Milos Rancic | 20 Apr 05:46 2014

How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

There are ~6000 languages in the world and around 3000 of them have
more than 10,000 speakers.

That approximation has some issues, but they are compensated by the
ambiguity of the opposition. Ethnologue is not the best place to find
precise data about the languages and it could count as languages just
close varieties of one language, but it also doesn't count some other
languages. Not all of the languages with 10,000 or more speakers have
positive attitude toward their languages, but there are languages with
smaller number of speakers with very positive attitude toward their
own language.

So, that number is what we could count as the realistic "final" number
of the language editions of Wikimedia projects. At the moment, we have
less than 300 language editions.

* * *

There is the question: Why should we do that? The answer is clear to
me: Because we can.

Yes, there are maybe more specific organizations which could do that,
but it's not about expertise, but about ability. Fortunately, we don't
need to search for historical examples for comparisons; the Internet
is good enough.

I still remember infographic of the time while all of us thought that
Flickr is the place for images. It turned out that the biggest
repository of images is actually Facebook, which had hundred times
more of them than the Twitpic at the second place, which, in turn, had
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Jan-Bart de Vreede | 19 Apr 11:09 2014

Agenda Board of Trustees Spring Meeting

Dear fellow members of the community,

Following is the board agenda for next weeks meeting. As usual we have tried to make room for more substance
rather than process. After a thorough consultation period the board will be discussing the amendment to
the terms of use with regards to undisclosed paid editing and we will spend a significant amount of time in
an executive session thinking about different aspects of our board and its role in different processes of
the movement. We will also be reflecting on the Wikimedia Conference 2014, where 6 board members were present.

Jan-Bart de Vreede
Wikimedia Board of Trustees

PS: As always I would ask you to discuss the agenda and other board related topics at: rather than on the
mailing list

== Thursday, April 24, 2014 ==

Executive Session
Strategy Considerations (Open Discussion)
Board Development
Chapters Dialogue
Update Transition Team

== Friday, April 25, 2014 ==
Housekeeping Items
Status update on the Annual Plan
News from AffCom and FDC
News from committees
Investment Policy
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phoebe ayers | 18 Apr 00:13 2014

10 years of wikimedia-l

Hello everyone!

So, to change the subject entirely, I just discovered that this is the 10
year anniversary of foundation-l/wikimedia-l!

Foundation-l was founded in April 2004, and was renamed to wikimedia-l two
years ago:

Foundation-l was originally an offshoot from wikipedia-l, which is where
the first discussions about policies and issues on the projects were held.
It was proposed as a separate list in order to discuss "Wikimedia-wide

Over the years, we have had debates on every subject under the sun. We've
gone through high points, hammering out constructive policies and debates,
sharing our experiences as encyclopedists and free culture enthusiasts; and
we've gone through low points, with allegations of bad behavior flying left
and right and people belaboring points beyond all reason. Sometimes --
usually, in fact -- it's both at once, in different threads. The list has
been a place to send ideas, manifestos, and information as well as a place
to discuss with others who share our passions.

We've debated the list and its place a lot over the years. We have talked
about moderation, but rarely done anything with it. We've implemented
posting limits (still in place: 30 posts/person/month); enforced posting
limits; forgotten to enforce posting limits; talked about stricter or
weaker limits. We've split sub-topic lists out; we've merged lists back
together. We've debated the cost in time and energy of each email, the
burden that being subscribed to the list means, how impossible to keep up
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Milos Rancic | 17 Apr 22:47 2014

I'm back

For those who care, I'm back.

My absence wasn't related to Wikimedia. It was about first world
problems, which hit me quite hard. I never thought that the transition
from the second to the first world problems would be painful. Few
years ago I'd have called it "decadence".

So, lesson learned.

