Michael Bimmler | 2 Mar 2009 15:10
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Literaturstipendien

...manchmal schaut man ja ganz gerne dem Nachbarn ab... und ich finde
folgende Idee von Wikimedia Deutschland sehr gut:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Literaturstipendium

Thoughts dazu, sollten wir das allenfalls auch in Erwägung ziehen?

Grüsse,
Michael

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Petar Marjanovic | 2 Mar 2009 15:31
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Re: Literaturstipendien

+1. gerne.

2009/3/2 Michael Bimmler <mbimmler <at> gmail.com>:
> ...manchmal schaut man ja ganz gerne dem Nachbarn ab... und ich finde
> folgende Idee von Wikimedia Deutschland sehr gut:
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Literaturstipendium
>
> Thoughts dazu, sollten wir das allenfalls auch in Erwägung ziehen?
>
> Grüsse,
> Michael
>
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Beda Gygli | 2 Mar 2009 18:04
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Re: Literaturstipendien

+1 Gute Sache, eventuell auf Schweizbezogene Themen anwenden?

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:31:29 +0100
> Von: Petar Marjanovic <petar.marjanovic <at> gmail.com>
> An: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH <wikimediach-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Wikimediach-l] Literaturstipendien

> +1. gerne.
> 
> 2009/3/2 Michael Bimmler <mbimmler <at> gmail.com>:
> > ...manchmal schaut man ja ganz gerne dem Nachbarn ab... und ich finde
> > folgende Idee von Wikimedia Deutschland sehr gut:
> >
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Literaturstipendium
> >
> > Thoughts dazu, sollten wir das allenfalls auch in Erwägung ziehen?
> >
> > Grüsse,
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> > Michael Bimmler
> > mbimmler <at> gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Michael Bimmler | 2 Mar 2009 18:11
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Re: Literaturstipendien

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Beda Gygli <beda.gygli <at> gmx.ch> wrote:
> +1 Gute Sache, eventuell auf Schweizbezogene Themen anwenden?

Good point, man könnte sich sicher ein spezifisches Stipendium für
"Helvetica" überlegen...

Daneben möchte ich aber auch nicht den Schweizer Wikipedianer, der
gerne über physikalische Themen schreibt, ausschliessen nur weil er
keinen Schweizbezug aufweisen kann ;-)

Allgemein wäre das Programm (natürlich) auf Personen mit Wohnsitz in
der Schweiz beschränkt, um Doppelspurigkeiten mit Wikimedia
Deutschlang zu vermeiden.

(Nota: Wir haben das im Vorstand noch überhaupt nicht besprochen, ich
würde gerne hier zuerst ein paar Ideen sammeln bevor ich Antrag
stelle. Also...brainstorm away ;-)

Michael

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Estermann Beat | 10 Mar 2009 14:03
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R&D Project: Online Collaboration for Elderly People


Dear Wikimedia CH - Community,

At the Bern University of Applied Science we are currently working on a project proposal which we are planning to submit in response to the current AAL Call for Proposals (European Commission: "Ambient Assisted Living"; the Call-2009-2 deals with questions related to "ICT-based solutions for the advancement of social interaction of elderly people").

 
Our project's main goal is to facilitate and to promote access of elderly and early retired people to online collaboration projects. To do so, we would like to collaborate with two types of online communities: communities particularly targeted at elderly people  and communities with a mixed target/user group (introducing elderly people in online settings which at present are dominated by a younger user base).

 
At first glance, Wikimedia would be a perfect partner for us to cover the second type of community for several reasons:

  • With its large and lively communities covering several projects, Wikimedia already has a large user base and offers a large palette of possible activities.

  • Because of their openness and large visibility, innovations implemented on Wikimedia projects can be expected to spread quickly, which would ensure maximum impact.

  • Wikimedia is used to collaborating in international settings and has different local chapters in Europe which can serve as the primary contacts for a project financed by the European Commission and which has to be carried out in several European countries in parallel.

  • Wikimedia appears to be very open with regard to innovations.

  • One of our project's aims is to boost open production by harnessing the reservoir of potentially active elderly people. Therefore, we would clearly expect Wikimedia to be on the winning side of our project.


From Nando Stöcklin I learned that Wikimedia CH is about to see some major changes in the Board and that it is therefore unlikely that the association will be able to committ itself to a large project spanning over 2-3 years by the end of April.

So I decided, as he suggested, to address you individually over the mailing list. My question therefore is: Who among the Wikimedia CH community finds the project interesting and would be ready to take an active part in it? (The exact type of the engagement would depend on the number of people ready to participate as well as on their availability and interests - or to put it in other words: it is open to negotiation).

