Sean Whitton | 5 Nov 2007 23:03
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A new system for ComProj? (please read and comment)

Hello all,

Firstly, this e-mail is not directives or commands or anything like
that, but I am throwing lots of ideas around in the hope that they
will bounce off some of you. I am thinking that due to a lack of other
issues the following could also be discussed exclusively at
Wednesday's meeting, so it would be good if as many of our members
could attend as possible for this reason as this is pretty important.

I think most of us will admit that right now ComProj is not doing a
lot. I think that there are a number of reasons for this, which I will
try to outline.
1) Lack of work
In general, we are not being given enough things to do. Those that we
do get end up being an individual thing between someone and a ComProj
member which is not ideal as it would be better to work more as a
group.
2) Lack of participation
We don't actually have that many active members right now. We could do
with recruiting more or we can't get done what we intend to.
3) Lack of motivation
I don't think people are interested in the projects we have. This
means nothing gets done. There is no expectation that members should
do things they are not interested in in this group (perhaps this is so
for the ComCom, but not ComProj which should be enjoyable in all
aspects)

So how do we solve this? I think that we need to make some fundamental
decisions, as a group, about how we want ComProj to work. Do we need
to formalise, bring in membership requirements (i.e. doing work, not
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Michael Reschke | 6 Nov 2007 02:04

Re: A new system for ComProj? (please read and comment)

Hi,

short answer: Lack of time

I'm interested in working for Wikiversity, because of this, I joined the ComProj-Group. At the moment - lack of time - I do not much at the German Wikiversity-project "Spread Wikiversity". But in order to support the Wikiversities and our ComProj-Group I created some banners and so on. Look here:

http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Werbebanner
http://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversit%C3%A9:Banni%C3%A8res_et_boutons
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Banners_and_buttons

If there's anything to do in Germany (I'm from Germany) so contact me by mail. At the moment I haven't much freetime, but what I can do, I will do... (Hoping this won't be much for the next few months.)

Yours Michael from Germany



2007/11/5, Sean Whitton <sean-7tLCKR/gN8w4v9JKDFUDcw@public.gmane.org>:
Hello all,

Firstly, this e-mail is not directives or commands or anything like
that, but I am throwing lots of ideas around in the hope that they
will bounce off some of you. I am thinking that due to a lack of other
issues the following could also be discussed exclusively at
Wednesday's meeting, so it would be good if as many of our members
could attend as possible for this reason as this is pretty important.

I think most of us will admit that right now ComProj is not doing a
lot. I think that there are a number of reasons for this, which I will
try to outline.
1) Lack of work
In general, we are not being given enough things to do. Those that we
do get end up being an individual thing between someone and a ComProj
member which is not ideal as it would be better to work more as a
group.
2) Lack of participation
We don't actually have that many active members right now. We could do
with recruiting more or we can't get done what we intend to.
3) Lack of motivation
I don't think people are interested in the projects we have. This
means nothing gets done. There is no expectation that members should
do things they are not interested in in this group (perhaps this is so
for the ComCom, but not ComProj which should be enjoyable in all
aspects)

So how do we solve this? I think that we need to make some fundamental
decisions, as a group, about how we want ComProj to work. Do we need
to formalise, bring in membership requirements (i.e. doing work, not
that people should be qualified to join initially), or do we need to
stop worrying about set projects and simply have a pool of people to
access via the mailing list.

Unsurprisingly, since I am chair and we are in this situation, I am
stumped. Ideas welcome.

Thanks,

Sean

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Thunderhead | 6 Nov 2007 06:00
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Re: A new system for ComProj? (please read and comment)

I want to apologize to the ComProj group, since
I have been quite inactive lately due to my heavy involvement
with extracurricular activites. I may be able to make the AU/NZ
meetings, however the regular 4:00 meetings I cannot.

--
Thunderhead
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead

_______________________________________________ 
DISCLAIMER: I hold no official position in the Wikimedia
Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single
Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.