Anyway, I thought that I would see something completely different here
and was worried a bit about my ability to adapt. But, I see that
everything is as it was. Good old heated debates. And known [virtual]
faces :D

I feel I am home again :)

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Isabella Apriyana | 17 Apr 17:55 2014

Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian Open Street Map receive ALL VOICES GRANT

Dear all,

We are happy to inform you that Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian
OpenStreetMap Team (HOT OSM) just received the news that our proposal
submitted to "Making All Voices Count" grant program was accepted. We
got £ 31,000
worth of grant to work on growing open content in Kalimantan, Indonesia.

The proposal was submitted last year and co-written by Wikimedia
(Siska Doviana, Ivonne Kristiani, John Vandenberg) and HOT OSM (Kate
Chapman and Yantisa Akhadi). We are so excited because this is our first
big collaboration project together and out of 500 proposals worldwide
(well, seven countries) only 28 received funding, and we are one of them. We
also realized that we just became internationally competitive in grant
seeking. Thank you to them, and back to work for us!

Official page from Making All Voices Count:



*Isabella Apriyana*
*Wakil Sekretaris Jendral*

*(Deputy Secretary General)Wikimedia Indonesia*
Seluler +628889752858/ +6281213700084
Surel isabella.apriyana <at>

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Russavia | 16 Apr 23:03 2014

COI editing by WMF staff

Hi all,

I just wanted to find out what the stance of the WMF is on the issue
of WMF employees and contractors editing articles on themselves, or
fellow employees, in direct contravention of COI guidelines? Is this a
practice that is officially frowned upon?

Whilst researching the Belfer fiasco I came across User:Wikitedium.
The contributions[1] lead me to believe that isn't just a normal
editor but one who has an ingrained conflict of interest, and it is
pretty clear that the editor is Zack Exley, who is the former WMF
Chief Financial Officer.

In April 2006, Exley added links to to the 2008 US
Presidential election article.[2] Whilst no longer
exists, it's archived version states: "Who's doing this?: Just me,
Zack Exley, and a couple of friends."[3]

In August 2006, Exley created the article on himself.[4] Over the
years, Exley made numerous edits to this article. In December 2009,
Exley created the article on Argentine Middle School[5], which is in
Argentine, a community of Kansas City, Kansas. Exley at the time (so
it appears) lived in Kansas City, Missouri.[6] In March 2010, Exley
wrote himself into the "Smart mob" article.[7]

In March 2013, Exley created a "nice little article about a notable
Springfield coffee shop"[8] -- the coffee shop being in Springfield,
Missouri, which is another place that Exley appears to have

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Adam Baso | 16 Apr 00:27 2014

Mobile Operator IP Drift Tracking and Remediation

I emailed mobile-l and wikitech-l about this, now I'm moving this
discussion to wikimedia-l. Here's the longer technical thread:

In summary, to show Wikipedia Zero banners for the correct mobile networks,
we are planning once for each cellular-based app session to log two pieces
of data in a specialized logfile, deleting log entries older than 90 days.

1. MCC-MNC <> code (format
is ###-##), which denotes the mobile operator
2. Exit (gateway/proxy) IP address
* These data points would not be logged alongside the normal web access

This information could be used to estimate rough demand for Wikipedia in
potential Wikipedia Zero geos, although remediating the out-of-sync IP
addresses on file for existing partners is primary.

Internal review suggests this is in alignment with privacy policy, and we
wanted to see if there were other thoughts on this approach here on

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Erik Moeller | 15 Apr 21:50 2014

Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

Hi folks,

I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the
extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work
that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a
specific goal established in a grant agreement.

This comes up from time to time. One of the few historic precedents
I'm aware of is the $5,000 donation that WMF made to FreeNode in 2006
[1]. But there are of course many other organizations/communities that
the Wikimedia movement is indebted to.

On the software side, we have Ubuntu Linux (itself highly indebted to
Debian) / Apache / MariaDB / PHP / Varnish / ElasticSearch / memcached
/ Puppet / OpenStack / various libraries and many other dependencies [2],
infrastructure tools like ganglia, observium, icinga, etc. Some of
these projects have nonprofits that accept and seek sponsorship and
support, some don't.