You'll find attached a short project summary. I can give you more details about the project on request (details are evolving as the project planning goes on - so it does not make much sense to post them widely at this point).

Feel free also just to e-mail me your comments about the project. I'm curious to hear from you, and of course, I am also curious to get to know the new board members by the end of this month!

Best regards,

Beat Estermann


P.S.: Feel free to write me in French or German. Italian is ok too, but my response will be in French, English or German (just indicate your preference).


<<Project_Summary_20090304.pdf>>


_____________________________________________________

Beat Estermann
Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter

Berner Fachhochschule
Kompetenzzentrum Public Management und E-Government
Morgartenstrasse 2a
Postfach 305
CH-3000 Bern 22 

beat.estermann <at> bfh.ch
www.e-government.bfh.ch

T+41 31 848 34 30
T direkt +41 31 848 34 38
F +41 31 848 34 31


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Michael Bimmler | 10 Mar 2009 15:43
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Re: R&D Project: Online Collaboration for Elderly People

Hello,

as one of the soon retiring board members, I'd like to congratulate
you on this excellent initiative.

I do not know whether you have already know about this: Frank
Schulenburg, who was formerly a member of the board of Wikimedia
Germany and is now Head of Public Outreach with the Wikimedia
Foundation in San Francisco, has launched an initiative called
"Generation_50plus"
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Generation_50plus). Amongst
other things, it includes workshops in collaboration with the Forum
Seniorenarbeit NRW in the German state of Nordrhein-Westfalen. See
also http://www.forum-seniorenarbeit.de/index.phtml?sNavID=373.120&mNavID=373.117&&ffsm=1&ffmod=tx&object=tx|373.2201.1&La=1&FID=373.2201.1
 and http://www.forum-seniorenarbeit.de/output/La1/373.38/373.38/_/tx|373.2251.1/_/_.html

The short abstract of the project is:

"Generation 50plus ist ein Projekt mit dem Ziel, aus dem Potential
älterer Erwachsener zu schöpfen und sie dabei zu unterstützen, Inhalte
in Wikipedia einzubringen. Interessierte Mitglieder können sich aktiv
an dem Projekt beteiligen. Der erste Teil dient der Vorstellung des
Projekts und der bisherigen Vorbereitungen, dazu zählen auch
Ergebnisse einer ersten Umfrage unter Benutzern der deutschsprachigen
Wikipedia. In der anschließenden Diskussion sollen Ideen und
Anregungen ausgetauscht und, wenn möglich, konkretisiert werden."

I think it might be quite useful to contact Frank and share
experiences/notes, if you have not done so already. His email address
is fschulenburg <at> wikimedia.org

By the way: Our General Assembly takes place in March 2009, therefore
the new board should in theory be able to make a decision by end of
April on a formal commitment, especially as all board candidates are
on this mailinglist and should be able to form their provisional
opinion already now.

This said, please consider yourself very much invited to our General
Assembly on March 28th (see
http://www.wikimedia.ch/General_Assembly_2009) in Berne, where you
would also have a chance to meet with possible participants and talk
about your project during the informal lunch etc.

Best wishes and I look forward to hearing more about the project from
afar (Vancouver, for the next few months)