---- Sean Whitton <sean@...> wrote: 
> Hello all,
> 
> Firstly, this e-mail is not directives or commands or anything like
> that, but I am throwing lots of ideas around in the hope that they
> will bounce off some of you. I am thinking that due to a lack of other
> issues the following could also be discussed exclusively at
> Wednesday's meeting, so it would be good if as many of our members
> could attend as possible for this reason as this is pretty important.
> 
> I think most of us will admit that right now ComProj is not doing a
> lot. I think that there are a number of reasons for this, which I will
> try to outline.
> 1) Lack of work
> In general, we are not being given enough things to do. Those that we
> do get end up being an individual thing between someone and a ComProj
> member which is not ideal as it would be better to work more as a
> group.
> 2) Lack of participation
> We don't actually have that many active members right now. We could do
> with recruiting more or we can't get done what we intend to.
> 3) Lack of motivation
> I don't think people are interested in the projects we have. This
> means nothing gets done. There is no expectation that members should
> do things they are not interested in in this group (perhaps this is so
> for the ComCom, but not ComProj which should be enjoyable in all
> aspects)
> 
> So how do we solve this? I think that we need to make some fundamental
> decisions, as a group, about how we want ComProj to work. Do we need
> to formalise, bring in membership requirements (i.e. doing work, not
> that people should be qualified to join initially), or do we need to
> stop worrying about set projects and simply have a pool of people to
> access via the mailing list.
> 
> Unsurprisingly, since I am chair and we are in this situation, I am
> stumped. Ideas welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sean
> 
> _______________________________________________
> ComProj mailing list
> ComProj@...
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj

Sean Whitton | 6 Nov 2007 10:49
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Fwd: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation

Hello all,

The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
participate in the planning for this event at
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_Wikipedia_Week>.

Thanks,

Sean

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sue Gardner <sgardner@...>
Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
subscription)" <internal-l@...>

Hi folks,

I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea is
to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
events around the world designed to encourage people to participate in
the projects.

The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on TV;
talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make a
contribution.

This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
participate.

Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep the
media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
Academies coming up in South Africa
http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 10
and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.

This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and best
known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of "There
are different ways to help Wikipedia..").

I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please to
translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) by
helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.

The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think December
3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
another week would be better.

And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In that
spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would be
okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
will be better :-)

Thanks,
Sue
symode09 | 6 Nov 2007 11:12
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WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

Hey everyone! I have begun working on the census and have a section on most 
projects where I would like questions to be put up. I am working on the 
coding/layout of it all so, take a look at the preview at 
http://loopaustralia.com/survey/index.php?sid=54369&lang=en - it may not 
work for everyone since it has not been published but, you can have a very 
rough idea about how it looks. It will slowly evolve so, keep checking back. 
There is a section on each project in the same location on each;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Census
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Census
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Census
etc.

We need help to work out how we could get users to fill it out, by the name, 
a census is meant to be filled out by the entire community but, emailing out 
to 5 million+ users would be a world record spamming (c) brianmc

Any ideas on how we could do it?

thanx

symode09 + brown_cat + itunes

---------------------------------------------
From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:49 PM
To: "ComProj" <comproj@...>
Subject: [ComProj] Fwd: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call 
forparticipation

> Hello all,
>
> The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
> 'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
> keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
> participate in the planning for this event at
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_Wikipedia_Week>.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sue Gardner <sgardner@...>
> Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
> Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
> subscription)" <internal-l@...>
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
> stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea is
> to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
> events around the world designed to encourage people to participate in
> the projects.
>
> The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
> speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on TV;
> talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
> organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
> help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
> edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
> is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make a
> contribution.
>
> This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
> organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
> form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
> participate.
>
> Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
> which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
> long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep the
> media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
> Academies coming up in South Africa
> http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 10
> and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
> Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.
>
> This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and best
> known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
> the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
> similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
> project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
> edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
> Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
> fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of "There
> are different ways to help Wikipedia..").
>
> I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
> can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please to
> translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
> everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
> fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) by
> helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.
>
> The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think December
> 3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
> another week would be better.
>
> And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In that
> spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would be
> okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
> will be better :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Sue
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-l mailing list
> Internal-l@...
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> ComProj mailing list
> ComProj@...
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
> 

Sean Whitton | 6 Nov 2007 11:22
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Re: WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

Symode,

Your use of the Wikimedia logo on your pages is questionable as they
are not official. Have you considered getting a [[m:toolserver]]
account to run this survey off? That would probably be a more
appropriate option.