One could easily expand well beyond the software we depend on
server-side to client-side open source applications used by our
community to create content: stuff like Inkscape, GIMP and LibreOffice
(used for diagrams). And there are other communities we depend on,
like OpenStreetMap.

So, should we steer clear of this type of sponsorship altogether
because it's a slippery slope, or should we try to come up with
evaluation criteria to consider it on a case-by-case basis (e.g. is
there a trustworthy non-profit that has a track record of
accomplishment and is in actual need of financial support)?
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Caitlin Cogdill | 15 Apr 19:59 2014

Introducing the newly redesigned WMF Shop


We are pleased to announce the Wikimedia Shop[1] has undergone a redesign
as of this afternoon. One of the shop's primary priorities for 2014 was to
make it more visually appealing and user friendly. It is our hope that
these changes will enable us to increase sales so that we can support more
community events through merchandise giveaways.

Thus far in 2014, the shop has supported chapters and community groups in
Thailand, Ghana, and Indonesia, and will be supporting a Wikipedia Zero
event in Bangladesh later this year. Our team has also reinvigorated the
Merchandise Giveaways Program [2], sending shirts to nominated users on a
weekly basis. We want our merchandise to help bring even more people to
Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects, and make currently involved community
members feel good about their work.

The shop redesign also marks the release of a new product: the limited
edition Wiki Loves Monuments Calendar[3]. While we are already a few months
into 2014, the quality of the images and work put in by Wikimedians was
reason enough to produce these calendars, but buy them while you can as
there is a very limited quantity! We look forward to displaying more
Wikimedia artifacts like this one in the future.

Please give us your comments on the new site design and help us continue to
improve the way we represent Wikimedia through discussion on the Wikimedia
Merchandise talk page[4], or feel free to contact me directly.

Thank you!

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Cornelius Kibelka | 15 Apr 19:12 2014

Documentation of the Wikimedia Conference 2014

Hi Wikimedians,

on behalf of the Documentation Team of the Wikimedia Conference 2014 I'm
happy to announce that we published all the minutes and photos of all
sessions, as far as they were available and ready. Check them out on https

We tried to summarise the sessions ("too long, didn't read"). However,
sometimes this was not possible due to the most different opinions.
Furthermore, you find most of the presentation slides and photos of the
Conference on Wikimedia Commons (

Any comments, any questions, drop me a line.

Best regards

on behalf of the Documentation Team of the conference
(Benjamin, Conny, Lukas and Cornelius)
Cornelius Kibelka
Twitter:  <at> jaancornelius
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Russavia | 15 Apr 18:27 2014

Wiki Education Foundation website

I came across this press release today on the Wiki Education Foundation,[1]
which announces that the WEF is getting $1.39 million from the Stanton

When I went to the WEF's website,[2] I must say I was disappointed that the
website isn't developed at all, although there is a link to basic
information on Meta. And going to the "About" page,[3] my first thought was
"Ahhh Lorem ipsum, we meetum againem".

I must also say that the photos stood out; a "Foundation" which has
education as its mission, and the imagery that the WEF is putting its name
to is people schmoozing, drinking and gambling in a Las Vegas casino.
Probably not the sort of image you want to portray to people so early on.

It also struck me as odd that the WEF would already have a Flickr account,
and upon looking it appears the WEF has no Flickr account, but rather the
photos are from a set[4] belonging to, and where they are
evidently marked "© All Rights Reserved".[5] Are these images used with
permission of WHIR? Even if so, it doesn't look good that the WEF is using
ARR imagery when Commons is home to almost 21 million freely licenced
images that could be used, and probably be more appropriate to illustrate
your mission.

I look forward to seeing a properly developed WEF website, with hopefully
appropriate freely licenced content, in the near future.



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