http://www.flickr.com/people/brooklyn_museum/ Which license tag should we use for those? PD-old? Regards, Flo -- -- Experience is not what happens to you. It is what you do with what happens to you. - Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)
2008/6/1 Florian Straub <flominator@...>: > http://www.flickr.com/people/brooklyn_museum/ > > Which license tag should we use for those? PD-old? No, unless its * reproduction of old photo with expired copyright (PD-old) * reproduction of old painting (PD-art) Otherwise, these images are licensed with CC-BY-NC-ND license, which is not allowed on Commons. -- -- Wikipedysta:A.J.
2008/6/2 Ejdzej Wikipedysta <ejdzej.wikipedysta@...>: > 2008/6/1 Florian Straub <flominator@...>: >> http://www.flickr.com/people/brooklyn_museum/ >> >> Which license tag should we use for those? PD-old? > > No, unless its > * reproduction of old photo with expired copyright (PD-old) > * reproduction of old painting (PD-art) Oh, wait... they taged it with "no known copyright restrictions". This seems to be nice, but please read: http://www.flickr.com/commons/usage/ 1. The copyright is in the public domain because it has expired; 2. The copyright was injected into the public domain for other reasons, such as failure to adhere to required formalities or conditions; 3. The institution owns the copyright but is not interested in exercising control; or 4. The institution has legal rights sufficient to authorize others to use the work without restrictions. My view is: 1. PD-Old 2. PD-because? 3. PD-not-really-PD ;) -- DANGER 4. CopyrightedFreeUse?(Continue reading)
I think it depends on the image. For example, we can declare http://www.flickr.com/photos/brooklyn_museum/2488876755/ to be PD-US (pre-1923).
2008/6/2 Ejdzej Wikipedysta <ejdzej.wikipedysta-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> 2008/6/1 Florian Straub <flominator-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>:Oh, wait... they taged it with "no known copyright restrictions".
>> http://www.flickr.com/people/brooklyn_museum/
>>
>> Which license tag should we use for those? PD-old?
>
> No, unless its
> * reproduction of old photo with expired copyright (PD-old)
> * reproduction of old painting (PD-art)
This seems to be nice, but please read:
http://www.flickr.com/commons/usage/
1. The copyright is in the public domain because it has expired;
2. The copyright was injected into the public domain for other
reasons, such as failure to adhere to required formalities or
conditions;
3. The institution owns the copyright but is not interested in
exercising control; or
4. The institution has legal rights sufficient to authorize others
to use the work without restrictions.
My view is:
1. PD-Old
2. PD-because?
3. PD-not-really-PD ;) -- DANGER
4. CopyrightedFreeUse?
More troublesome than chossing copyright tag is that "participating
institutions" do not precise why there are "no known restrictions" and
wash their hands with disclaimer: "IF YOU MAKE USE OF A PHOTO (...)
YOU ARE REMINDED TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS OF APPLICABLE LAW
BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH A PARTICULAR NEW USE"
--
Wikipedysta:A.J.
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This comes up every now and then, but now it is finally possible to make Global Groups. This means that if there is Wikimedia wide consensus for it, the stewards could create a user groups, in which a SULed user can be added so that they can view deleted edits on any project. Needless to say this would be incredibly useful for Commons admins who need to review crosswiki file uploads. Any opinions on this and how to get the unnecessary consensus on this? Bryan
Bryan Tong Minh wrote: | This comes up every now and then, but now it is finally possible to | make Global Groups. This means that if there is Wikimedia wide | consensus for it, the stewards could create a user groups, in which a | SULed user can be added so that they can view deleted edits on any | project. Needless to say this would be incredibly useful for Commons | admins who need to review crosswiki file uploads. | | Any opinions on this and how to get the unnecessary consensus on this? | | Bryan | Topic should be brought up on metawiki. -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running! Support the Wikimedia Foundation today: http://donate.wikimedia.org Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Phone: 415.839.6885 Fax: 415.882.0495 E-Mail: cary@...
> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:15:34 -0700 > From: Cary Bass <cbass@...> > Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Commons admins should be able to view deleted > images Wikimedia wide > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l@...> > Message-ID: <484454E6.5030702@...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Bryan Tong Minh wrote: > | This comes up every now and then, but now it is finally possible to > | make Global Groups. This means that if there is Wikimedia wide > | consensus for it, the stewards could create a user groups, in which a > | SULed user can be added so that they can view deleted edits on any > | project. Needless to say this would be incredibly useful for Commons > | admins who need to review crosswiki file uploads. > | > | Any opinions on this and how to get the unnecessary consensus on this? > | > | Bryan > | > > Topic should be brought up on metawiki. > > - -- > Cary Bass > Volunteer Coordinator I have mentioned how important this thought is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stewards_policy#Changing_rights_in_own_wiki.3F and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_help_from_local_Wiki_sysops_or_bureaucrats_with_language_barriers to express that current situation has unnecessary bureaucracy and delay. Further discussion should be made on Meta, but suggesting a specific page these is appreciated. Jusjih Admin on 11 Wiki sites and WMF steward
Howard Cheng <howard@...> wrote on mon, 2 jun 2008 11:53:12 -0700: > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Ejdzej Wikipedysta > > <ejdzej.wikipedysta@... <mailto:ejdzej.wikipedysta@...>> wrote: > > > > 2008/6/2 Ejdzej Wikipedysta <ejdzej.wikipedysta@... > > <mailto:ejdzej.wikipedysta@...>>: > > > 2008/6/1 Florian Straub <flominator@... > > <mailto:flominator@...>>: > > >> http://www.flickr.com/people/brooklyn_museum/ > > >> > > >> Which license tag should we use for those? PD-old? > > > > > > No, unless its > > > * reproduction of old photo with expired copyright (PD-old) > > > * reproduction of old painting (PD-art) > > > > Oh, wait... they taged it with "no known copyright restrictions". > > > > This seems to be nice, but please read: > > http://www.flickr.com/commons/usage/ > > > > 1. The copyright is in the public domain because it has expired; > > 2. The copyright was injected into the public domain for other > > reasons, such as failure to adhere to required formalities or > > conditions; > > 3. The institution owns the copyright but is not interested in > > exercising control; or > > 4. The institution has legal rights sufficient to authorize others > > to use the work without restrictions. > > > > My view is: > > > > 1. PD-Old > > 2. PD-because? > > 3. PD-not-really-PD ;) -- DANGER > > 4. CopyrightedFreeUse? > > > > More troublesome than chossing copyright tag is that "participating > > institutions" do not precise why there are "no known restrictions" and > > wash their hands with disclaimer: "IF YOU MAKE USE OF A PHOTO (...) > > YOU ARE REMINDED TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS OF APPLICABLE LAW > > BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH A PARTICULAR NEW USE" > I think it depends on the image. For example, we can > declare http://www.flickr.com/photos/brooklyn_museum/2488876755/ to be > PD-US (pre-1923). Since I'm trying to find a solution for Flinfo (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Flinfo) which cannot choose things based on the picture. I think I will stick to PD-because with "Brooklyn Museum tagged it as no known copyright restrictions on Flickr". Any objections? Regards, Flo -- -- Education is the most powerful weapon you can use to change the world. - Nelson Mandela (* 1918)
2008/6/5 Florian Straub <flominator@...>: > Since I'm trying to find a solution for Flinfo > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Flinfo) which cannot > choose things based on the picture. I think I will stick to PD-because > with "Brooklyn Museum tagged it as no known copyright restrictions on > Flickr". Any objections? Arg... We should try to discourage use of PD-because, not make it part of an automated process! At least make a custom PD-Flickr-BrooklynMuseum tag or something, so they can be easily distinguished.... cheers Brianna -- -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/
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> Bryan Tong Minh wrote:
> | This comes up every now and then, but now it is finally possible to
> | make Global Groups. This means that if there is Wikimedia wide
> | consensus for it, the stewards could create a user groups, in which a
> | SULed user can be added so that they can view deleted edits on any
> | project. Needless to say this would be incredibly useful for Commons
> | admins who need to review crosswiki file uploads.
> |
> | Any opinions on this and how to get the unnecessary consensus on this?
> |
> | Bryan
> |
>
> Topic should be brought up on metawiki.
>
> - --
> Cary Bass
> Volunteer Coordinator
I have mentioned how important this thought is at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stewards_policy#Changing_rights_in_own_wiki.3F
and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_help_from_local_Wiki_sysops_or_bureaucrats_with_language_barriers
to express that current situation has unnecessary bureaucracy and
delay. Further discussion should be made on Meta, but suggesting a
specific page these is appreciated.
Jusjih
Admin on 11 Wiki sites and WMF steward
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