Thanks,

Sean

On 11/6/07, symode09@...
<symode09@...> wrote:
> Hey everyone! I have begun working on the census and have a section on most
> projects where I would like questions to be put up. I am working on the
> coding/layout of it all so, take a look at the preview at
> http://loopaustralia.com/survey/index.php?sid=54369&lang=en - it may not
> work for everyone since it has not been published but, you can have a very
> rough idea about how it looks. It will slowly evolve so, keep checking back.
> There is a section on each project in the same location on each;
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Census
> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Census
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Census
> etc.
>
> We need help to work out how we could get users to fill it out, by the name,
> a census is meant to be filled out by the entire community but, emailing out
> to 5 million+ users would be a world record spamming (c) brianmc
>
> Any ideas on how we could do it?
>
> thanx
>
>
> symode09 + brown_cat + itunes
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:49 PM
> To: "ComProj" <comproj@...>
> Subject: [ComProj] Fwd: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call
> forparticipation
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
> > 'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
> > keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
> > participate in the planning for this event at
> > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_Wikipedia_Week>.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Sue Gardner <sgardner@...>
> > Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
> > Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
> > To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
> > subscription)" <internal-l@...>
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
> > stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea is
> > to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
> > events around the world designed to encourage people to participate in
> > the projects.
> >
> > The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
> > speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on TV;
> > talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
> > organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
> > help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
> > edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
> > is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make a
> > contribution.
> >
> > This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
> > organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
> > form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
> > participate.
> >
> > Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
> > which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
> > long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep the
> > media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
> > Academies coming up in South Africa
> > http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 10
> > and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
> > Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.
> >
> > This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and best
> > known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
> > the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
> > similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
> > project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
> > edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
> > Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
> > fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of "There
> > are different ways to help Wikipedia..").
> >
> > I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
> > can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please to
> > translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
> > everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
> > fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) by
> > helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.
> >
> > The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think December
> > 3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
> > another week would be better.
> >
> > And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In that
> > spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would be
> > okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
> > will be better :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Internal-l mailing list
> > Internal-l@...
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ComProj mailing list
> > ComProj@...
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> ComProj mailing list
> ComProj@...
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
>

symode09 | 6 Nov 2007 11:19
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Re: WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

I have a toolserv account however, it was a bitch (srry bout language) 
uploading it and, I recieved NO help - I attempted to get help for over a 
month and, asked everywhere, my conclusion: people on the toolserv are 
generally douchebags

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:22 PM
To: "Discussion list for the Communication Projects Group" 
<comproj@...>
Subject: Re: [ComProj] WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