Michael Bimmler

2009/3/10 Estermann Beat <beat.estermann <at> bfh.ch>:
>
> Dear Wikimedia CH - Community,
>
> At the Bern University of Applied Science we are currently working on a
> project proposal which we are planning to submit in response to the current
> AAL Call for Proposals (European Commission: "Ambient Assisted Living"; the
> Call-2009-2 deals with questions related to "ICT-based solutions for the
> advancement of social interaction of elderly people").
>
>
> Our project's main goal is to facilitate and to promote access of elderly
> and early retired people to online collaboration projects. To do so, we
> would like to collaborate with two types of online communities: communities
> particularly targeted at elderly people  and communities with a mixed
> target/user group (introducing elderly people in online settings which at
> present are dominated by a younger user base).
>
>
> At first glance, Wikimedia would be a perfect partner for us to cover the
> second type of community for several reasons:
>
> With its large and lively communities covering several projects, Wikimedia
> already has a large user base and offers a large palette of possible
> activities.
> Because of their openness and large visibility, innovations implemented on
> Wikimedia projects can be expected to spread quickly, which would ensure
> maximum impact.
> Wikimedia is used to collaborating in international settings and has
> different local chapters in Europe which can serve as the primary contacts
> for a project financed by the European Commission and which has to be
> carried out in several European countries in parallel.
> Wikimedia appears to be very open with regard to innovations.
> One of our project's aims is to boost open production by harnessing the
> reservoir of potentially active elderly people. Therefore, we would clearly
> expect Wikimedia to be on the winning side of our project.
>
> From Nando Stöcklin I learned that Wikimedia CH is about to see some major
> changes in the Board and that it is therefore unlikely that the association
> will be able to committ itself to a large project spanning over 2-3 years by
> the end of April.
>
> So I decided, as he suggested, to address you individually over the mailing
> list. My question therefore is: Who among the Wikimedia CH community finds
> the project interesting and would be ready to take an active part in it?
> (The exact type of the engagement would depend on the number of people ready
> to participate as well as on their availability and interests - or to put it
> in other words: it is open to negotiation).
>
> You'll find attached a short project summary. I can give you more details
> about the project on request (details are evolving as the project planning
> goes on - so it does not make much sense to post them widely at this point).
>
> Feel free also just to e-mail me your comments about the project. I'm
> curious to hear from you, and of course, I am also curious to get to know
> the new board members by the end of this month!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Beat Estermann
>
> P.S.: Feel free to write me in French or German. Italian is ok too, but my
> response will be in French, English or German (just indicate your
> preference).
>
> <<Project_Summary_20090304.pdf>>
>
> _____________________________________________________
>
> Beat Estermann
> Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter
>
> Berner Fachhochschule
> Kompetenzzentrum Public Management und E-Government
> Morgartenstrasse 2a
> Postfach 305
> CH-3000 Bern 22
>
> beat.estermann <at> bfh.ch
> www.e-government.bfh.ch
>
> T+41 31 848 34 30
> T direkt +41 31 848 34 38
> F +41 31 848 34 31
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website
> Wikimediach-l mailing list
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
>
>

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Manuel Schneider | 10 Mar 2009 16:34
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Re: R&D Project: Online Collaboration for Elderly People

Dear Beat, hallo Beat,

I really like your project and will support that.
In the german Wikipedia there is a similar project "Generation 50plus":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Generation_50plus

With a partner like the University of Berne I am pretty sure that this is a 
very good idea. I hope other members will help.

I don't think that it is a question of the board. If members are willing - I 
am - we can realise that.

Thanks for your offer,

Manuel
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Estermann Beat | 12 Mar 2009 13:45
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Re: R&D Project: Online Collaboration for ElderlyPeople

Dear Manuel, dear list members,

Thank you, Manuel, for your encouraging e-mail! As I suggested in my previous mail to you, we will have a look
bilaterally at how you can get implicated in the elaboration of the project proposal.

I agree with you that we first of all need grassroot support for the project and I am very grateful that you
mentioned that point. On the other hand, in order to include Wikimeida CH in the proposal and to receive
funding both on behalf of Wikimedia CH and for the research institutions participating in the project, it
is important to get the association's official committment. It therefore IS a question of the board.

Best regards,

Beat Estermann

-----Original Message-----
From: wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Schneider
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2009 16:35
To: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH
Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] R&D Project: Online Collaboration for ElderlyPeople

Dear Beat, hallo Beat,

I really like your project and will support that.
In the german Wikipedia there is a similar project "Generation 50plus":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Generation_50plus

With a partner like the University of Berne I am pretty sure that this is a very good idea. I hope other members
will help.

I don't think that it is a question of the board. If members are willing - I am - we can realise that.

Thanks for your offer,

Manuel
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79585 Steinen

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Tel: +49 7627 924555
Fax: +49 7627 924557

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rupert THURNER | 15 Mar 2009 11:41
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Re: R&D Project: Online Collaboration for ElderlyPeople

hi beat,

many thanks for the proposal.

we tried to participate 2 times in a eurpoean union project, so we
know a little bit how that works (or not works ...). imo wm-ch does
not take any financial or other risk in saying yes immediately. will
propose a board vote now for that reason. additionally, our
experiences with Uni-BE up to now are excellent, they helped us a lot
already.

last time we suggested to enhance wikis with p2p technologies, to
better cope with more and more multimedia content. it failed because
we "did not consider current technologies like europeana" in a
sufficient manner. 7 months later europeana went public ... and it
broke down :) our (very) unstructured link collection is here:
http://wikimedia.ch/EuropeanUnionResearch.

if you could enter some info here: http://wikimedia.ch/Projects it
would be great.

