Manchester, at  
which one of the people behind this will be talking:
http://socialmediamanchester.ning.com/events/social-media-cafe- 
february?rsvpConfirm=1
I plan to be there until I have to escape for Tuesday's board meeting  
- would be great if anyone else can come along too.

Mike

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Related places tool

Hi all,

just toolspamming my latest...

I read the announcement for "Britain Loves Wikipedia", was sad to find
no museum in or immediately around my place participates, and tried to
look for the nearest one. Harder than it sounds, if you're not very
familiar with British geography.

So I wrote a tool to show all "related" places.

First, you need a wikipedia page that links to all the objects you are
potentially interested in. I quickly made [1].
Then, go to my new tool [2] and enter that location there. Click on the button.
Then, you get a link to a google maps page (shortened at [3]).

Which is when I realized there is potential for more. Wanna see places
important to The Beatles? Go [4]!

Enjoy!

Magnus

P.S.: I couldn't quickly figure out how to do the same for
openstreetmaps. If anyone could point me to that...

P.P.S.: Yes, using backlinks are an option as well. Is there interest in that?

[1] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/BLW
[2] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/related_places.php
[3] http://tinyurl.com/ycncg2f
[4] http://tinyurl.com/y92rgo2

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Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] The Public Domain Manifesto

See below. Is it worth us signing this as an organization? Note that  
both Asociación Civil Wikimedia Argentina and Wikimedia Nederland  
have already.

Mike

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> see http://www.publicdomainmanifesto.org/node/8
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Re: Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] The Public Domain Manifesto

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On 31 January 2010 15:13, Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net> wrote:

> See below. Is it worth us signing this as an organization? Note that
> both Asociación Civil Wikimedia Argentina and Wikimedia Nederland
> have already.

Yes.

- d.

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Re: Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] The Public Domain Manifesto

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On 31 January 2010 15:24, David Gerard <dgerard <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 January 2010 15:13, Michael Peel <email <at> mikepeel.net> wrote:
>
>> See below. Is it worth us signing this as an organization? Note that
>> both Asociación Civil Wikimedia Argentina and Wikimedia Nederland
>> have already.
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
> - d.

Sadly no. Good on idealism less good on unintended consequences:

"Contracts or technical protection measures that restrict access to
and re-use of Public Domain works must not be enforced. The Public
Domain status of a work guarantees the right to re-use, modify and
reproduce. This also includes user prerogatives arising from
exceptions and limitations, fair use and fair dealing, ensuring that
these cannot be limited by contractual or technological means."

The contractual limitations are of course unacceptable under the
principles of a common law system. More importantly the anti DRM
languages places limits on what you can do with a PD work.

"Therefore, exceptions and limitations to copyright, fair use and fair
dealing should be construed as evolutionary in nature and constantly
adapted to account for the public interest."

Basing fair use/fair dealing on the public interest strikes me as risky.

"The excessive length of copyright protection combined with an absence
of formalities is highly detrimental to the accessibility of our
shared knowledge and culture."

Implementing formalities such as registration is a great way to reduce
the effectiveness of CC licenses and the GPL.

"Any change of the scope of copyright protection must not be applied
retroactively to works already subject to protection."

This is a great way to ensure that working out even a fairly
straightforward copyright clase involves 10 minutes with a
spreadsheet.

A situation where working out how long a copyright term is involves
trying to work out which system applied when it was created is bad
enough in the US. It is not something to encourage.

"When material is deemed to fall in the structural Public Domain in
its country of origin, the material should be recognized as part of
the structural Public Domain in all other countries of the world."

Oh Zeus no. I mean yes I can understand that mexico could probably do
with the boost to it's film industry but creating a situation where
countries have an incentive to create the harshest possible copyright
terms is not advisable.

"There must be a practical and effective path to make available
'orphan works' and published works that are no longer commercially
available (such as out-of-print works) for re-use by society."

No. Any such system is very likely to have the effect of allowing the
big guys who can do proper checks with more stuff to play with while
everyone else sees no improvement.

"Personal non-commercial uses of protected works must generally be
made possible, for which alternative modes of remuneration for the
author must be explored."

Been tried. I seem to recall that India ended up deleting this term
from it's fair dealing clause because it was so hard to define. So yes
it's a nice idea but don't expect any change if it is implemented.

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