> Symode,
>
> Your use of the Wikimedia logo on your pages is questionable as they
> are not official. Have you considered getting a [[m:toolserver]]
> account to run this survey off? That would probably be a more
> appropriate option.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
> On 11/6/07, symode09@...
<symode09@...> wrote:
>> Hey everyone! I have begun working on the census and have a section on 
>> most
>> projects where I would like questions to be put up. I am working on the
>> coding/layout of it all so, take a look at the preview at
>> http://loopaustralia.com/survey/index.php?sid=54369&lang=en - it may not
>> work for everyone since it has not been published but, you can have a 
>> very
>> rough idea about how it looks. It will slowly evolve so, keep checking 
>> back.
>> There is a section on each project in the same location on each;
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Census
>> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Census
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Census
>> etc.
>>
>> We need help to work out how we could get users to fill it out, by the 
>> name,
>> a census is meant to be filled out by the entire community but, emailing 
>> out
>> to 5 million+ users would be a world record spamming (c) brianmc
>>
>> Any ideas on how we could do it?
>>
>> thanx
>>
>>
>> symode09 + brown_cat + itunes
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:49 PM
>> To: "ComProj" <comproj@...>
>> Subject: [ComProj] Fwd: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call
>> forparticipation
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
>> > 'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
>> > keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
>> > participate in the planning for this event at
>> > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_Wikipedia_Week>.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Sean
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Sue Gardner <sgardner@...>
>> > Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
>> > Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
>> > To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
>> > subscription)" <internal-l@...>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
>> > stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea is
>> > to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
>> > events around the world designed to encourage people to participate in
>> > the projects.
>> >
>> > The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
>> > speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on TV;
>> > talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
>> > organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
>> > help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
>> > edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
>> > is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make a
>> > contribution.
>> >
>> > This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
>> > organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
>> > form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
>> > participate.
>> >
>> > Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
>> > which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
>> > long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep the
>> > media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
>> > Academies coming up in South Africa
>> > http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 10
>> > and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
>> > Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.
>> >
>> > This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and best
>> > known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
>> > the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
>> > similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
>> > project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
>> > edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
>> > Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
>> > fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of "There
>> > are different ways to help Wikipedia..").
>> >
>> > I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
>> > can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please to
>> > translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
>> > everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
>> > fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) by
>> > helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.
>> >
>> > The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think December
>> > 3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
>> > another week would be better.
>> >
>> > And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In that
>> > spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would be
>> > okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
>> > will be better :-)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sue
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Internal-l mailing list
>> > Internal-l@...
>> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > ComProj mailing list
>> > ComProj@...
>> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ComProj mailing list
>> ComProj@...
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Sean Whitton | 6 Nov 2007 11:29
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Re: WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

Symode,

I think it could be done with a little patience :-)

I suggest you try getting an SFTP client working then you can upload
really quickly. Try FileZilla.

Sean

On 11/6/07, symode09@...
<symode09@...> wrote:
> I have a toolserv account however, it was a bitch (srry bout language)
> uploading it and, I recieved NO help - I attempted to get help for over a
> month and, asked everywhere, my conclusion: people on the toolserv are
> generally douchebags
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:22 PM
> To: "Discussion list for the Communication Projects Group"
> <comproj@...>
> Subject: Re: [ComProj] WIKIMEDIA CENSUS
>
> > Symode,
> >
> > Your use of the Wikimedia logo on your pages is questionable as they
> > are not official. Have you considered getting a [[m:toolserver]]
> > account to run this survey off? That would probably be a more
> > appropriate option.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > On 11/6/07, symode09@...
<symode09@...> wrote:
> >> Hey everyone! I have begun working on the census and have a section on
> >> most
> >> projects where I would like questions to be put up. I am working on the
> >> coding/layout of it all so, take a look at the preview at
> >> http://loopaustralia.com/survey/index.php?sid=54369&lang=en - it may not
> >> work for everyone since it has not been published but, you can have a
> >> very
> >> rough idea about how it looks. It will slowly evolve so, keep checking
> >> back.
> >> There is a section on each project in the same location on each;
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Census
> >> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Census
> >> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Census
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> We need help to work out how we could get users to fill it out, by the
> >> name,
> >> a census is meant to be filled out by the entire community but, emailing
> >> out
> >> to 5 million+ users would be a world record spamming (c) brianmc
> >>
> >> Any ideas on how we could do it?
> >>
> >> thanx
> >>
> >>
> >> symode09 + brown_cat + itunes
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:49 PM
> >> To: "ComProj" <comproj@...>
> >> Subject: [ComProj] Fwd: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call
> >> forparticipation
> >>
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
> >> > 'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
> >> > keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
> >> > participate in the planning for this event at
> >> > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_Wikipedia_Week>.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Sean
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: Sue Gardner <sgardner@...>
> >> > Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
> >> > Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
> >> > To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
> >> > subscription)" <internal-l@...>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi folks,
> >> >
> >> > I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
> >> > stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea is
> >> > to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
> >> > events around the world designed to encourage people to participate in
> >> > the projects.
> >> >
> >> > The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
> >> > speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on TV;
> >> > talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
> >> > organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
> >> > help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
> >> > edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
> >> > is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make a
> >> > contribution.
> >> >
> >> > This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
> >> > organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
> >> > form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
> >> > participate.
> >> >
> >> > Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
> >> > which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
> >> > long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep the
> >> > media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
> >> > Academies coming up in South Africa
> >> > http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 10
> >> > and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
> >> > Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.
> >> >
> >> > This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and best
> >> > known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
> >> > the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
> >> > similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
> >> > project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
> >> > edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
> >> > Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
> >> > fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of "There
> >> > are different ways to help Wikipedia..").
> >> >
> >> > I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
> >> > can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please to
> >> > translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
> >> > everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
> >> > fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) by
> >> > helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.
> >> >
> >> > The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think December
> >> > 3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
> >> > another week would be better.
> >> >
> >> > And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In that
> >> > spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would be
> >> > okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
> >> > will be better :-)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Sue
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Internal-l mailing list
> >> > Internal-l@...
> >> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > ComProj mailing list
> >> > ComProj@...
> >> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ComProj mailing list
> >> ComProj@...
> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > ComProj@...
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
> >
>
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Jennifer Gristock | 6 Nov 2007 12:04
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Re: A new system for ComProj? (please read and comment)