rupert.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 13:45, Estermann Beat <beat.estermann <at> bfh.ch> wrote:
> Dear Manuel, dear list members,
>
> Thank you, Manuel, for your encouraging e-mail! As I suggested in my previous mail to you, we will have a
look bilaterally at how you can get implicated in the elaboration of the project proposal.
>
> I agree with you that we first of all need grassroot support for the project and I am very grateful that you
mentioned that point. On the other hand, in order to include Wikimeida CH in the proposal and to receive
funding both on behalf of Wikimedia CH and for the research institutions participating in the project, it
is important to get the association's official committment. It therefore IS a question of the board.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Beat Estermann
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Schneider
> Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2009 16:35
> To: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] R&D Project: Online Collaboration for ElderlyPeople
>
> Dear Beat, hallo Beat,
>
> I really like your project and will support that.
> In the german Wikipedia there is a similar project "Generation 50plus":
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Generation_50plus
>
> With a partner like the University of Berne I am pretty sure that this is a very good idea. I hope other
members will help.
>
> I don't think that it is a question of the board. If members are willing - I am - we can realise that.
>
> Thanks for your offer,
>
>
>
> Manuel
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Master's SYSTEMS Webhosting & Servermanagement Scheffelstrasse 1
> 79585 Steinen
>
> Manuel Schneider
>
> Tel: +49 7627 924555
> Fax: +49 7627 924557
>
> m.schneider <at> masterssystems.de
> http://www.masterssystems.de
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Estermann Beat | 23 Mar 2009 10:17
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Re: R&D Project: Online Collaboration forElderlyPeople

Dear Rupert,

Thanks for your message.
See answers below...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
> Of rupert THURNER
> Sent: Sonntag, 15. März 2009 11:41
> To: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] R&D Project: Online 
> Collaboration forElderlyPeople
> 
> hi beat,
> 
> many thanks for the proposal.
> 
> we tried to participate 2 times in a eurpoean union project, 
> so we know a little bit how that works (or not works ...). 
> imo wm-ch does not take any financial or other risk in saying 
> yes immediately. 

No, the risk is rather with the other project partners, as a withdrawal of Wikimedia CH later on might
compromise the project. It is my task to manage this risk. Under the present circumstances I have of course
no objection to Wikimedia CH saying "yes" to the participation in the project provisionally or subject to
conditions - as long as the provisional character of the decision and the conditions are clearly communicated.

> will propose a board vote now for that 
> reason. additionally, our experiences with Uni-BE up to now 
> are excellent, they helped us a lot already.
> 
> last time we suggested to enhance wikis with p2p 
> technologies, to better cope with more and more multimedia 
> content. it failed because we "did not consider current 
> technologies like europeana" in a sufficient manner. 7 months 
> later europeana went public ... and it broke down :) our 
> (very) unstructured link collection is here:
> http://wikimedia.ch/EuropeanUnionResearch.
> 
> if you could enter some info here: 
> http://wikimedia.ch/Projects it would be great.

I have already entered some information on the wiki page. More is to follow, as soon as things get a bit more concrete...
I will send additional information to Nando for distribution among the (future/potential) board members.

Best regards,

Beat

> 
> rupert.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 13:45, Estermann Beat 
> <beat.estermann <at> bfh.ch> wrote:
> > Dear Manuel, dear list members,
> >
> > Thank you, Manuel, for your encouraging e-mail! As I 
> suggested in my previous mail to you, we will have a look 
> bilaterally at how you can get implicated in the elaboration 
> of the project proposal.
> >
> > I agree with you that we first of all need grassroot 
> support for the project and I am very grateful that you 
> mentioned that point. On the other hand, in order to include 
> Wikimeida CH in the proposal and to receive funding both on 
> behalf of Wikimedia CH and for the research institutions 
> participating in the project, it is important to get the 
> association's official committment. It therefore IS a 
> question of the board.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Beat Estermann
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org 
> > [mailto:wikimediach-l-bounces <at> lists.wikimedia.org] On 
> Behalf Of Manuel 
> > Schneider
> > Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2009 16:35
> > To: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] R&D Project: Online Collaboration for 
> > ElderlyPeople
> >
> > Dear Beat, hallo Beat,
> >
> > I really like your project and will support that.
> > In the german Wikipedia there is a similar project 
> "Generation 50plus":
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Generation_50plus
> >
> > With a partner like the University of Berne I am pretty 
> sure that this is a very good idea. I hope other members will help.
> >
> > I don't think that it is a question of the board. If 
> members are willing - I am - we can realise that.
> >
> > Thanks for your offer,
> >
> >
> >
> > Manuel
> > --
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Master's SYSTEMS Webhosting & Servermanagement Scheffelstrasse 1
> > 79585 Steinen
> >
> > Manuel Schneider
> >
> > Tel: +49 7627 924555
> > Fax: +49 7627 924557
> >
> > m.schneider <at> masterssystems.de
> > http://www.masterssystems.de
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list 
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
> >
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> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
> >
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