Hello Sean,

I do have enough time to do tasks, but I dont have enough time to read all 
the round-robin emails to keep up with what is going on. When hardly anyone 
turned up to my last two meetings, I felt it wasn't a very good use of my 
time. I'm afraid I dont have a suggestion about what to do for everyone, 
but I am more than happy to help with tasks in my specialist areas 
(academia, journalism) if someone can give me a direct prod.
Hope that helps
Jen

--On 06 November 2007 02:04 +0100 Michael Reschke 
<reschke.michael@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> short answer: Lack of time
>
> I'm interested in working for Wikiversity, because of this, I joined the
> ComProj-Group. At the moment - lack of time - I do not much at the German
> Wikiversity-project "Spread Wikiversity". But in order to support the
> Wikiversities and our ComProj-Group I created some banners and so on.
> Look here:
>
> http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Werbebanner
> http://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversit%C3%A9:Banni%C3%A8res_et_boutons
> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Banners_and_buttons
>
> If there's anything to do in Germany (I'm from Germany) so contact me by
> mail. At the moment I haven't much freetime, but what I can do, I will
> do... (Hoping this won't be much for the next few months.)
>
> Yours Michael from Germany
>
>
>
>
> 2007/11/5, Sean Whitton <sean@...>:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Firstly, this e-mail is not directives or commands or anything like
> that, but I am throwing lots of ideas around in the hope that they
> will bounce off some of you. I am thinking that due to a lack of other
> issues the following could also be discussed exclusively at
> Wednesday's meeting, so it would be good if as many of our members
> could attend as possible for this reason as this is pretty important.
>
> I think most of us will admit that right now ComProj is not doing a
> lot. I think that there are a number of reasons for this, which I will
> try to outline.
> 1) Lack of work
> In general, we are not being given enough things to do. Those that we
> do get end up being an individual thing between someone and a ComProj
> member which is not ideal as it would be better to work more as a
> group.
> 2) Lack of participation
> We don't actually have that many active members right now. We could do
> with recruiting more or we can't get done what we intend to.
> 3) Lack of motivation
> I don't think people are interested in the projects we have. This
> means nothing gets done. There is no expectation that members should
> do things they are not interested in in this group (perhaps this is so
> for the ComCom, but not ComProj which should be enjoyable in all
> aspects)
>
> So how do we solve this? I think that we need to make some fundamental
> decisions, as a group, about how we want ComProj to work. Do we need
> to formalise, bring in membership requirements (i.e. doing work, not
> that people should be qualified to join initially), or do we need to
> stop worrying about set projects and simply have a pool of people to
> access via the mailing list.
>
> Unsurprisingly, since I am chair and we are in this situation, I am
> stumped. Ideas welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
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>
>

symode09 | 6 Nov 2007 12:05
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Re: WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

I have been very patient and have gone insane. Is there a SFTP client with a 
gui rather then having to type files?
 thanx

symode09 +itunes

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:29 PM
To: "Discussion list for the Communication Projects Group" 
<comproj@...>
Subject: Re: [ComProj] WIKIMEDIA CENSUS

> Symode,
>
> I think it could be done with a little patience :-)
>
> I suggest you try getting an SFTP client working then you can upload
> really quickly. Try FileZilla.
>
> Sean
>
> On 11/6/07, symode09@...
<symode09@...> wrote:
>> I have a toolserv account however, it was a bitch (srry bout language)
>> uploading it and, I recieved NO help - I attempted to get help for over a
>> month and, asked everywhere, my conclusion: people on the toolserv are
>> generally douchebags
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:22 PM
>> To: "Discussion list for the Communication Projects Group"
>> <comproj@...>
>> Subject: Re: [ComProj] WIKIMEDIA CENSUS
>>
>> > Symode,
>> >
>> > Your use of the Wikimedia logo on your pages is questionable as they
>> > are not official. Have you considered getting a [[m:toolserver]]
>> > account to run this survey off? That would probably be a more
>> > appropriate option.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Sean
>> >
>> > On 11/6/07, symode09@...
<symode09@...> wrote:
>> >> Hey everyone! I have begun working on the census and have a section on
>> >> most
>> >> projects where I would like questions to be put up. I am working on 
>> >> the
>> >> coding/layout of it all so, take a look at the preview at
>> >> http://loopaustralia.com/survey/index.php?sid=54369&lang=en - it may 
>> >> not
>> >> work for everyone since it has not been published but, you can have a
>> >> very
>> >> rough idea about how it looks. It will slowly evolve so, keep checking
>> >> back.
>> >> There is a section on each project in the same location on each;
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Census
>> >> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Census
>> >> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Census
>> >> etc.
>> >>
>> >> We need help to work out how we could get users to fill it out, by the
>> >> name,
>> >> a census is meant to be filled out by the entire community but, 
>> >> emailing
>> >> out
>> >> to 5 million+ users would be a world record spamming (c) brianmc
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas on how we could do it?
>> >>
>> >> thanx
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> symode09 + brown_cat + itunes
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------
>> >> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean@...>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:49 PM
>> >> To: "ComProj" <comproj@...>
>> >> Subject: [ComProj] Fwd: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call
>> >> forparticipation
>> >>
>> >> > Hello all,
>> >> >
>> >> > The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
>> >> > 'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
>> >> > keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
>> >> > participate in the planning for this event at
>> >> > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_Wikipedia_Week>.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Sean
>> >> >
>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> > From: Sue Gardner <sgardner@...>
>> >> > Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
>> >> > Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
>> >> > To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
>> >> > subscription)" <internal-l@...>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi folks,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
>> >> > stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea 
>> >> > is
>> >> > to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
>> >> > events around the world designed to encourage people to participate 
>> >> > in
>> >> > the projects.
>> >> >
>> >> > The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
>> >> > speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on 
>> >> > TV;
>> >> > talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
>> >> > organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
>> >> > help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
>> >> > edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
>> >> > is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make 
>> >> > a
>> >> > contribution.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
>> >> > organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
>> >> > form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
>> >> > participate.
>> >> >
>> >> > Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
>> >> > which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
>> >> > long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep 
>> >> > the
>> >> > media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
>> >> > Academies coming up in South Africa
>> >> > http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 
>> >> > 10
>> >> > and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
>> >> > Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.
>> >> >
>> >> > This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and 
>> >> > best
>> >> > known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
>> >> > the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
>> >> > similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
>> >> > project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
>> >> > edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
>> >> > Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
>> >> > fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of 
>> >> > "There
>> >> > are different ways to help Wikipedia..").
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
>> >> > can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please 
>> >> > to
>> >> > translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
>> >> > everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
>> >> > fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) 
>> >> > by
>> >> > helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.
>> >> >
>> >> > The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think 
>> >> > December
>> >> > 3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
>> >> > another week would be better.
>> >> >
>> >> > And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In 
>> >> > that
>> >> > spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would 
>> >> > be
>> >> > okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
>> >> > will be better :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Sue
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Internal-l mailing list
>> >> > Internal-l@...
>> >> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > ComProj mailing list
>> >> > ComProj@...
>> >> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> ComProj mailing list
>> >> ComProj@...
>> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > ComProj mailing list
>> > ComProj@...
>> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ComProj mailing list
>> ComProj@...
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/comproj
>>
>
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